17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #16

[gxm]

I *really* do not think that the unlawful act (felony) that is being referenced in that offense (per statute posted above) was supposed to be the alleged beating/attempted killing of GZ. I really think that would be a matter of self-defense, not a matter of killing someone to prevent a felony. Where are our lawyers??

That's what I'm thinking. But once GZ gave his statement and claimed self-defense (or SYG), the report was changed to reflect that. (Pure speculation.)

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

 

[TonyGatto]

This is why I'm wondering, if Trayvon was looking around, could he have been lost. I'm thinking all these condos look alike.

Happens to me all the time when I'm on vacation...trying to find the villa.

 

[Adrienne37]

Doctors recommend waiting a couple of days before being seen with a broken nose. The EMT's may have given Zimmerman the same advice.

Not sure which doctor you have seen regarding a broken nose but I've been a medical transcriptionist for 30+ years and I can tell you that we see hundreds of cases of broken noses that were sustained the very same day in the ERs that I work for. A doctor may advise you to see an otolaryngologist in a couple of days but no ER physician that I've had the pleasure of working with would tell a patient to wait a couple of days to come in.



~jmo~

 

[gxm]

I don't think that was verified. LE saw blood on his face which they assumed was his nose and blood on the back of his head which they thought was a head injury. Could have been GZ's blood but it could also have been TM's. Theie focus was not on GZ's injuries but on TM's who was shot. The EMT would have known once he cleaned the blood away. If the EMT found no injury they wouldn't continue to clean him up, they would just clear him of any injuries. They clean the area where you would have a wound, not his whole head. So we could have been looking at dried blood on that video. I guess we will have to wait and see. It is interesting that they used the word "cleared". jmo

IMO, it had to be before GZ's statement that his head had been slammed into the sidewalk (if he even stated such, we don't know for sure) because it would seem to me that knowing there had been trauma to his head they would take him to the ER just to be safe.

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

 

[LolaMoon08]

I haven't heard anything about the Prosecutor calling the Grand Jury - it would be unusual for her. Please, where is this information coming from?

When someone is called to testify, it does not mean they have been telling the truth, just saying.

http://www.radaronline.com/exclusives/2012/04/trayvon-martin-girlfriend-interviewed-prosecutors

Here's the link from the post I quoted. I said that she must have been telling the truth about being on the phone with Trayvon because they would NOT call her to testify if the phone records didn't match up.

MOO

 

[Dr.Fessel]

The Florida State Attorney's Office has issued a subpoena for Trayvon's girlfriend to appear in front of the grand jury when it's impaneled on April 10.

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[frenchvixen]

Right. My point is there is no "other side" -- hence the term being able to indict a "ham sandwich".

Good evening, TG. I was just about to say that. Once you hear a grand jury has been convened you can bet that you're going down. It's very one-sided.

I have a feeling in my heart that the feds will step in mainly because of the Florida statute (SYG). If the feds step in and feel that GZ violated TM's civil rights then that FL statute goes out the door. I feel that if it is found that GZ uttered the words "F**** Coon" then it's over for him and he will be chaged federally (those are not the only determinants but that will definately put a nail in his coffin).

Remember the Abner Louima case where the cop shoved the plunger in the AA man's bum. That was found to be a violation of his civil rights b/c he attacked him and arrested him based on his race. This cop had a black girlfriend mind you. So, the fact that GZ has black friends or is even a mixed person does not mean a thing.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Happens to me all the time when I'm on vacation...trying to find the villa.

I've walked into other people's homes before. So embarrassing!

 

[LambChop]

Happens to me all the time when I'm on vacation...trying to find the villa.

Is that the one behind George Clooney's?

 

[uvamerica]

Doctors recommend waiting a couple of days before being seen with a broken nose. The EMT's may have given Zimmerman the same advice.

Really ? wait for what ? if your nose is broken, it will show up in an xray immediately. I've never heard of such a thing, do you have a link ?

 

[gxm]

May I ask if you were taken to the hospital after your ordeal?

Absolutely not. I was told I'd be killed if I went to the authorities.

 

[Emeralgem]

The Florida State Attorney's Office has issued a subpoena for Trayvon's girlfriend to appear in front of the grand jury when it's impaneled on April 10.

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So does this mean the SA who was appointed to review the case has NOW decided to let the case go to a Grand Jury? Last I heard I thougt she had stated a Grand Jury might not be necessary..JMHO

 

[LolaMoon08]

Absolutely not. I was told I'd be killed if I went to the authorities.

Oh my! So sorry! :cry:

 

[LambChop]

Not sure which doctor you have seen regarding a broken nose but I've been a medical transcriptionist for 30+ years and I can tell you that we see hundreds of cases of broken noses that were sustained the very same day in the ERs that I work for. A doctor may advise you to see an otolaryngologist in a couple of days but no ER physician that I've had the pleasure of working with would tell a patient to wait a couple of days to come in.



~jmo~

That is what I thought. I'd be getting myself another doctor. jmo

 

[TonyGatto]

Is that the one behind George Clooney's?

They call them villas....but you know...it's a townhouse. I don't think Clooney and I have the same timeshare.

 

[frenchvixen]

When I listen to the tape it's as if Zimmerman is a narrator setting the scene.

...break-ins in neighborhood

...looks like he's up to no good

...or he's on drugs or something

...he looks black

...he was just staring

...he's got his hand in his waistband. And he's a black male.

Last week I was thinking to myself if only GZ had approached TM respectfully and said, "hi, I'm the neighborhood watchman do you live here". Then this would not have happened. Then I realized there is no way he would have approached him that way b/c based on his mindset and his narration to the police TM was the bad guy. It is unconceivable to me how he came to this conclusion. I myself when I first heard GZ's 911 call I thought that TM was indeed the bad guy b/c I started to wonder, "why is he running". Then I read the other half of the story of TM telling his g/f that someone was following him and I realized that he was running b/c he was afraid.

 

[leanaí]

Keep in mind that a broken nose can show no outwardly visible signs of being broken. Also, as I've stated before, I had my head repeatedly slammed into a hard surface and I had no cuts or outward signs of the beating my head had taken, so I know for a fact that one can have their head repeatedly slammed and not show marks or bleeding. My face was a mess but it had received quite a beating too. Still, the painful lumps on my scalp were not really visible. No one would know they were there except me. And yet during the assault I had been in extreme fear that the contents of my skull were going to end up spilled out across the floor.

Would it take a cop car with its flashing lights on as long as mapquest says? I'm not sure.

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

If you can't see it then you must not really be hurt. This is how allot of people think and they don't understand unless it has happened to them.

 

[TonyGatto]

So does this mean the SA who was appointed to review the case has NOW decided to let the case go to a Grand Jury? Last I heard I thougt she had stated a Grand Jury might not be necessary..JMHO

GJ has been set for April 10. At any point she can say -- don't need the grand jury here are the charges. We have to wait and see.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I feel like going through all the threads, one by one, and collecting all the links and just post them all at once.

I do have a question? When we quote a person's post that has the link in it... do we also have to post the link in our post even though the link will show in the post we quoted?

Thanks.

 

[Dr.Fessel]

I've walked into other people's homes before. So embarrassing!

My grandpa got in the wrong car at the store and put his key in it and it worked and was driving away when the owner flagged him down. LOL LOL