17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #21

[Concerned Papa]

I have to agree, and I know that protocols are different from state to state and hospital to hospital, but where I am, if you have bloody lacerations or severe hematomas to the back of your head and a story about having your head hit against concrete, you will have earned yourself a ticket to ride to the hospital in the company of one of our PD's finest, until they are sure that you are not going to convulse, or crash and die on them.

I tend to believe that the story about GZ's head injuries and broken nose have been greatly exaggerated IMO JMHO and stuff.

THAT'S why all we've heard out of Zimmerman and his agents has been shuck and jive talk and false rhetoric.

There were no injuries.

If he had ANYTHING so much as an x ray or doctor's report on a broken nose or injuries to the back of his head, they would have been waving it around every time a camera was pointed in their direction.

IMO, JMO, MOO, etc.

 

[gxm]

As mentioned down thread, he didn't want his neighbors to 'see' his near fatal injuries!

That's very interesting. I've brought up a couple of times that what GZ looked like immediately after the confrontation doesn't interest me anywhere near as much as what he looked like the next morning. That's when the bruising really starts to show up and IMO would be more noticeable. When I was attacked, the bruises lasted for what seemed like forever.

 

[Aedrys]

So is this press conference with Trayvon's parents happening? Any word?

 

[tehcloser]

hmmmmm.........what's going on over there while we are watching here......lmbo.

 

[Sensei]

THAT'S why all we've heard out of Zimmerman and his agents has been shuck and jive talk and false rhetoric.

There were no injuries.

If he had ANYTHING so much as an x ray or doctor's report on a broken nose or injuries to the back of his head, they would have been waving it around every time a camera was pointed in their direction.

IMO, JMO, MOO, etc.

I believe that too Papa, I don't think they would have let the opportunity pass to, at the very least, show some 8X10 glossies of the horrible injuries to his head, and his big purple swollen nose....even if they didn't produce the x rays for inspection.

 

[Adrienne37]

So is this press conference with Trayvon's parents happening? Any word?

HLN says they are will cut away the moment they are there to start speaking.

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

Still waiting. Meanwhile, I've heard the Bourbon report several times... enough already!

 

[rossva]

BBM

I don't think I have heard George Zimmerman "whining" about anything.

It would only be a violation if they took blood without a court order or his permission.

I would however find it disingenuous to refuse permission and then whine when you are suspected of being under the influence of something

The fact is that a test to determine if he was under the influence of ANYTHING not just drugs or any illegal substance, but any other medications including OTC meds should have just been a standard protocol, and apparently they didn't do it.

 

[Concerned Papa]

I would swear that lawyer yesterday said something about grass stains on the bottom of zimmerman's pants. It was strange he never said coat.

IMO, if there had been a beating put on him by Trayvon, there'd be another kind of stain on this pants.

 

[songline]

I am not sure (all I have ever had to deal with is AMAs LOL) that being said, if he were showing signs of a head injury he would have been transported but he was cleared[/U] per Papa's link... so I am thinking all of his field tests were negative.:moo:

He was cleared to leave the scene in the back of the car with the officer which means he did not need emergent treatment. It does not say that he refused treatment or transport but that he was cleared.

BBMI never knew police cars have X-ray machines :waitasec:
But what I do know is: Head injuries can be fatal without a visible injury.
If he said he did not want to go they can’t make him go for further analysis.

 

[LaLaw2000]

I am not sure (all I have ever had to deal with is AMAs LOL) that being said, if he were showing signs of a head injury he would have been transported but he was cleared per Papa's link... so I am thinking all of his field tests were negative.:moo:

He was cleared to leave the scene in the back of the car with the officer which means he did not need emergent treatment. It does not say that he refused treatment or transport but that he was cleared.

When GZ was marched into the PD he was in cuffs. No one knew whether he would go to jail or not. It is almost every jails policy to not accept an injured arrestee without having been treated first. That is mainly why you see LE in an emergency room with the arrestee. They would not be booked in if injured or requiring medical care.

Jails and Police Departments have seperate budgets and medical care has to be rendered before bringing an arrestee in, otherwise the jail has to pay for it and the medical cost would come out of their budget.

This is all true even if it may not seem to be. I was a booking Lieutenant. I will add an IMO because I cannot prove I know this. Guess I could scan my credentials, LOL. I am just a retired Granny now.

MOO's

 

[Adrienne37]

Rev. Al speaking now at the conference. Tracy is there, Sybrina is there as well as Trayvon's brother, Jahvaris

 

[Aedrys]

Someone type what they're saying because some of us can't watch at work, please! Thanks!

 

[Adrienne37]

When GZ was marched into the PD he was in cuffs. No one knew whether he would go to jail or not. It is almost every jails policy to not accept an injured arrestee without having been treated first. That is mainly why you see LE in an emergency room with the arrestee. They would not be booked in if injured or requiring medical care.

Jails and Police Departments have seperate budgets and medical care has to be rendered before bringing an arrestee in, otherwise the jail has to pay for it and the medical cost would come out of their budget.

This is all true even if it may not seem to be. I was a booking Lieutenant. I will add an IMO because I cannot prove I know this. Guess I could scan my credentials, LOL. I am just a retired Granny now.

MOO's

Thank you!! This is what I've been saying for the past 2 weeks.



~jmo~

 

[mck16]

Blah, blah, blah.

 

[gxm]

I don't understand why people keep saying we don't have enough information,enough facts.IMO we have more than enough,more than in most cases.We have 911 calls,we have eye witnesses,we have a dead body !!! The only thing missing is TWO MINUTES.
IMO it doesn't take a genius to determine what happened in those minutes.All I know is IMO if Trayvon attacked GZ in those 2 minutes,if he initiated the physical confrontation it was because HE feared for his life.What other reason could there have been? GZ was following him for no reason,of course he was afraid,if he did attack him it would be his SYG right wouldn't it?

I know that I'm very interested to find out the bullet trajectory, where TM was shot, and the distance the gun was fired at. I want facts, not speculation about barely audible words or whether TM actually went to the store or not. Personally, I need more facts to put my speculation into proper perspective. Right now, I find the information that we have to be hopelessly contradictory, and quite confusing.

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

 

[Aedrys]

Blah, blah, blah.

So I'm guessing that's a transcript of Al Sharpton so far? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[mck16]

So I'm guessing that's a transcript of Al Sharpton so far? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

You got it!!

 

[redkatrampant]

http://www.wesh.com/video/30874270/detail.html

live link

 

[Storm]

BBM

You would think so but that always seems to get brushed off. :waitasec:

And since they didn't do any tox tests on GZ, what is the significance of Trayvon's tox tests?

Say they found pot in his system, that means it proves that he wasn't really walking home from the store? We know that pot stays in your system for a certain period of time, so what will that prove?

JMHO

It would prove he was probably mellowed out and walking home ^i^