17 yo Trayvon Martin Shot to Death by Neighborhood Watch Captain #9

[HiHater]

TM is not as innocent as the media wants people to believe. Why are they showing years old photos of him?

This is a very old argument. They are now showing pics taken of him a few weeks before he died. Guess what? The public is STILL outraged that a child was killed at the hands of a pseudo cop on a power/ego trip. IMO

 

[tlcya]

Nope because Trayvon is the victim, George is the Perp. Apples & Oranges again. You don't attack the victim for their past actions- that's like attacking a rape victim for the clothes she's wearing- and the perp had a propensity for violence- totally relevant. He was trigger happy!

Therein lies the problem. There are those who are supportive of the Self defense theory and under that theory - GZ is their victim, not TM.

 

[iluvmua]

And since he's the sole victim, and wasn't doing anything wrong that night, his past is irrelevant!

and so is GZ's.

 

[Wise Old Owl]

If you google Trayvon Martin nose broke, the only thing that comes up is info about GZ's nose.

IMO the lady misspoke. She has not seen the unreleased autopsy report.

The funeral director mentioned nothing about TM's nose being broke. As a matter of fact, he said no visible injuries to TM's body at all besides the bullet wound.
Wouldn't he have noticed a broken nose.

Also, TM's father IDed him by looking at a crime scene photo. When he looked at his face, would he have noticed a broken nose? He hasn't mentioned it.

Only the hat wearing lady. I wish I could remember her name.

That's Fredrica Wilson - congresswoman out of Miami.

HTH

 

[MaryAnn]

Yes, that is exactly what I believe. I think George Zimmerman is a racist vigilante.

I totally agree with you. If TM had been white GZ wouldn't have even looked his way!!

 

[TonyGatto]

He has a unique position, as the first Black president, and I think he touched on it well. He would have been criticized, had he not addressed the case and ignored the obvious racism. I think we owe BO that respect, and I am finding a new-found respect for him.

And don't forget, he was asked a question by a reporter, not like he addressed the nation from the Oval Office.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

He has a unique position, as the first Black president, and I think he touched on it well. He would have been criticized, had he not addressed the case and ignored the obvious racism. I think we owe BO that respect, and I am finding a new-found respect for him.

BO is just as much white as he is black.

IMO he should not have spoken about his case. He helped push the race card and the political card.

I don't respect him much. Never have.

Maybe that's why I feel the way I do about him saying "TM looked like he could be my son" or whatever he said.

Look = race.

We did not need anymore race issues. The Black Panthers, Jesse J, and Al S. had that already covered.

JMO

 

[LinasK]

No bashing how about fair play???
If TMs past has no relevance.
GZ past has no relevance either.

But IMO character reference lend a view of the people at hand,
Especial since one cant talk.

Nope because Trayvon is the victim, George is the Perp. Apples & Oranges again. You don't attack the victim for their past actions- that's like attacking a rape victim for the clothes she's wearing- and the perp had a propensity for violence- totally relevant. He was trigger happy!

Quoting myself in response.

 

[jaxibear]

No, the page shown is Trayvon's records. The gf called him and shows as an incoming call on 2/26 @ 7:12 - her number is blurred.

Thanks. The wording in the article makes it seem as if he called her, so it was just badly worded then.

 

[Kimberlyd125]

How would you know what she has seen? She's a congresswoman with all the political opportunities right there within a hand's reach. If she's wrong, she should reconsider serving another term. jmo

Did you overlook my IMO?

 

[iluvmua]

I totally agree with you. If TM had been white GZ wouldn't have even looked his way!!

Do you have any proof of that?

 

[LambChop]

He has a unique position, as the first Black president, and I think he touched on it well. He would have been criticized, had he not addressed the case and ignored the obvious racism. I think we owe BO that respect, and I am finding a new-found respect for him.

And you, me, BO, LE, etc. do not want to see any riots break out. Sending a respectful message to the masses to "cool your jets" regardless of how you view this case is a responsible response to this situation. jmo

 

[JeannaT]

Because of the all the collusion going on between the police and DA, and maybe the retired judge dad, I will be suspicious if we are told he had drugs in his system.

I think it's beyond a doubt he had marijuana in his system, but that doesn't mean he was using that night.

Since he had just been suspended for the baggie and paraphernalia, <modsnip> - I don't know how long with a blood test, but it's 21 days with a urine test.

 

[annalia]

TM is not as innocent as the media wants people to believe. Why are they showing years old photos of him?

Here we go again.

Those pictures were not that old. He had JUST turned 17, the Hollister pic was from 2010.

They've even shown pictures from right before his death, fgs.

If this is so suspicious, then why aren't we asking what GZ's family is trying to hide, that picture of him in that tux sure doesn't look like he did in that video? How old was that one?

This is out of hand with accusations against Trayvon's parents and these pictures, especially since they were obviously from all different ages.

JMHO

 

[nursebeeme]

Your trying to make it like GZ gunned down TM simply because he was black.

that very well could be what happened.

:moo:

 

[tehcloser]

Some days......teh just shakes her head in amazement and thinks "OY". Then I eat a candy bar and it's better.

There have been people digging on Tray since day one. They haven't found the "gangsta" kid they were looking for so I doubt they will at this point.

 

[cityslick]

Looked at all of it, and I am still struck by the fact that there is no blood that can be seen on GZ on his shirt, and I am pretty sure there is none on his jacket because if there were unless these cops are complete morons they would be gloved. (most folks want to avoid little things like Hep B and HIV and a few other nasty blood borne pathogens)

Of everything we have learned thus far, this video makes it very difficult for me to consdier that there was a struggle that was so bad GZ feared for his life, and that the shooting was reasonable in response to an attack, since Trayvon smacking him in the face with a bag of skittles does not qualify. IMO JMHO and stuff.

So far (and my mind may change), I think he panicked. I don't think there was intent. If anything he may have wanted to scare him and it got out of control at that point.

 

[songline]

Yes, he is, and that doesn't prevent him from being racist-he made racist slurs on the 911 call to the dispatcher. I have to disagree with you, I believe he was gunning to get a black man, and this was his chance!!

I read and heard that report and I did not hear racial slurs.
the only thing that makes him sound frustrated or angry was
some remark to "They always get away" but no racial anything at all.
NOBODY can point to a racial word, they do surmise that he must have said one.

Do you think that someone who is biracial himself throw out racial slurs?
I know it happens but I did not hear any.

 

[csziggy]

The Sanford kid who was videotaped beating the black homeless guy, Collinson I think his name was, and who wasn't arrested for weeks until there was a huge public outcry and then got a wrist slap, had a judge for a grandfather. Holy run on sentence, Batman! Too tired to fix it. Sorry.

One of the first officers to respond to the Martin crime scene was also one of the officers at that scene:

Anthony Raimondo, first officer in charge of scene, involved in previous cover-up

By Alexis Garrett Stodghill
10:20 AM on 03/22/2012

SANFORD - Sergeant Anthony Raimondo, the patrol officer who was initially in charge of the scene on the night Trayvon Martin was killed, was also involved in an alleged police cover-up in 2010. Raimondo was at the center of a controversy that ensued when Justin Collison, the son of a Sanford police lieutenant and part of a prominent family, punched a homeless black man but was not arrested.

Local news station WFTV broke this story, which revealed that preferential treatment had been given to Collison by police after he attacked and broke the nose of his African-American victim, Sherman Ware.

Raimondo was the patrol sergeant in charge on the night Collison, who is white, was first detained. Raimondo made the decision not to press charges against Collison, which a former Sanford elected official told theGrio was at the behest of his superiors.

Video evidence of Collison punching Ware from behind and driving his face into a pole was posted on YouTube. Despite Sanford police being in possession of this video, no charges were filed against Collison until local news outlets exposed the cover-up.

http://www.thegrio.com/specials/tra...ne-involved-in-previous-cover-up.php#46821243

 

[Kimberlyd125]

When you google Fredrica Wilson nothing about TM's nose comes up.
But she said it on JVM.

Nobody find's that odd.

IMO she misspoke.