# 2 Australia - Jesse Baird, 26, TV presenter and partner Luke Davies, 29. blood located at home, 23 Feb 2024 *arrest*

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Looking into my crystal ball I see all charges being dropped due to mental health issues...
 
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TootsieFootsie said:
Looking into my crystal ball I see all charges being dropped due to mental health issues...
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If this happens, NSW police should better be prepared to explain how they kept employing a person with so severe mental health issues as a policeman. He was a double danger to the public. And if NSW police did not see his mental issues, perhaps, they were not so horrible?
 
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TootsieFootsie said:
So is domestic violence murder a lesser offence than "murder" ?

I think it used to be in the olden days when men "were driven to it" :rolleyes:
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Murder is murder. End of story.
 
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TootsieFootsie said:
Looking into my crystal ball I see all charges being dropped due to mental health issues...
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Just thinking about your comment here Toots and thought the following may or may not be relevant?? But interesting to look at in this context ….


There is an interview with BLC Lawyer in this link …


Interestingly he says “MAY go to trial” and that BLC is long way from entering a plea, at this stage ….




I also noticed the part about a “case conference” in the ABC article …

Today, the court set a date for a case conference next month, before it will return before a magistrate on October 8.

Is it usual to have a case conference between court dates ??? It’s not something I am familiar with …


www.abc.net.au

Former police officer accused of murdering Sydney couple has charges replaced

It was the first time Beau Lamarre-Condon's case has been in court since police last month laid two fresh charges which now allege the murders were domestic violence-related.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au

And this about the USB ….

There was no mention of what was on the drive, however the court has previously been told there was a subpoena related to Corrective Services.

In June, Mr Walford told the media outside court the subpoena was related to "something we want to have a look at in relation to a phone call".

Magistrate Covington today said the department had no objection to access being granted to both parties.

All IMO
 
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www.aihw.gov.au

Domestic homicide

Domestic homicide page on the Australian Institute of Health and Welfare website
www.aihw.gov.au www.aihw.gov.au

What is domestic homicide?​

Domestic homicide refers to the unlawful killing of a person in an incident involving the death of a family member or other person in a domestic relationship, including people who have a current or former intimate relationship.

BBM : I'm struggling to see how the alleged murder of Luke would be classed as "Domestic Murder" ??


I also wonder, if there may be a significant trail of complaints / grievances made by Beau against the NSWPF in the past??
 
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Marg944 said:
ABC’s sketch artists’ impression…..

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Now I’m kinda glad I missed court today…… just Wow!!!!

www.abc.net.au

Former police officer accused of murdering Sydney couple has charges replaced

It was the first time Beau Lamarre-Condon's case has been in court since police last month laid two fresh charges which now allege the murders were domestic violence-related.
www.abc.net.au www.abc.net.au
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This Court sketch looks like caricature :oops:
It actually frightened me.
Phew!
 
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On 2GB Sydney radio this evening, Tiffany Genders (Chief Court Reporter for Nine News Sydney) was interviewed regarding this case in court today. Tiff said that the change from murder to domestic violence murder is only a procedural change, she said the crime holds the exact same punishment.
 
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Marg944 said:
On 2GB Sydney radio this evening, Tiffany Genders (Chief Court Reporter for Nine News Sydney) was interviewed regarding this case in court today. Tiff said that the change from murder to domestic violence murder is only a procedural change, she said the crime holds the exact same punishment.
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But how can Luke be classed as domestic murder if he was unknown to Beau, unless by association etc??

Not that it really matters legally I guess, but if I was Luke's family I wouldn't be impressed that his alleged murder is being classed as a Domestic Murder, which to me, implies that he was some how connected to Beau IMO

Bugger you missed court today :(
 
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Thanks DrSleuth, I was annoyed I got there late but I guess I didn’t miss much.

I agree, Luke’s murder wasn’t domestic related…. He was not in a relationship with the alleged murderer.

I am wondering why there aren’t more charges laid against the alleged murderer. I would have thought there should be charges for misuse of a Police revolver, hiding from Police, concealing 2 bodies…….

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mam544 said:
I think we need a new sketch artist
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I suspect that’s exactly how Beau looks. With his hair shaved and not styled, having lost some weight and not wearing designer clothes, I expect him to look like this. The sketcher slightly exaggerated his prominent traits. Consider that he may have lost hair in jail, too. Plus, his own photos were carefully edited and filtered. Here: the ears and some other traits look the same. His eyes are not twinkling, but I always believed that the “mischief” in his eyes was not natural.
 

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No, it genuinely looks like his head was placed into a medieval stretching contraption.

Australian sketch artists always seem to get a little creative. I wonder how much they get paid or if it's volunteer work?

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Charlot123 said:
I suspect that’s exactly how Beau looks. With his hair shaved and not styled, having lost some weight and not wearing designer clothes, I expect him to look like this. The sketcher slightly exaggerated his prominent traits. Consider that he may have lost hair in jail, too. Plus, his own photos were carefully edited and filtered. Here: the ears and some other traits look the same. His eyes are not twinkling, but I always believed that the “mischief” in his eyes was not natu
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Whatson said:
No, it genuinely looks like his head was placed into a medieval stretching contraption.

Australian sketch artists always seem to get a little creative. I wonder how much they get paid or if it's volunteer work?

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Afaik the sketches are commissioned by news organisations. So yes, the artists are paid.
 
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Whatson said:
No, it genuinely looks like his head was placed into a medieval stretching contraption.

Australian sketch artists always seem to get a little creative. I wonder how much they get paid or if it's volunteer work?

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I see something Modigliani-esque in the style. Intentionally elongated, but unique.
 
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I attended court this morning for this matter.

Lemarre Condon did not appear via AVL. Lemarre Condon’s solicitor, Mr Walford appeared on his behalf and stated that a case conference with the DPP has occurred, and he requested that the matter be extended now to 5th November, 2024, to finalise instructions. The magistrate, Deputy Chief Magistrate T Tsavdaridis, asked what the next listing will be, and Mr Walford stated it will be a Committal. The magistrate stated that LeMarre Condon will appear via AVL at the next hearing and that bail was not requested and is formally refused.
 
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