2007 Church Yearbook Ranks Largest Denominations

[narlacat]

I think the comment might be regarded as one in a long line of comments designed to inflame and antagonize Christians/Catholics on the WS board, despite an awareness that these comments are hurtful and do not contribute to meaningful discussion. There are more diplomatic ways to express opinions. In my opinion, it is the relentless nature of these sorts of comments which make them hateful.

Hateful comments say more about the poster than about the group being targetted.

imo

Ok.

Everthing you said was true, except for the bit not highlighted, I'm really not a hateful person but I understand why you would think that- the tea and biscuit comment was out of line- I apologise.
Apologies also to Maral (can't think of a specific instance but I'm pretty sure there is one) and to DK (too many to mention) and to Eve (this thread)
I will not say one more word to inflame and antagonize.

 

[Maral]

According to the March 2007 edition of St. Anthony Messenger, the U.S. Bishops amended that Canon Law in 1966 to just Lent, but still encouraged people to abstain from meat every Friday.

You're correct, DK, it was in 1966 that the U.S. Bishops said that Catholics are no longer required to abstain from meat on Fridays outside of Lent. But, for the record, they did not amend Canon Law. They don't have the power to amend Canon Law. It is Canon Law 1253 that allowed them to do away with the mandatory abstinence of meat on Fridays of Ordinary Time.

Canon 1253 It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.

 

[LovelyPigeon]

I will not say one more word to inflame and antagonize.

Gotta smile at that My mother used to say that she and my daddy never had a single cross word! (meaning, though, that they'd had several)

 

[Dark Knight]

You're correct, DK, it was in 1966 that the U.S. Bishops said that Catholics are no longer required to abstain from meat on Fridays outside of Lent. But, for the record, they did not amend Canon Law. They don't have the power to amend Canon Law. It is Canon Law 1253 that allowed them to do away with the mandatory abstinence of meat on Fridays of Ordinary Time.

Canon 1253 It is for the conference of bishops to determine more precisely the observance of fast and abstinence and to substitute in whole or in part for fast and abstinence other forms of penance, especially works of charity and exercises of piety.

Thanks for the clarification. I went back to the article and it said they amended the "practice," not the law. My mistake. I thought it was odd they could amend a Canon law, lol!

 

[Dark Knight]

Ok.

Everthing you said was true, except for the bit not highlighted, I'm really not a hateful person but I understand why you would think that- the tea and biscuit comment was out of line- I apologise.
Apologies also to Maral (can't think of a specific instance but I'm pretty sure there is one) and to DK (too many to mention) and to Eve (this thread)
I will not say one more word to inflame and antagonize.

Thank you, Narla! I accept your apology. I apologize for anything not nice I said in return.

 

[Nova]

Something I heard on TV this weekend from gay comedian and ex-Roman Catholic, Bob Smith:

The Church says it doesn't have anything against people being homosexual, as long as they don't practice homosexuality.

Well, I feel the same way.

I don't have anything against people being Roman Catholics, as long as they don't practice Roman Catholicism.

 

[Nova]

Actually, I think Smith's joke is rather witty. No, the two are not precisely analogous, because being Catholic is a choice, but there's still plenty to think about in the comparison.

But more importantly, somebody had to put a stop to the love fest!

Narla and Dark Knight, sitting in a tree
K.I.S.S.I.N.G!

Some of we Left Coasters haven't had lunch yet!

 

[Dark Knight]

But more importantly, somebody had to put a stop to the love fest!

Narla and Dark Knight, sitting in a tree
K.I.S.S.I.N.G!

Some of we Left Coasters haven't had lunch yet!

Ok, you just ruined my dinner.

Oh I could easily slam that analogy, but it would cause a repeat of what has already been said ad nauseum and lead to the thread being locked and TO's given.

 

[Nova]

I could refute that lame joke easily but will abstain, just like you should.

:blushing:

I just got that joke, DK! So sorry. That was very, very funny, indeed!

 

[Nova]

Hey, DK! Is your show streamed over the internet?

 

[eve]

:blushing:

I just got that joke, DK! So sorry. That was very, very funny, indeed!

Both of your jokes were funny, guys :clap: . I came to this thread late today. Thanks for the apology Narla, but I wasn't whacked out of shape over your post, no worries, and I'm sorry if I was snippy.

I'm an Episcopalian, LOL-we're fond of saying we don't have to check our brains at the red door - we're pretty open-minded, not too scary, heck, we were criticized far and wide a couple years ago when we ordained a gay Bishop. I still have my little place in the pew, no big.

Eve

 

[Nova]

Both of your jokes were funny, guys :clap: . I came to this thread late today. Thanks for the apology Narla, but I wasn't whacked out of shape over your post, no worries, and I'm sorry if I was snippy.

I'm an Episcopalian, LOL-we're fond of saying we don't have to check our brains at the red door - we're pretty open-minded, not too scary, heck, we were criticized far and wide a couple years ago when we ordained a gay Bishop. I still have my little place in the pew, no big.

Eve

My partner used to be Episcopalian and would like to get me involved. And I might, but your music always reminds me of the underground society in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Do you remember that film? Bunch of bald mutants in cowls singing discordant hymns praising the atom bomb!

(I'm only comparing the music. I know Episcopalians are not mutants. )

 

[BarnGoddess]

To go slightly, only slightly off topic, I took a little break and stepped out and read a bit of the Rocky Mountain News. Here's an interesting column I thought might interest DK. Blogger, Rocco Palma was in town for a conference. He's a blogger who seems to have inside information from the Vatican.

http://www.rockymountainnews.com/drmn/news_columnists/article/0,1299,DRMN_86_5411911,00.html

His blog is called Whispers in the Loggia

http://whispersintheloggia.blogspot.com/

Thought DK would enjoy the references. I won't indulge in name calling here. I am not Catholic, but Episcopalian. There are similarities, but differences between the two religions. I will say that Evangelical groups that get heavily involved in politics in order to force their views of religion and how we should all be forced by law to adhere to their beliefs absolute have me shivering in fear. That same shivering fear is there when a major religious group begins to gain power by chanting "Death to......." and grows larger in numbers of brainwashed "foot soldiers".

 

[BarnGoddess]

Both of your jokes were funny, guys :clap: . I came to this thread late today. Thanks for the apology Narla, but I wasn't whacked out of shape over your post, no worries, and I'm sorry if I was snippy.

I'm an Episcopalian, LOL-we're fond of saying we don't have to check our brains at the red door - we're pretty open-minded, not too scary, heck, we were criticized far and wide a couple years ago when we ordained a gay Bishop. I still have my little place in the pew, no big.

Eve

Eve, want a couple of more Episcopalian jokes?

One priest we had used to joke and say Whiskeypalians.

Do you know that when 4 Episcopalians get together there's always a fifth?

My uncle used both jokes all the time. He's a retired Episcopal priest.

 

[BarnGoddess]

My partner used to be Episcopalian and would like to get me involved. And I might, but your music always reminds me of the underground society in Beneath the Planet of the Apes. Do you remember that film? Bunch of bald mutants in cowls singing discordant hymns praising the atom bomb!

(I'm only comparing the music. I know Episcopalians are not mutants. )

Gregorian chants. Some churches "sing" parts of the service, others don't. It can be annoying or not, depending. If I'm very tired, it feels that the service is dragging.

 

[Nova]

Gregorian chants. Some churches "sing" parts of the service, others don't. It can be annoying or not, depending. If I'm very tired, it feels that the service is dragging.

I've heard Gregorian chants, in Catholic churches and concert halls. I wouldn't have recognized the music I heard in Episcopalian churches as the same thing, but I take your word that it was. Very high-voiced, discordant and loud, to the accompaniment of a shrill organ.

I'm not saying it was bad (in fact, the "High" Episcopalian Church I sometimes attended in Santa Monica had very good, paid singers), just not fun in the "Give Me That Ol' Time Religion" sense of the music with which I was raised (Disciples of Christ Church (think quasi-Baptist)).

That music makes you want to jump up and denounce sinners or something.

 

[Dark Knight]

Hey, DK! Is your show streamed over the internet?

Nope. We've talked about streaming several times, but the Powers That Be in radio (ASCAP, BMI, FCC, etc) keep making it more and more unfeasible and complicated to do so. It's expensive enough for the right to play music on-air, it's extremely expensive to stream it on-line these days. It just isn't worth it for a smaller market station. They'll get their money one way or another, that's for darn sure. Nothing is free or easy these days in radio.

 

[Nova]

Nope. We've talked about streaming several times, but the Powers That Be in radio (ASCAP, BMI, FCC, etc) keep making it more and more unfeasible and complicated to do so. It's expensive enough for the right to play music on-air, it's extremely expensive to stream it on-line these days. It just isn't worth it for a smaller market station. They'll get their money one way or another, that's for darn sure. Nothing is free or easy these days in radio.

I know exactly what you mean. At the theater where I work, we have to be very careful where we lend our "B-roll." Anything but a news broadcast by a traditionally recognized news producer (i.e., no internet) could cost us a fortune.

If the situation ever changes, DK, do let us know. I love songs about first cousins who wed, cheat and then kill each other, which I assume is most songs aired in the Heartland.

 

[Dark Knight]

I know exactly what you mean. At the theater where I work, we have to be very careful where we lend our "B-roll." Anything but a news broadcast by a traditionally recognized news producer (i.e., no internet) could cost us a fortune.

If the situation every changes, DK, do let us know. I love songs about first cousins who wed, cheat and then kill each other, which I assume is most songs aired in the Heartland.

You're thinking of country music, that's a different format. lol! :crazy:

 

[Nova]

You're thinking of country music, that's a different format. lol! :crazy:

(Please don't tell anyone, DK, 'cause I fooled some folks into thinking I'm sophisticated: John Mellencamp remains the second-best show I ever saw. (Second only to Springsteen. And only Springsteen in Jersey.))