2008.07.15 Caylee allegedly called Casey

[BondJamesBond]

anyone have the link handy to reference Casey's account of the 7/15 call...either the audio the transcript or both. That might help us stay focused on-topic a bit.

 

[wonders]

IMO Caylee expressed her fear while in her grandfather's arms.

I do agree totally that Caylee does look scared in the Great Grandpa video.
I used to work in a Nursing Home and had to bring my toddler with me for a couple of hours and she hated that place and wouldn't go near the residents. IMO Great Grandpa was a stranger of sorts to Caylee and I think she was even hesitant to hug Great Grandpa but I think she does at the encouragement of Cindy. Just my take on the video.

 

[Tulessa]

anyone have the link handy to reference Casey's account of the 7/15 call...either the audio the transcript or both. That might help us stay focused on-topic a bit.

These?

Listen to the first 911 call
http://blogs.discovery.com/criminal_...911orlando.mp3

Listen to the second 911 call
http://investigation.discovery.com/b...Anthony911.mp3

Listen to the third 911 call
http://investigation.discovery.com/b...Anthony911.mp3

 

[BondJamesBond]

These?

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Thanks, Tulessa. Actually I was referring to the account Casey gave of talking to Caylee 7/15. I could be wrong...more often than not I am :bang: ... but thinking it is in one of the interviews at Universal. You know...in Casey's office

 

[Lil Miss Sleuth]

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Thanks, Tulessa. Actually I was referring to the account Casey gave of talking to Caylee 7/15. I could be wrong...more often than not I am :bang: ... but thinking it is in one of the interviews at Universal. You know...in Casey's office

Here you go. At point 5:10 she talks about the phone call.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nig-ITwHAWM&feature=related[/ame]

 

[Tulessa]

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Thanks, Tulessa. Actually I was referring to the account Casey gave of talking to Caylee 7/15. I could be wrong...more often than not I am :bang: ... but thinking it is in one of the interviews at Universal. You know...in Casey's office

Ohhhhhh! Her place of employment? Silly me!:crazy::blushingsmiley:

 

[wenwe4]

For KC, who just in the last sentence admitted she lied, to say in the next breath it was true that her daughter called her around noon the day before they questioned her. Amazing! She went on to explain her story when she figured out the jig was up when Yuri (?) said, "let me ask you this - you haven't seen your daughter in a month" and KC begins to interrupt him. There are cell phone logs that prove there was no "private number" calling her around noon on 7/15.

 

[Intermezzo]

Could this alleged call play into a defense strategy that Caylee was not murdered until after July 15th? This, in addition to the report saying the remains could have been in the woods as late as sometime in July?

LE got the cell phone logs for Casey's phone and determined no phone call was received.

Also, I believe the report you refer to above states late June and not July

 

[sindydee]

I don't disagree, Tweety. IMHO, the most valuable element of "ZFG" is that it gives SA a solid launching point to build on. For example, ladies & gentlemen of the jury, we've established that Ms. Anthony lied. The defense told you that doesn't mean she's guilty of murder. Let's focus now on WHY she lied. What was her motive?

More to come...

Ha Ha. Yes this will be very interesting to hear..............

 

[darnudes]

For the full interview

http://investigation.discovery.com/...anthony_full_coverage/caylee_anthony_911.html

Good place for all the 911 calls and some of the early interviews.

 

[KenoshaKid]

BBM
She was also asked if Caylee was upset about not being able to see her mother...IIRC Casey said No...and then went off into a story involving Cindy.

IMO, a child that has not seen his/her parent in awhile would be sad, and would tell the parent to come get them and that they want to go home and not IMO launch into a happy story.
Curious as to why Casey brought up Caylee speaking of Shoes. Just curious.

BBM

Because it was the first thing that popped into her little bitty brain.

Also interesting in this exchange is her jealousy over Caylee's relationship with CA comes out. "Caylee never misses me. If it had been my mom" or some such.

 

[MomofBoys]

This call is so huge, IMO, because I can think of no scenario where lying about a Caylee call would somehow protect Caylee or keep her safe from those who abducted her/could do her harm. None that would make logical sense to any sane person, at least. KC never really expressed fear that Caylee wasn't alive, just that she was taken. So what was her incentive to lie? It'd been far more believable to say she hadn't heard from Caylee in weeks.

To me the psychological inference is interesting, because it's KC basically yelling "She's not dead! Nope, not dead! I talked to her today!" She basically used that to show LE "See, I didn't report her missing and she's fine!" If she didn't kill Caylee, that is so completely obstructionist and her ability not to come clean at that moment speaks more to her guilt and sociopathic tendencies than anything else in this case, IMO.

 

[mimimama5]

This call is so huge, IMO, because I can think of no scenario where lying about a Caylee call would somehow protect Caylee or keep her safe from those who abducted her/could do her harm. None that would make logical sense to any sane person, at least. KC never really expressed fear that Caylee wasn't alive, just that she was taken. So what was her incentive to lie? It'd been far more believable to say she hadn't heard from Caylee in weeks.

To me the psychological inference is interesting, because it's KC basically yelling "She's not dead! Nope, not dead! I talked to her today!" She basically used that to show LE "See, I didn't report her missing and she's fine!" If she didn't kill Caylee, that is so completely obstructionist and her ability not to come clean at that moment speaks more to her guilt and sociopathic tendencies than anything else in this case, IMO.

momof boys, my thanks button has gone MIA again, but wanted to say that your post gets my potd award! I think you nailed it

 

[autumnlover]

IMO Caylee expressed her fear while in her grandfather's arms.

Absolutely. I completely agree.

 

[BondJamesBond]

Ha Ha. Yes this will be very interesting to hear..............

Not a well-constructed post by any means...still, the path it (Casey's lie 'bout the phone call w/ Caylee 7/15) took me down here: [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=4527450&postcount=334"]Websleuths Crime Sleuthing Community - View Single Post - Legal Q&A for Rhornsby #2[/ame]

 

[RR0004]

Here you go. At point 5:10 she talks about the phone call.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nig-ITwHAWM&feature=related

Gosh...this interview just gets me more and more upset. I hear the smugness in her voice...but very little else.

 

[Tulessa]

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=807kMNkVl0k&feature=related[/ame]

 

[suzanne m]

:banghead:

I could just kiss you, Tweety! :blowkiss: This is such a logical, almost inarguable statement! Why in the world would the worried, distraught mother of a missing 2 year old lie about a phone conversation they had had just the day before? There is, IMO, no other reasonable explanation except that she was trying to hide the fact that the child was dead. Period. I sure hope the SA has thought about this.

I most certainly agree. Also the way she told the dispatcher was like, its not as bad as it sounds cause I just talked to her today. So in other words, no big deal about the 31 days as long as you spoke with her today! Geesh. I really think she actually believes everything she has said.:banghead:

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I just reviewed the 1-2-3 cheese video of Caylee and it is quite telling. Actually, many of you made comments about the videographer not engaging with her, despite her many attempts to engage them. I would assume it is KC videotaping, but who knows. Caylee was definately able to self-regulate, as demonstrated by her talking to herself and coloring. She gave strong disengagement cues, including looking away, freezing, and turning partially away and finally fully away. She also gave strong engagement cues and attempted to please the videographer. It is apparent the family used `1-2-3 cheese as a means to get her to smile for pics and she knew this routine well. She tried on nunmerous occassions to comply with what she thought the person videotaping wanted. When she did not get the response she was expecting, it was confusing for her and she became overstimulated and needed to self calm - thus the disengagement cues. Although this video is quite short and we do not see the interaction between the parent/child - the lack of interaction is equally telling. In the parent/child attachment realm, this type of non-responsiveness is actually built into the assessment (commonly referred to as the 'still face'). The still face allows the assessor to gauge how far the child will go to engage the parent and what happens to the child emotionally when they do not get their needs met in a timely manner. Fear not fellow posters, although this feels terribly uncomfortable and cruel, it happens hundreds of times a day to every child, because parents cannot meet the child's needs 100% of the time, nor should they.

I was wondering about attachment disorders in the anthony family - particularly if casey had one which would explain a lot.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I have not seen videos of this child, except in the nursing home and now the 1-2-3 cheese. I would be very interested in looking at the one on the floor, I have seen only snipits on NG and others but not the video itself.

There is another one of Caylee sitting in a high chair with the same circumstances as the 123 cheese video. The person taking the video says nothing...and I mean NOTHING to Caylee. It's pretty much the same scenario.