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  • #161
Many people who take courses in Law Enforcement etc., or think they want to be a police officer, end up changing their mind once they get on the police force.

It's a whole new world when an officer is a "rookie" cop. They have to learn on the spot with a senior officer. This is when they really find out if they are up for the position as a cop. It is a 12 or 16 week "rookie" position before the "rookies" are able to go out on the streets alone. Many rookies just don't make it.

100 % agree. It takes a certain type of person to deal with police work from the horrible calls-homicide stabbings shootings--to the bloody--car accidents etc and please never forget...the general public hate the police--so it is a very mentally and emotionally chalenging job!!! imgaine for just a minute that everyday you are called names, spit on, fought with, argued with ..it takes its toll
I have always said...everyone hates the police but they are the 1st ones called when you are in trouble
 
  • #162
100 % agree. It takes a certain type of person to deal with police work from the horrible calls-homicide stabbings shootings--to the bloody--car accidents etc and please never forget...the general public hate the police--so it is a very mentally and emotionally chalenging job!!! imgaine for just a minute that everyday you are called names, spit on, fought with, argued with ..it takes its tollI have always said...everyone hates the police but they are the 1st ones called when you are in trouble

Kind of like living on Hopesprins Dr.:eek:OK I'll go back to reading!
 
  • #163
100 % agree. It takes a certain type of person to deal with police work from the horrible calls-homicide stabbings shootings--to the bloody--car accidents etc and please never forget...the general public hate the police--so it is a very mentally and emotionally chalenging job!!! imgaine for just a minute that everyday you are called names, spit on, fought with, argued with ..it takes its toll
I have always said...everyone hates the police but they are the 1st ones called when you are in trouble


Oh, and don't forget the internal politics, after 10 years of dealing with the politics my husband left the police department. He could deal with the police matters it was what was going on within the department that left him discussed so he took early retirement and went into business for himself as a private investigator.
 
  • #164
Many people who take courses in Law Enforcement etc., or think they want to be a police officer, end up changing their mind once they get on the police force.

It's a whole new world when an officer is a "rookie" cop. They have to learn on the spot with a senior officer. This is when they really find out if they are up for the position as a cop. It is a 12 or 16 week "rookie" position before the "rookies" are able to go out on the streets alone. Many rookies just don't make it.

I do agree, Patty, but I think since his resignation happened around the time Caylee's body was disposed of, it's important we do know what happened. Especially since LE is bringing it up while questioning in this case. Don't get me wrong, I do NOT think JG is involved, but it's possible he made a mistake. He loved and trusted kc. Maybe he did something not knowing what he was doing . . . .

I think it's especially interesting he suggests needing a lawyer when evidence mishandling is brought up.

Again, NOT saying he is involved that he knew of
 
  • #165
Evidently LE took care of the questions and they had access to his records at LE. They have cleared the boy so JB needs to back the H3ll off. I just can't see making anybody else suffer from KC and the A's mess. The crap just needs to "STOP". I sure wished the Courts would stop this madness. Maybe they are fixin to do just that. Was hoping that yesterday would bring news of the brakes slamming in Fla---maybe tomorrow we will hear some news.
 
  • #166
I do agree, Patty, but I think since his resignation happened around the time Caylee's body was disposed of, it's important we do know what happened. Especially since LE is bringing it up while questioning in this case. Don't get me wrong, I do NOT think JG is involved, but it's possible he made a mistake. He loved and trusted kc. Maybe he did something not knowing what he was doing . . . .

I think it's especially interesting he suggests needing a lawyer when evidence mishandling is brought up.

Again, NOT saying he is involved that he knew of

If you read the whole statement Jesse gave to LE you would understand the reason he was questioning needing an attorney. LP told the Grunds that during a meeting w/KC's attorney's both Cindy and KC stated that they believe Jesse killed Caylee and this was verified by other's on LP's staff. Now wouldn't anyone want an attorney if they believed LE was headed down that path. Sort of makes you wonder because the A's said Jesse drowned Caylee in the pool and all of a sudden the A's come up with this story about the pool ladder and the gate being open. They were building a case against Jesse for sure.

Another thing that makes you wonder. Cindy (who makes no sense half the time) stated that KC had just borrowed the shovel to remove bamboo roots from the back yard so Caylee would not hurt her feet while she was back there. We now know that Caylee was gone by the time KC borrowed the shovel so why would KC be concerned about bamboo roots when her daughter is missing???? More of CA's crockism. Someone had tried to dig a hole in the backyard. That is why KC borrowed the shovel. She would have buried her daughter in their backyard. "She's close, Mom, I feel it, she is really close." CA does not realize how bad it would have been to have to dig up your own grandchild in your backyard. That is how little regard KC has for her family.
 
  • #167
If you read the whole statement Jesse gave to LE you would understand the reason he was questioning needing an attorney. LP told the Grunds that during a meeting w/KC's attorney's both Cindy and KC stated that they believe Jesse killed Caylee and this was verified by other's on LP's staff. Now wouldn't anyone want an attorney if they believed LE was headed down that path. Sort of makes you wonder because the A's said Jesse drowned Caylee in the pool and all of a sudden the A's come up with this story about the pool ladder and the gate being open. They were building a case against Jesse for sure.

Another thing that makes you wonder. Cindy (who makes no sense half the time) stated that KC had just borrowed the shovel to remove bamboo roots from the back yard so Caylee would not hurt her feet while she was back there. We now know that Caylee was gone by the time KC borrowed the shovel so why would KC be concerned about bamboo roots when her daughter is missing???? More of CA's crockism. Someone had tried to dig a hole in the backyard. That is why KC borrowed the shovel. She would have buried her daughter in their backyard. "She's close, Mom, I feel it, she is really close." CA does not realize how bad it would have been to have to dig up your own grandchild in your backyard. That is how little regard KC has for her family.

Thank you for the clarification. I had read the whole interview, but awhile back. I didn't realize at the time of this interview JG knew of the A's accusations. I was going off LE's concern over JG's answers about evidence handling during his polygraph.

I agree with you about the "bamboo digging" incident. Total BS. kc stole from everyone around her and the only work she did was getting different men in bed. She despised her parents. NO WAY did she just so happen to be helpful and dig up bamboo (that, of course, would be instead of looking for her daughter). Especially since she'd have to go to the extent of having to go to the neighbors to borrow a shovel. AND at a time during which she had "moved out" of her parents house. And backing the car into the garage? What, was she trying to secretely rid of the bamboo? :waitasec:
 
  • #168
If you read the whole statement Jesse gave to LE you would understand the reason he was questioning needing an attorney. LP told the Grunds that during a meeting w/KC's attorney's both Cindy and KC stated that they believe Jesse killed Caylee and this was verified by other's on LP's staff. Now wouldn't anyone want an attorney if they believed LE was headed down that path. Sort of makes you wonder because the A's said Jesse drowned Caylee in the pool and all of a sudden the A's come up with this story about the pool ladder and the gate being open. They were building a case against Jesse for sure.

Another thing that makes you wonder. Cindy (who makes no sense half the time) stated that KC had just borrowed the shovel to remove bamboo roots from the back yard so Caylee would not hurt her feet while she was back there. We now know that Caylee was gone by the time KC borrowed the shovel so why would KC be concerned about bamboo roots when her daughter is missing???? More of CA's crockism. Someone had tried to dig a hole in the backyard. That is why KC borrowed the shovel. She would have buried her daughter in their backyard. "She's close, Mom, I feel it, she is really close." CA does not realize how bad it would have been to have to dig up your own grandchild in your backyard. That is how little regard KC has for her family.
I also think Jesse was already on high alert when he walked into the interview, he had heard via multiple sources that Cindy and Casey were both trying to accuse him of Caylee's murder in attorney meetings with Jose. This interview is in early September, so Cindy and Casey were in Jose's office before that laying out the "Jesse is the one" who killed Caylee scenario. So much for Cindy's, "Caylee is alive and you need to be looking for a child that is walking and talking routine"...she knew early on. Anyway I have drifted here...

I have NO suspicion that Jesse was in any way involved with any part of Caylee's murder...and I think his separation from LE was because it was just not a good fit for him. This is what Richard said in an interview.
 
  • #169
Thank you for the clarification. I had read the whole interview, but awhile back. I didn't realize at the time of this interview JG knew of the A's accusations. I was going off LE's concern over JG's answers about evidence handling during his polygraph.

I agree with you about the "bamboo digging" incident. Total BS. kc stole from everyone around her and the only work she did was getting different men in bed. She despised her parents. NO WAY did she just so happen to be helpful and dig up bamboo (that, of course, would be instead of looking for her daughter). Especially since she'd have to go to the extent of having to go to the neighbors to borrow a shovel. AND at a time during which she had "moved out" of her parents house. And backing the car into the garage? What, was she trying to secretely rid of the bamboo? :waitasec:
It would be interesting to hear from the neighbors as to just how many times they witnessed Casey outside doing "yard work"...cutting the grass, digging up bamboo with a shovel, weeding, etc... :)
 
  • #170
I have NO suspicion that Jesse was in any way involved with any part of Caylee's murder...and I think his separation from LE was because it was just not a good fit for him. This is what Richard said in an interview.

snipped for point.....I can see this not being a good fit ...Orange County would not be an ideal place to start a career as apolice officer....very very busy...i would suggest a new officer get "seasoned" in a small area..quiet lil town or such...not in the middle of Orlando .
 
  • #171
JMO, by the time that interview occurred, I would guess that any alleged anomalies or inconsistencies on JG's poly in regards to evidence had more to do with what I would suspect is an extreme nervous reaction to the fact he and his father had both long realized that KC's sudden visit to his apt to "take a shower" in the early morning may have been an attempt on her part to gain and use dna or other evidence to try to frame him. As were the requests to bring gas to her car. Perhaps KC's initial Imaginanny had a Plan B in the form of JG - OR perhaps she went with the Imaginanny originally because she realized she didn't have hard evidence on JG yet. This could be a chicken and egg thing. Or not.

Originally I thought that in her jail visits that she expressed so much negativity about JG because she didn't want her parents anywhere near him or his family so they could "compare notes" so to speak. RG mentioned in an early interview he had heard things about the Anthonys from KC that would curl your toes; I'm sure she used the same tactics to re-ingratiate herself back into the Anthony family once she moved back home with the baby.

JG also, because she has kept in touch with him over the years, may have been a confidant in other ways; perhaps about things she was doing for money or other unhealthy activities (remember that mysterious trip to the ER). I think he may have known much more about KC that she realized was practical anymore now that she was in serious trouble.

It just amazes me the collateral damage this family of patent liars is willing to create and extend outward simply to draw attention away from the one person that had method, means and motive and has not uttered anything near the truth from the minute the case broke open.

Comparing KC to other "suspects" is an exercise in comparing apples to a moldy orange. It amazes me that JB wastes his defense time even contemplating it. And it makes me angry that the Anthony family would even allow the only boy KC knew who had not only exhibited honorable intentions toward her, but whose family had taken her in for almost a year and dearly loved baby Caylee, to be so callous and self-serving to have even directed LE their way simply on the words of their pathological liar of a daughter.

The time LE has had to waste tracking down false "live" Caylee sightings, the months they have had to waste interviewing and investigating her friends, when, as GA's former LE friend put it "the answer lies with the girl in that room over there" or something of the sort, the fact that KC's acquaintances and friends have had to lawyer up for the mistake of pretty much just knowing her, simply ASTOUNDS me.

Most people I know would try and love and support or forgive a daughter who accidentally killed her child. Maybe some would even try to love and support or forgive them if it was premeditated murder. But everyone I've ever heard talk about that would say they would have stopped short of obstruction of justice, or helping their daughter lie or lead LE on wild goose chases and CERTAINLY would not have colluded with her lame attempts to frame innocent people. It's one thing to be in denial after the fact (and let's not forget both CA and GA stated their worries she was either a sociopath or an unfit mother many times and to witnesses). And many of us believe they may be guilty of purposefully obstructing justice with their crime-scene cleaning and uncooperative attitude during the investigation. But what literally sends me over the edge is how willing they have been to point fingers and twice victimize people who had already suffered from their daughter's lying, stealing and evil behavior.

I'm sorry, I just am so perplexed at any attempt made to try and fit her poor, obviously ignorant, or perhaps naive friends or acquaintances into suspects of any sort when it is just so clear that every piece of legitimate logic or evidence points nowhere else but to one of the three inhabitants of the house on Hopespring Drive - two of which, despite what we think of their characters had no reason whatsoever to kill Caylee.

I just hope this lame and pathetic ruse, if used by the defense at trial, disgusts the jury members as much as it disgusts me.
 
  • #172
It would be interesting to hear from the neighbors as to just how many times they witnessed Casey outside doing "yard work"...cutting the grass, digging up bamboo with a shovel, weeding, etc... :)

I'd bet that the neighbor's, Joyce and Bailey. would have some "colorful" comment's that we'd all enjoy!!

I particularly loved his quip about polling the neighbor's for a new title for CA...'bout fell out of my chair laughin' so hard...

To stay on topic (my bad) I support Jesse protecting himself from these two vicious women and their evil scheming minion's.
 
  • #173
Cecy-I bow to you!!:bow::bow: That was an amazing post!! I can add nothing-you said it all so well!! :blowkiss:
 
  • #174
Oh, and don't forget the internal politics, after 10 years of dealing with the politics my husband left the police department. He could deal with the police matters it was what was going on within the department that left him discussed so he took early retirement and went into business for himself as a private investigator.

ITA Lambchop I was just trying to play nice. PD's are worse than 8th grade at Mayberry High...So when JG resigned "it was not for him" I can agree with him 100%...IMO this is not a RED flag as some may want us to think
 
  • #175
Yes, Cece I thoroughly enjoyed your post. So many times I click on the "thanks" option at the bottom of the posts, but while reading your post I was literally saying to myself "Thank YOU", over and over again !
 
  • #176
I do agree, Patty, but I think since his resignation happened around the time Caylee's body was disposed of, it's important we do know what happened. Especially since LE is bringing it up while questioning in this case. Don't get me wrong, I do NOT think JG is involved, but it's possible he made a mistake. He loved and trusted kc. Maybe he did something not knowing what he was doing . . . .

I think it's especially interesting he suggests needing a lawyer when evidence mishandling is brought up.

Again, NOT saying he is involved that he knew of

The only mistake Jesse made is knowing Casey. Jesse is not a "person of interest" nor is he a "suspect."
 
  • #177
The fact that it came from Casey's own mouth to "stay away" and "don't trust him" (in so many words) leads me to believe Jesse's in line for sainthood. The only thing he may be guilty of is holding on to the belief that someone he truly cared for, once upon a time, hurt/killed someone he felt blessed to have had in his life- Caylee. This could not have been an easy thing for him to wrap his brain around...especially early on. If there were inconsistencies in his version of events, it doesn't surprise me. He was no doubt hoping beyond hope that Casey could NOT be involved. JMO
 
  • #178
Cecybeans - I'm so glad you brought up the shower thing in the middle of the discussion about JG's polygraph and such. I had not thought about the possibility that LE may have been referring to that, maybe trying to suggest JG knew kc was trying to rid of evidence.

I also think kc's warnings to stay away from JG is because he was the only person who truly knew her and possibly knew something that could be negative about her.
 
  • #179
Cecybeans - I'm so glad you brought up the shower thing in the middle of the discussion about JG's polygraph and such. I had not thought about the possibility that LE may have been referring to that, maybe trying to suggest JG knew kc was trying to rid of evidence.

I also think kc's warnings to stay away from JG is because he was the only person who truly knew her and possibly knew something that could be negative about her.
I wonder how Lee knew they (JG and Casey) were still seeing each other off and on?
 
  • #180
I wonder how Lee knew they (JG and Casey) were still seeing each other off and on?
I remember hearing that he had some of Casey's phone records early on in the case. I also remember him saying that they each, Casey and Jesse, were saying the other person was the one calling them, but when you look at the phone records it's pretty evenly distributed.
 
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