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  • #201
I also think Jesse was already on high alert when he walked into the interview, he had heard via multiple sources that Cindy and Casey were both trying to accuse him of Caylee's murder in attorney meetings with Jose. This interview is in early September, so Cindy and Casey were in Jose's office before that laying out the "Jesse is the one" who killed Caylee scenario. So much for Cindy's, "Caylee is alive and you need to be looking for a child that is walking and talking routine"...she knew early on. Anyway I have drifted here...

I have NO suspicion that Jesse was in any way involved with any part of Caylee's murder...and I think his separation from LE was because it was just not a good fit for him. This is what Richard said in an interview.

And G@D forbid RG lie to protect HIS son......
 
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  • #203
Here's a new one:

Why DID LE ask JG for 3rd interview/poly? Amy didn't have one...AL didn't have one.....others didn't....SO why Jesse????
 
  • #204
Bold by me:

Most rookie cops are just acedemy graduates 12-15 weeks course. JG had 4 YEARS OF COLLEGE course in CRIMMINOLOGY!!! You don't just walk away from a Bachelor Of Science Degree!!! Most people don't, not that soon anyway. Not to mention that the other officers make it out to be a BAD subject for JG! Not me....them!!!

That is a pretty sweeping generalization. Do you have any facts to back that up? Working as a cop is not for everyone, and you basically don't know what it is like until you are out there on streets.

I'm not sure where he is working now, but a criminology degree can be useful in other lines of work. He may just have realized to being a cop wasn't for him.
 
  • #205
Hi MAMA. Are you saying that you think that KC was getting instructions from one of the other A's prior to July 15?

The way they have acted, I wouldn't be surprised. That would be way weird and we should be looking for another Sociopath in the family tree.

I sure hope the whole truth comes out some day.

Hi---yes, that is what I was saying but then Beans and I talked about this today and she has me back on the fence about it right now---so who knows when that "script" started and who was in charge of it. maybe KC started and CA took over later. Maybe CA started it and KC didn't follow it. We still don't know if there were any text that were with held. Right? I just wouldn't put nuttin past any of the A's.
 
  • #206
And what exactly would that have to do with him leaving the force? Just because your girlfriend/fiance' is sleeping around, one doesn't quit thier job/ resign. Not after 4+ yrs of college= BS of Science in Criminology.

If one is embarrassed enough then one might.
 
  • #207
I know its been understood that KC is a sociopath but I was recently
reading a book and there was an article telling a Psychopath's story of
a women, at her mother's funeral, met a guy who she fell instantly in
love with but never got his name or number or anything about him.
A few days later, she killed her sister because she hoped the guy she liked would appear at the funeral.

I immediately thought of KC and how much she fit that story. Anyone
who would lie and mislead or not ask for help with the lose of that beautiful
child with hopes of going on with her life and current love sure fits the
mold of a Psychopath to me.
 
  • #208
Bold by me:

Most rookie cops are just acedemy graduates 12-15 weeks course. JG had 4 YEARS OF COLLEGE course in CRIMMINOLOGY!!! You don't just walk away from a Bachelor Of Science Degree!!! Most people don't, not that soon anyway. Not to mention that the other officers make it out to be a BAD subject for JG! Not me....them!!!

I don't believe that Patty G was saying that rookie cops have merely taken a 12-15 week course in LE - she was saying that it is usually a 12-15 week period of "internship" with a senior officer before they are allowed to hit the streets themselves. Every state is different in terms of the amount of class course education required to be a cop - some allow associate degrees that are more specialized and may give credit for other experience (particularly if the applicant has served in the military), and some require a BS with Criminology as a major or minor before actual police training begins. There are many ways to use a degree in Criminology besides being a police officer, and perhaps Jesse realized once he was actually on the job that he would rather go into another avenue in which that degree would equally serve. (And let's not get started on the number of parents in America who have paid for a degree only to have their child either have changed their major five times or decide that the field just wasn't what they thought it would be - that's too endemic in our society to be of any specific value here).

I'm perplexed by this sudden fascination, primarily driven by the defendant and her team or sympathizers, with being suspicious or attempting to construct what amounts to a character assassination about a former fiance of KC's who, unlike KC herself, has no reputation of pathological lying, stealing from family and friends, acting wild, been observed abusing illegal substances, promiscuity, experiencing extremely dysfunctional domestic relationships, etc. In fact, of all of the people we've "met" from this girl's past, he seems to have had the most caring, honorable intentions of any of them, even offering to marry her after he found out that she lied about him being the father of Caylee. In addition, the fact that his family also opened their home and hearts to KC and little Caylee (until KC apparently decided their rules or expectations of her as a mother were inconvenient and returned home), also makes me think JG and his entire family are just very, very low on the list of potential, REASONABLE suspects here.

I am sure that every single person who knew or spent time with KC last year feels doubly betrayed by her - not only for how she lied to and manipulated them about what was really going on in her life, but for the fact that she and her family have been so eager to deflect blame in any direction but themselves that they have all had to spend an inordinate amount of time and money testifying and paying for legal representation.

It strikes me as strange that many people who have continually reminded us that KC is presumed innocent until proven guilty (which of course applies only to the courtroom), seem to have almost eagerly abandoned the same principle when analyzing her friends and acquaintances.

If we want to start looking at possible suspects (other than the only obvious one), then lets at least look at some of the shadier acquaintances she knew or has had connections with since Caylee was born and stop examining the people who are already victims of KC's "diabolical" manipulations.
 
  • #209
Bold by me:

Most rookie cops are just acedemy graduates 12-15 weeks course. JG had 4 YEARS OF COLLEGE course in CRIMMINOLOGY!!! You don't just walk away from a Bachelor Of Science Degree!!! Most people don't, not that soon anyway. Not to mention that the other officers make it out to be a BAD subject for JG! Not me....them!!!

Going to school and getting a degree is not the same as "walking the beat." What you learn in school or at the Academy may prepare you for the real world of being a cop, however it is a totally different story when you are out on the street facing the criminals.

Same with doctors going to Med School. They first learn out of books until the real world of being a "intern" at a hospital. Some make it and some don't.
 
  • #210
Here's a new one:

Why DID LE ask JG for 3rd interview/poly? Amy didn't have one...AL didn't have one.....others didn't....SO why Jesse????

Where did you read Jesse had 3 polygraphs?

Jesse had many interviews as well as Tony having many interviews as well as going undercover for LE.
 
  • #211
Going to school and getting a degree is not the same as "walking the beat." What you learn in school or at the Academy may prepare you for the real world of being a cop, however it is a totally different story when you are out on the street facing the criminals.

Same with doctors going to Med School. They first learn out of books until the real world of being a "intern" at a hospital. Some make it and some don't.

So true, Patty G! I had a friend a few years ago whose fiance was out of college, did the academy training, and was ready to be a LEO. He was very excited, had wanted this since he was a little boy. His second week as a rookie working with another LEO, they received a call about an elderly neighbor who wasn't answering his door. They arrived on scene, made entrance, and found the elderly gentleman deceased. He had been dead for several days, and the sight and smells of the place made this young man sick and he came very close to walking away from it. He took a week or two to decide whether this was for him, and decided, much at the urging of my friend I'm sure, to stick it out. My point being here that when someone decides they want to be an LEO it is one thing. But, actually becoming one and then doing what they do and seeing what they see every single day is quite something else. I would bet that there are many people who go through the training and schooling to join the force only to find that they can't actually stomach the real world of it. JMO.
 
  • #212
Hi---yes, that is what I was saying but then Beans and I talked about this today and she has me back on the fence about it right now---so who knows when that "script" started and who was in charge of it. maybe KC started and CA took over later. Maybe CA started it and KC didn't follow it. We still don't know if there were any text that were with held. Right? I just wouldn't put nuttin past any of the A's.

Gotta have all the facts for sure . . . . . I so appreciate an open mind. :)
 
  • #213
And G@D forbid RG lie to protect HIS son......
I have no reason to doubt anything Richard or Jesse says, they do not have a history of spreading "mistruths". Now the A's not only have a history, but it is a pattern, if their lips are moving... !
 
  • #214
hi there, when i first read jesse g interview, my gut feeling was that he knew what happened, not that he had any part in it, but just the way he threw out there that it must have been an accident with the pool and some other scenarios IMO
 
  • #215
hi there, when i first read jesse g interview, my gut feeling was that he knew what happened, not that he had any part in it, but just the way he threw out there that it must have been an accident with the pool and some other scenarios IMO

I remember watching an interview with him on NG.It did seem as though he knew a lot.Then the posters here reminded me that at the time of the interview the public [and therefore Jessie] had been told about the cadaver dog hits and the pool steps being left out.
It seems no matter how many times we vere off in a different direction,we always come back to KC .When you put everything we know together nothing else makes sense IMO.
 
  • #216
I can see JG being thown under the bus!​

"The defense team revealed openly they would be pointing the finger at Jesse Grund. They are in possession of a first birthday card Jesse wrote to Caylee that they plan to use as the foundation of such an allegation."​

(Page won't link. Google up Blink on Crime)
 
  • #217
bumping up
 
  • #218
Now that Jesse's complete history with LE has been revealed, it sheds a new light on why Jesse decided to resign from the police force. Let's move forward based on what has been disclosed in the document dump.
 
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I don't really understand why there's bad blood between his family and Casey's. According to Lee Casey told her parents she was trying to cut off a relationship with him and he was dangerous, and he told HIS parents Casey was the one still into him, but they had a very close, long term relationship on both sides?

Sociopathic (well, really, just Axis:II in general) "splitting."

That's why KC told her parents to stay away from JG. So she wouldn't get caught.
 
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