2008.07.24 George Anthony Interview

[HeSaidSheSaid]

My heart broke for George while reading this interview. I cried the whole time. He's telling them that he "knows" his granddaughter is dead, without actually "saying" it. When the tip came in at the end of the interview, and GA needs to leave to go puke...WOW! Again, another heart breaking moment. He mentioned first off in the interview that he was running on fumes and could use some water, so I can imagine that's all he was able to vomit, at that point.

I know that tons of folks vilify Cindy, and I agree, she's no saint, but this man is trying to keep it together and his family together, knowing full well they both realize their granddaughter is never coming home. How the hell you process that to the point that you're able to truly function normally? I don't believe that George, Cindy, or Lee will ever be able to be whole again, ever. Casey, on the other hand, will be "fine."

Other than than the fact Caylee is no longer "with us," I think this is the family's biggest fear. What parent can process that the child they raised is a sociopath and was responsible for the death of her own child, shows no remorse, and has done nothing to aid in the locating/recovery of Caylee.

Casey is a parent's worst nightmare. Yet they still love her. She's their daughter/sister. I don't agree, but I get it.

 

[nancy botwin]

My heart broke for George while reading this interview. I cried the whole time. He's telling them that he "knows" his granddaughter is dead, without actually "saying" it. When the tip came in at the end of the interview, and GA needs to leave to go puke...WOW! Again, another heart breaking moment. He mentioned first off in the interview that he was running on fumes and could use some water, so I can imagine that's all he was able to vomit, at that point.

I know that tons of folks vilify Cindy, and I agree, she's no saint, but this man is trying to keep it together and his family together, knowing full well they both realize their granddaughter is never coming home. How the hell you process that to the point that you're able to truly function normally? I don't believe that George, Cindy, or Lee will ever be able to be whole again, ever. Casey, on the other hand, will be "fine."

Other than than the fact Caylee is no longer "with us," I think this is the family's biggest fear. What parent can process that the child they raised is a sociopath and was responsible for the death of her own child, shows no remorse, and has done nothing to aid in the locating/recovery of Caylee.

Casey is a parent's worst nightmare. Yet they still love her. She's their daughter/sister. I don't agree, but I get it.

I totally agree! Very well put.
I haven't gotten to the end because I'm afraid of the part where he leaves to be sick. I hate what Casey has put these people through.
I feel so sad for George-- he tends to go on these like conversational tangents like on page 55-- when he starts talking about being jealous of his worker's comp attorney visiting Cindy, and breeding cocker spaniels, and then his divorce and moving away to clear his head... George needs a friend! Poor guy.

 

[ellieit]

here is a pic of his car, its right after casey made that 911 cal about the protestors. he drives off in a huff
http://www.myfoxorlando.com/myfox/MyFox/pages/sidebar_video.jsp?contentId=7461191&version=1&locale=EN-US

I kinda think that's the day he found out that "his" check was not in the mail!

 

[karenz]

I think CA's koolaid made GA sick at the end of the interview.

I totally feel for this man. He reminds me of my father. He is in a no-win situation. I think we should pray for some peace for this man.

Then again, at some point, he should put on his big-boy pants and take a stand in Caylee's name.

I waiver between those two thoughts, depending on the day.

 

[ellieit]

I have to agree that the GA interview was very riveting and emotional. It seems clear now why GA was called as a witness as the GJ proceedings. I think anyone would have to say that this is pretty powerful evidence and you have to remember he also has the experience of LE and understands the evidence.

It is also clear where the story of the Pizza came from with Cindy, he mentions that when he brought the car back Cindy says JC what died then asked… “it’s the pizza right George” and he tells her yes as he did not have the heart to say it was most likely Caylee.

It also explains GA statement of “the dead body in the car was not my granddaughters” George knows for a fact that there was a dead body in the trunk, but was not ready for Cindy to know for fear of how she would react.

GA also mentions that the only one that could get KC to talk was there friend the Minister, Seems obvious now to me why he went to visit KC and did he in fact get her to talk and now we have the leaked documents of what possibly happened to Caylee.

The Divorce - separated from issues with Daughter. Was it financial or was it the POOR decision in thinking KC should be a mother? Did GA highly disagree with CA on KC having a child? Knowing she had issues even back then?

Finally I now understand why GA was out starring into the woods ….can you only imagine having to drive that car home with that smell. It was raining and hot! Locked up in that car and the thoughts that are going through your mind. He will never get that smell out of his mind. It was clear that GA had No one to turn to get these things off his mind and turned to LE. He could not even turn to his own son and wanted that to be covered up that he was even there. (Poor GA when Cindy got a hold of this info)
I am also sure that GA told Cindy that he was just looking for a place to park the tent as again to not upset her. And Cindy then ran with that to KB.

I also now believe this is why we do not see Lee, Lee now has information that Caylee is no longer with us and the evidence points to his sister. He also is caught in the middle with his mother and the truth. So it’s just easier to avoid the press and the mess.

This whole thing is sad and pathetic and a pray that this child is recovered this week end and this all be put to rest!

 

[Celt1997]

It is also clear where the story of the Pizza came from with Cindy, he mentions that when he brought the car back Cindy says JC what died then asked… “it’s the pizza right George” and he tells her yes as he did not have the heart to say it was most likely Caylee.

Respectfully snipped.

You can almost see this conversation in your head. It seems like it is straight out of the movies. CA's panicked face, her voice cracking as she looks for confirmation that it is the pizza. I can imagine GA not even looking at her, perhaps with his eyes closed, sighing, then forcing himself to say, "Yes, it's the pizza."

As so many have said before, this whole thing is sad in a way I've never seen before.

 

[shgrbkr]

I've always felt that GA was the main one in the whole family who had his heart closest to the surface. Yes, he knows. He's always known. I feel sad inside that this man, who is obviously a good person, has to be tormented with KC lies and then having to live a lie in public on behalf of his wife. Maybe some time away from Cindy and the lot of them would do him some good.

 

[ellieit]

Respectfully snipped.

You can almost see this conversation in your head. It seems like it is straight out of the movies. CA's panicked face, her voice cracking as she looks for confirmation that it is the pizza. I can imagine GA not even looking at her, perhaps with his eyes closed, sighing, then forcing himself to say, "Yes, it's the pizza."

As so many have said before, this whole thing is sad in a way I've never seen before.

Honestly, I did not feel like I was reading a LE interview I felt like I was reading a novel.....Very sad!

 

[Nana46]

Honestly, I did not feel like I was reading a LE interview I felt like I was reading a novel.....Very sad!

Me too!!! He just rambles and goes on and on with lots of information kinda like KC.......I am really torn between what he accepts and what he does not.....If he really knows and accepts the fact she is gone, then he needs to try to help CA deal with this..it has gone on long enough.

 

[Pegster57]

My heart breaks for George. How will he ever go on with his life?
He has not only lost his little sunshine, but has to wonder for the rest of his life how she died and whether it was an accident. George will be in my prayers every day. I hope if they find Caylee's body it will give him the closure he needs to face the future without her.

 

[yolorado]

My heart breaks for George. How will he ever go on with his life?
He has not only lost his little sunshine, but has to wonder for the rest of his life how she died and whether it was an accident. George will be in my prayers every day. I hope if they find Caylee's body it will give him the closure he needs to face the future without her.

The only hope for him is to stand up, to face the truth and to chose to believe and live it, not because it's pleasant, not because it will make him feel better or ever make him whole again, not because it will "save his family" because that might now be impossible, not because it will make anything better, but because the truth is real and right and in the end it is all we have, because fantansy can't overpower reality, and because living a lie will ultimately destroy him as well as his family because it will disconnect them from real life and real possibility and will not bring justice for the innocent and helpless, for Caylee, which is important to the universe and should be important to her grandfather and her other family members. He's trying to do what's right and real by telling the truth in court which is admirable and could lead to some degree of healing, however, I fear that in many other important ways, George has chosen to hide in lies and dwell fantasy, as did KC. If that is true, I fear for him greatly.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I guess I'll post this here since GA's interview touches on the subject of the pool and ladder in the A's backyard.

I don't know if I think that Caylee drowned in the pool, so much as I believe KC tried to wash off the body and/or wash herself off after moving the body from say the sandbox or playhouse into her trunk.

 

[kiki the parrot]

My heart broke for George while reading this interview. I cried the whole time. He's telling them that he "knows" his granddaughter is dead, without actually "saying" it. When the tip came in at the end of the interview, and GA needs to leave to go puke...WOW! Again, another heart breaking moment. He mentioned first off in the interview that he was running on fumes and could use some water, so I can imagine that's all he was able to vomit, at that point.

I know that tons of folks vilify Cindy, and I agree, she's no saint, but this man is trying to keep it together and his family together, knowing full well they both realize their granddaughter is never coming home. How the hell you process that to the point that you're able to truly function normally? I don't believe that George, Cindy, or Lee will ever be able to be whole again, ever. Casey, on the other hand, will be "fine."

Other than than the fact Caylee is no longer "with us," I think this is the family's biggest fear. What parent can process that the child they raised is a sociopath and was responsible for the death of her own child, shows no remorse, and has done nothing to aid in the locating/recovery of Caylee.

Casey is a parent's worst nightmare. Yet they still love her. She's their daughter/sister. I don't agree, but I get it.

Some suffering is perpetrated randomly, due to circumstances over which we have had no control and for which we bear no responsibility. Other suffering is at times and to varying degrees "reaping" or the result of our own misguided choices--ranging from wickedness, to selfishness, to foolishness and simply lack of good judgment and wisdom (skills for living). Which brings me to our case in point CA: lenient and excusing when she most needed to act like a parent or be firm or tough... likewise harsh, unrelenting or demanding when understanding was called for or control most needed to be relinquished. So now we see the results, or "fruit," of 22 years of enablement, entitlement, learned deceit and manipulation. Yes my heart goes out to CA, I can not imagine living this nightmare. At the same time it has been hard for me to perceive her solely as a victim though as if she played no role (like what, time just started six months ago and the previous 22 years had no bearing, connection or link to where we are today...?) I mean honestly, to listen to CA, KC is nothing more than a blameless victim either, but this blameshifting and victimhood needs to stop. As I (and others) have said, if we're not willing to be part of the solution, we are a huge part of the problem. She deserves empathy insofar as I'm sure she never imagined that the cost of all that controlling, enablement etc would be so high, but hopefully at the same time we need to ALL (including, one day, CA herself) really "get" how we got here. We do not yet know whether this may still be a tragic case of negligence (in which case KC appears to likely suffer at the least from narcissistic personality disorder eg), but for all those of you who believe she is a true, coldblooded sociopath, most mental health experts have reached a widely shared conclusion that sociopaths are NOTin fact born this way but rather to the contrary have a wealth of research and clinical evidence to prove this is instead largely determined by parenting extremes during childhood. JMO

"The fact that abnormal physical changes have been found in the brains of sociopaths does not mean that they were born this way. Things like not having a father during pre-adolescence or of being raised by non-loving parents or foster parents can cause a re-organization of brain functions and structural changes that are evident in adulthood.

The lack of loving parents has been shown to have sociopathic consequences in primate studies. Further, these characteristics appear to be transmitted from one generation to another, as sociopaths lack the capacity to love their own offspring...

The main problem seems to be in the process of parenting itself. We teach many things in our schools: carpentry, housekeeping and cooking, computer skills... These are all great for future employment. But what do we teach about being a good parent? Perhaps a mandatory curriculum in our schools should include exposure to the benefits of loving and caring parental skills. This type of exposure to "parental psychology" might prevent future sociopaths and it also might alter budding sociopaths before their neurological hardware becomes hardwired for a life of emotionless pain." ~Dr. K. Dillard


http://www.viewzone.com/sociopath.html

 

[Bev]

Excellent post, Kiki. Our personalities are a mix of nature and nurture, not one or the other.

 

[Chezhire]

SNIPPED: "... I now understand why GA was out starring into the woods ….can you only imagine having to drive that car home with that smell. It was raining and hot! Locked up in that car and the thoughts that are going through your mind. He will never get that smell out of his mind. ..."

And it was his beloved granddaughter, Caylee, whom he will never get to love on or hold again. This is what really breaks my heart.

 

[AlwaysShocked]

I too was struck by the fact that George did not even know that Caylee was missing but immediately thought her body might be in the trunk of the car at the tow yard. Not the bodies of Casey AND Caylee, mind you, only the body of Caylee.

Something is still not adding up here to me. Plus George's known behaviors and statements SINCE this interview have been quite bizarre in light of what he says during the interview.

With both Casey and Caylee missing, I could see him smelling the death smell and fearing both of them were in the trunk - but what would the reasoning be for him to think it was ONLY Caylee's body in the trunk?

 

[SeriouslySearching]

Murt just had his camera at the spot where GA was and looks like a busy traffic area to me. I would guess GA really was looking for a place for the billboard. (Interesting note tho...Tim M. and several others including some from OCSO went back into the woods there...but soon left.)

 

[SeriouslySearching]

I too was struck by the fact that George did not even know that Caylee was missing but immediately thought her body might be in the trunk of the car at the tow yard. Not the bodies of Casey AND Caylee, mind you, only the body of Caylee.

Something is still not adding up here to me. Plus George's known behaviors and statements SINCE this interview have been quite bizarre in light of what he says during the interview.

With both Casey and Caylee missing, I could see him smelling the death smell and fearing both of them were in the trunk - but what would the reasoning be for him to think it was ONLY Caylee's body in the trunk?

For the same reason he brought a full gas can perhaps?! We don't know the exact answer for this either.

 

[chris1990]

I too was struck by the fact that George did not even know that Caylee was missing but immediately thought her body might be in the trunk of the car at the tow yard. Not the bodies of Casey AND Caylee, mind you, only the body of Caylee.

Something is still not adding up here to me. Plus George's known behaviors and statements SINCE this interview have been quite bizarre in light of what he says during the interview.

With both Casey and Caylee missing, I could see him smelling the death smell and fearing both of them were in the trunk - but what would the reasoning be for him to think it was ONLY Caylee's body in the trunk?

i think at the time GA was more worried about Caylee being away with KC for the past 31 days and they had no contact with Caylee at all. She was not offically missing yet but she had been gone for so long and KC was avoiding them.

 

[ellieit]

And it was his beloved granddaughter, Caylee, whom he will never get to love on or hold again. This is what really breaks my heart.

It had to be so Horrific I can not even imagine.....I hope that GA is strong enough to pull through this he did mention in a video last week that he tried to commit suicide.