2008.07.25 Discuss Jail Visit with George & Cindy

[Sammiejam]

I think the part where KC says to CA " Yes, MOM. We are EXACTLY alike" was very telling.

She was indirectly telling CA that she (CA) is a cruel, heartless, souless waste. KC knows she is an evil babykiller and she is clearly saying "Yes MommyDearest, we are IDENTICAL."

 

[Mysticj]

So she has been talking to the therapist daily in jail,but,oh,she couldn't open up.....I wonder why

Because therapy is about being HONEST with yourself ans she can't and is not ready to do that at all..

 

[madeleine]

She's a very bad liar......I don't think the A's believe her either....no way does George buy her cr@p,maybe Cindy,I am not sure... IMO

 

[bobodedoo]

CAUGHT THIS .. when asked by Cindy if Charlotte is a place to look, KC says that "Zannis" .... not one Zanni, but PLURAL ZANNI.. have roots there.

 

[aeli2468]

I think the part where KC says to CA " Yes, MOM. We are EXACTLY alike" was very telling.

She was indirectly telling CA that she (CA) is a cruel, heartless, souless waste. KC knows she is an evil babykiller and she is clearly saying "Yes MommyDearest, we are IDENTICAL."

That is TOTALLY how I took that as well. As if she is saying, 'you are so right mom, we are both horrible people'.

 

[bobodedoo]

How can she be "last on her own list" when the first thing that comes out of her mouth to GA is that she "looks like sh!!".

 

[aeli2468]

One thing that I haven't seen anyone mention, what is up with the whole 'menu' thing CA and KC talked about for a few minutes. It sounded like she wrote a menu plan on a piece of paper for her to start working out and get healthier. But then KC mentioned that JB has asked her about it 3-4 times as well.

Anyone want to speculate why this is important? Maybe bc there was no caylee-friendly food on it, so it might imply she wasn't around at a certain point. Just trying to figure it out.

Also, when KC was talking about the menu, she mentioned it was health food, like bagels and eggs and cream cheese. CA cuts in and says 'Caylee liked all those things too', and then KC has to come back with 'ME TOO! We are like the same tiny little person'

KC is about the most narcissitic person EVER!!! I amazes me how much she can bring back to her...

~elizabeth

 

[madeleine]

Dunno how much longer I can listen to this.....and it's only the first jail video.....

 

[aprilshowers]

I don't know .. today I'm confused. She has mentioned Caylee quite a bit, but I do agree that she would normally be livid, if her daughter had been 'taken'.

The only thing that makes sense, is this little girl wasn't killed, is not dead ... but they say they have proof she is, so I don't know. 'sigh

Well, I figure if there's so many other theories out there, can't hurt for me to at least hit on this a bit.

I see 'other' things in these videos.

I don't see her sitting there through that whole time, being able to talk to them about Caylee, them expressing how much they miss her, etc. ... and being so patient and discussing her so personally, if she killed her.

Maybe I'm just blind today, I don't know .... and the last thing most of you want is somebody to defend her, and I'm really not, I'm just telling you what I see and feel, when I watch this.

And maybe the tears are of remorse, guilt for what she did and what she's done to her parents, I don't know. It also sounds like she's holding back allot, not able to say certain things ... and she didn't spill when she was home either, IS there something she just CAN'T tell?

 

[madeleine]

"Is there anything else you want us to say?"
Are you her messenger now Cindy?

Geez,she used her own mother to spread all those cheap lies.

 

[Janis396]

I think the part where KC says to CA " Yes, MOM. We are EXACTLY alike" was very telling.

She was indirectly telling Cindy that she (CA) is a cruel, heartless, souless waste. KC knows she is an evil babykiller and she is clearly saying "Yes MommyDearest, we are IDENTICAL."

And then Casey telling CA that the other inmates are all talking about her and they "respect" her?? LOL....beyond that idiotic statement, how is Casey having conversations the other inmates if she's in protective custody?

 

[Paintr]

"Is there anything else you want us to say?"
Are you her messenger now Cindy?

Geez,she used her own mother to spread all those cheap lies.

Don't know about 'used'. Her mother seemed to jump in with both feet to me.

 

[Clock's Tickin]

Mom_"any messages? anything you want us to say to ANNIE...to TonE?"
KC-"tell AMY I'm sorry"

Guess KC and ANNIE are REALLY on the outs and everyone is right about her being sooooo over TonE (lucky guy). If only they'd release the Annie and JP interviews.....

 

[madeleine]

Don't know about 'used'. Her mother seemed to jump in with both feet to me.

Yep maybe I overreacted a bit .

 

[DebC]

At least this has cleared up one little mystery. Where CA got her "It is what it is" cyndyism. Where else? From KC. Duh! Of course.

 

[Paintr]

Yep maybe I overreacted a bit .

So easy to do around these people. LOL! I just have lost my last shred of sympathy for them. I really do feel badly. THey are drowning in a horrible loss. Then they open their mouths and I just want to scream!

 

[Shar824]

I haven't watched but a little of the jail videos of CA & GAs visit but one thing I did come away with is that KC is thrilled that she no longer has to compete with Caylee for CA & GAs attention. She can finally continue to be up on the throne that her parents put her on years ago. She's the most self centered person I've ever seen. I just can't figure how CA can be as stupid as she is, to not see right through that that killed her precious grandaughter. Poor GA has been out in left field for years, but I do think he sees more of the "true" KC than CA ever could or ever will. I can't wait for this trial to start and see CA on the stand.....prosecution is going to rip her a new one.

 

[Oakley]

Snip:



Something significant to note: Around July 13 IIRC, Casey sent Jesse a text telling him not to take any phone calls from her mother. He was clearly in her trust. And then,as soon as she was busted, Casey warned Cindy not to have anything to do with Jesse. There is a reason that Casey was desperate to keep Cindy and Jesse apart.

I have to wonder if Casey accidentally gave Jesse some sort of clue that she's worried could lead LE or CA to Caylee. I mean, her first priority after her arrest was to drive a wedge between Cindy and Jesse. (I'm not suggesting Jesse's intentionally withholding information; I'm suggesting that he saw or heard something that he paid no attention to at the time and doesn't even remember. But Casey does and she is/was worried.)

IMHO.

Or is she setting him up to blame for Caylee's demise? On another thread, some posters theorized that this might have begun when KC called JG to ask if she could take a shower at his apartment (perhaps getting his dna?) Just to be clear, I am not taking credit for this - it was on another thread.

 

[metalcrystal]

I cant watch any of these thru. CA with her pad and pen, diligently making notes of all the lies like she has to do the detectives job for them, cause KC thinks they are so inept. KC sounds like every other criminal we have ever heard, I didnt do anything, the cops screwed me over, I want the FBI to help me, I swear I am innocent. We have seen it so many times before in other cases. She is just another murderer that got caught. These tapes make that real clear to me. And as one of the def attys said on NG, her parents are just like all the other parents of criminals, in denial and making excuses. I just don't understand how CA can accept all the lies. When my daughter was a teen-ager I could tell the second she tried to fool me and it ended that second. These people are fools.

 

[Oakley]

Very interesting observations!! I added my own little comments in red. :woohoo:

Re: the strange noise-- I didn't notice this when I first watched!! It's STRANGE?? Is she getting upset bc the time is ending? Does she want a cigarette or something? Are they allowed to smoke?? She seems really keyed up about something. It's very odd! Thanks for pointing out!!

I wonder if she is upset because she knows they are going home - without her. And she is going to her cell? Wasn't she upset at the last minute when Lee left too? She said something like she wanted to go home, IIRC.