2009.04.10 Nancy Grace

[CarolinaMoon]

OH NO DOUBT! I seem to recall a poster cutting down ZG's looks not too long ago!! She was criticizing her appearance left and right. It totally smelled like CA!

Well, you know that in the A family appearances are everything... in more ways than one!

 

[Dear Prudence]

That was my first thought with the C being there first. Just another coincidental. I just don't see how Zenaida could sound like it starts with a C, unless the person filling out the card was deaf and lip reading..just joking, someone enlighten me.

Maybe she was spelling it for the apartment person filling out the form. Cee rhymes with Zee, so easy to confuse.

 

[panthera]

Actually, I live in Florida and I could see how someone could hear it with a C sound...like the "C" sounds in the word cycle ("sssssss" sound)- not how the "C" sounds in the word cat ("caah"). Say Zenaida with a "C" using the "ssss" sound. Cenaida. With a heavy Latin accent I could totally see how it could be mistaken. Does that make sense? I'm totally not good at explainin' things, but I tried :blowkiss:

You're making perfect sense. Did you also notice how Jean Casares pronounced her name tonight, compared with how Nancy pronounces it? I think this is what could've happened with the rental office. The person working there didn't know Spanish or Hispanic names, and started spelling it with a "C". MOO

 

[SoCalSleuth]

It was also funny how CA wouldn't answer as to whether or not KC used her credit cards without permission BUT she would answer whether or not KC stole from her bank account. CA knows that the credit card company could go after KC.

She wouldn't answer the credit card question because that's where the possible obstruction charges against her lie, jmho.

 

[CarolinaMoon]

It was also funny how CA wouldn't answer as to whether or not KC used her credit cards without permission BUT she would answer whether or not KC stole from her bank account. CA knows that the credit card company could go after KC.

Thing is, I doubt she looked at the evidence from the latest doc dump. Check it out!

http://www.orlandosentinel.com/media/acrobat/2009-04/46009131.pdf

These are 3 that caught my eye:

6/27/08 2:57 JC Penney - Cindy's card, $84.00 Casey & Tony in Video (Casey used mom's card)

6/30/08 6:08 JC Penney - Cindy's card, $73.40 Casey alone in Video (Casey used mom's card)

7/01/08 4:16 JC Penney - Cindy's card, $31.93 Casey and Amy in Video (Casey used mom's card)

$189.33 in 5 days!

 

[Boston]

According to earlier reports, George was working a 3:00pm to 11:00pm shift at the security job he had at that time. I don't think he was present when Cindy and Casey had that fight.

Although the cell phone pings put Casey at the house...........she could have left the house and be parked somewhere in her car nearby, and the pings would be off the same tower.

Yes she could have left the house & parked nearby & it sounds like a likely thing to do after such a fight.

What has me wondering is the "Pooh" blanket.

Maybe she did leave the house with Caylee & took the Blanket with her so Caylee could sleep in the car.

Would Cindy let Casey walk out of the house with Caylee after such a fight?

I really don't know ...Just speculating.

I'm leaning towards Casey "choking" Caylee in her room in a fit of rage.

After the fight with Cindy I think Casey was mad enough to do it.

 

[Jolynna]

Welcome. I have always believed Caylee was murdered on June 15th.

Casey downloaded a picture to her photobucket at 9:37 a.m. on June 16 from the Anthony house computer's IP address. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3504655&postcount=4

It was a picture of Fusian.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3504899&postcount=9

IF she had just killed Caylee she wouldn't be coming into her parent's house while George was still home.

 

[MAMABEAR]

The Pooh Blanket & Laundry bag are big clues.

I never believed George saw Caylee on the 16th either.

His description of her was too exact & he remembered the exact time.

His description of what Caylee was wearing also matched a "Tip" that was called in just before George made that statement.

It was like he was purposely matching Caylee's clothes to the "Eyewitness Sighting" of Caylee so it would lend credence to his..."Story"

Yup--was the same way he was with the description of Zanny. Him and CA spouted that out like they had memorized it instead of membering. To a T.

 

[Boston]

Actually, I live in Florida and I could see how someone could hear it with a C sound...like the "C" sounds in the word cycle ("sssssss" sound)- not how the "C" sounds in the word cat ("caah"). Say Zenaida with a "C" using the "ssss" sound. Cenaida. With a heavy Latin accent I could totally see how it could be mistaken. Does that make sense? I'm totally not good at explainin' things, but I tried :blowkiss:

It makes sense to me.

ZG may have given her name to whoever filled out the Card & that would account for the misspelling of "Gonzalez" & the "C".

Also, who's to say that Casey wasn't walking by the office just as ZG was giving her name to the manager & she overheard her say....My name is Zenaida Gonzalez?

 

[panthera]

Yes she could have left the house & parked nearby & it sounds like a likely thing to do after such a fight.

What has me wondering is the "Pooh" blanket.

Maybe she did leave the house with Caylee & took the Blanket with her so Caylee could sleep in the car.

Would Cindy let Casey walk out of the house with Caylee after such a fight?

I really don't know ...Just speculating.

I'm leaning towards Casey "choking" Caylee in her room in a fit of rage.

After the fight with Cindy I think Casey was mad enough to do it.

Maybe each of them went to their bedrooms, and by the time CA came out Casey/Caylee were gone. I'm not that familiar with the layout of the house, but wouldn't it be possible that Casey could've walked out the front door and CA not notice it if she was in another part of the house?

 

[panthera]

Casey downloaded a picture to her photobucket at 9:37 a.m. on June 16 from the Anthony house computer's IP address. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3504655&postcount=4

It was a picture of Fusian.
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=3504899&postcount=9

IF she had just killed Caylee she wouldn't be coming into her parent's house while George was still home.

If GA had worked until 11pm, it's likely he'd still be asleep at 9:37am and CA was at work. All she had to do is sneak in, use the computer and leave. If she'd gotten caught, make up some lie about where Caylee was. She seems very good at that, you know. MOO

 

[NSS]

I think we should all be worried that in a time past, GA had a badge and a gun and swore to serve and protect.

Having witnessed his bizarre behaviour, imagine getting pulled over by HIM on a dark night

 

[white_envelope]

Maybe each of them went to their bedrooms, and by the time CA came out Casey/Caylee were gone. I'm not that familiar with the layout of the house, but wouldn't it be possible that Casey could've walked out the front door and CA not notice it if she was in another part of the house?

Well, Cindy would have had no legal grounds to keep Casey from leaving with Caylee. If Casey downloaded a picture at 9:37am on the 16th then that blows that theory UNLESS is was Cindy looking for them? I don't know anything about photobucket but could Cindy dl a pic without Casey's password?

 

[MAMABEAR]

I also think KC killed Caylee the night of the fight she had with CA. I'm not sure at this point where she did it yet but with the dogs hitting in the back yard at the A's I think she may have brought her back there to stage an accident or to get stuff to hide the body. I don't think GA saw them on that Monday either! Not because of the exact time but I have a granddaughter almost the same age as Caylee and I don't see her and her mom staying in their bedroom until 12:50 or so until they left for work. No breakfast, no playing, yeah right!

Hmmmmmmmmm!!!! I take it you don't see CA goin by their room and hearing them "BREATHING"??? Is funny now how we can start to see on what day they started the cover up and to the extent they have gone to--just to cover up for KC.

 

[Boston]

Maybe each of them went to their bedrooms, and by the time CA came out Casey/Caylee were gone. I'm not that familiar with the layout of the house, but wouldn't it be possible that Casey could've walked out the front door and CA not notice it if she was in another part of the house?

Very possible.....I can see the both of them going to their rooms & slamming doors behind them.

Caylee would have most likely been awake & crying from all the yelling.

Maybe that pushed Casey over the edge

 

[Steely Dan]

Is there any "new puppies" in this story?

I don't know I never read it. I found it when LP said there was a kids book with Zanny the Nanny in it. I searched and found it. Maybe somebody here read it. :waitasec:

 

[Leila]

so you think there is a spy:couch:here rat now?

Yes, but not in the last week or so.................

 

[CarolinaMoon]

Maybe she was spelling it for the apartment person filling out the form. Cee rhymes with Zee, so easy to confuse.

In Spanish, most speakers pronounce the "Z" like "S"... think "Senaida."

In English "CE" would be pronounced "SE" as in "cent" or "censure."

 

[MAMABEAR]

According to earlier reports, George was working a 3:00pm to 11:00pm shift at the security job he had at that time. I don't think he was present when Cindy and Casey had that fight.

Although the cell phone pings put Casey at the house...........she could have left the house and be parked somewhere in her car nearby, and the pings would be off the same tower.

Didn't she have the same pings over at LA's house. She could have parked in his P/L or maybe gone to his apt.

 

[Jolynna]

Were those pings on the night of the 15th going into the 16th? Or the next night?

Casey's cell pings June 15:

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&e=243&day=2008-6-15&c=4

1:51 am - cell tower pings near Anthony home until . . .
9:15 am - cell tower pings near AL's apt until . . .
7:13 pm - cell tower pings near Chickasaw Trail until . . .
7:36 pm - cell tower pings near Anthony home until past midnight into the next day
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Casey's cell pings June 16:
http://www.websleuths.com/forums/calendar.php?do=getinfo&day=2008-6-16&c=4

12:20 am - cell tower pings near Anthony home until . . .
4:18 pm - cell tower pings near Chickasaw Trail until . . .
4:25 pm - cell tower pings near AL's apt until after midnight into the next day
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