2009.06.12 Nancy Grace

[Mare10]

I would have liked to have heard more from the psychologist and the panel and less about Mr. Duck, quack quack. That was all quite brief.

 

[USARDOG]

I am doubting Caylee was abused... Think what they are hiding is what the Dr who did the autopsy wrote. She put in her opinion I believe, her strong impression of how Caylee was killed.

 

[panthera]

I am doubting Caylee was abused... Think what they are hiding is what the Dr who did the autopsy wrote. She put in her opinion I believe, her strong impression of how Caylee was killed.

That could possibly be true also. It still strikes me as odd though that GA/CA would be so opposed to the release when there really is so little of Caylee that was recovered. :waitasec:

 

[USARDOG]

I do not for one moment believe Caylee was physically abused... Now, living in the battle ground between CA and KC, that is abuse, but of another kind, and another topic.

From what I understand the dr put in some strong words about how Caylee was killed, her opinion. That could/will be quite damaging to the defense, that's what I think they are trying to suppress. If memory serves we have already heard that there were no apparent broken bones, past or present, in the remains.

 

[panthera]

I do not for one moment believe Caylee was physically abused... Now, living in the battle ground between CA and KC, that is abuse, but of another kind, and another topic.

From what I understand the dr put in some strong words about how Caylee was killed, her opinion. That could/will be quite damaging to the defense, that's what I think they are trying to suppress. If memory serves we have already heard that there were no apparent broken bones, past or present, in the remains.

You're right ~ it could be something as simple as them not wanting her "opinion" out there. But I do believe there is some additional information that warranted the DP being on the table again, and that could very well be evidence that leads right back to their daughter. :behindbar MOO

 

[angeleleven]

That could possibly be true also. It still strikes me as odd though that GA/CA would be so opposed to the release when there really is so little of Caylee that was recovered. :waitasec:

IMO...I think GA/CA just have to have things their way or just fuss about something just for the sake of keeping their name in the public.

 

[Brini]

No, the part that was in the Natl. Enq. was about Casey going "insane" in jail. MOO

Yeah. I just now read it.

 

[panthera]

IMO...I think GA/CA just have to have things their way or just fuss about something just for the sack of keeping their name in the public.

So true! But it only seems they've won the battle not the war ~ the judge can still rule to release the autopsy report. I really don't care if he does or not though as long as nothing is reversed on appeal once Casey is convicted. So I can wait until trial to see what's in it. MOO

 

[OneLostGrl]

Am I only the only person that thinks George's comments to Michelle are very telling?! I read it and was like wow.

 

[Lili]

You're right ~ it could be something as simple as them not wanting her "opinion" out there. But I do believe there is some additional information that warranted the DP being on the table again, and that could very well be evidence that leads right back to their daughter. :behindbar MOO

Are lab test results included in the autopsy? Also, the coroner would have comments describing the removal of the duct tape on the skull with hair attached and her opinion. Duct tape intentionally placed over the nose/mouth area of a small child. Most damning evidence, IMO.

 

[panthera]

Are lab test results included in the autopsy? Also, the coroner would have comments describing the removal of the duct tape on the skull with hair attached and her opinion. Duct tape intentionally placed over the nose/mouth area of a small child. Most damning evidence, IMO.

Yes, the toxicology results would be part of the autopsy report. The public already knows about the duct tape though so what more could we know that would cause the Anthony family "great anguish"? Unless Casey's prints are on it ~ but that wouldn't be in the ME's report. :waitasec: MOO

 

[panthera]

Nancy's show is on again.

 

[Vera_75]

Casey Anthony is not crazy. She proved that she understood the consequences of her actions, over and over again. One good example was when she called Jessy to go get her car, parked at the Amscot. She wanted him to put his fingerprints, and DNA all over the car. That way she could blame him for killing Caley, instead of her. It is obvious that Jessy did not hurt Caley, or Casey.

Jessy's only crime was that he loved Casey, and Caley, and what does he get for it? The Anthony's, and Casey, have tried to implicate him in the murder! They have proven by their behavior that they are not good people.

I believe Casey has already been tested by psychiatrists, and they stated that she was not insane. The insanity plea is difficult to prove, and the defendant has to admit to the crime, and a diminished capacity. Casey is, in no way, diminished, as per the psychiatric testing, and do you really think Casey would admit to killing that sweet, innocent child of hers? No way. If she did, she would be letting her parents off the hook for the guilt she has laid on them, and her life would change dramatically.

Casey has done everything possible to blame others. Her parents have jumped on the bandwagon with her, because they cannot stand the guilt. I have children, and grandchildren, and I think I can understand how guilty I would feel if this happened to one of my own, but I would want justice done, no matter who it was! You begin to believe that it would have been alright, but that you did not do enough to help the parent, your child, with the baby. I do not know if I believe that the Anthony's did 'enough' or not.

Casey is a liar, has been a liar, by all accounts, most of her life. Her parents know this, especially Cindy. That's why she and Casey fight so much, because Casey lies to her about everything. Knowing this, I would not have been so easily inclined to believe anything that Casey told me, and I would have checked up on her on a regular basis.

My question is why didn't the Anthony's hire an attorney, and take custody of Caley? I believe they could have proven that Casey was not a fit parent. Casey even told her brother that Cindy thought she was a bad mother. The Anthony's knew something was not right. Maybe in that instance they are guilty for not stepping in sooner, but they did not kill that child. Their spoiled brat of a daughter killed their granddaughter, and she must pay for it!

Adults know that in the real world there are consequences for your actions. Maybe within the protective bubble of a family setting, parents, and siblings, can ignore the lies, and misdirection, but not in reality. The Anthony's spoiled Casey so much that she thought she could have it all. She felt entitled, because she was spoiled. Her freedom to run around, and party was paramount, and Caley was beginning to communicate better.

Remember when George asked Caley how her day was with Zanny, the 'alleged' nanny? He said that Caley looked at him with a vague expression, and ignored the question. She did that because there was no Zanny the nanny!

I think Casey realized that Caley was becoming a problem because she was talking better and better, as the months went by. Pretty soon Caley would be able to tell her grandparents everything that mommy was doing!!! In my opinion, this was what spurred Casey to kill Caley, at the time that she did.

Casey had a nice little con going at home with her parents. They paid for everything, for her, and Casey. She did not have to pay rent, utilities, buy groceries, diapers, etc. If they refused, she would take the baby away from them. But, if Caley started to talk clearly, and confided in the grandparents about mommy's partying, drinking, and all the daddy's mommy was kissing, her parents would have kicked her out, and taken custody of Caley, one would hope. Casey literally had a growing problem in the form of her innocent child!

It's time for the Anthony's to step back from the media. This is not about them. This is about Casey killing her innocent, helpless child, Caley. Caley deserves justice, and hopefully, will get it. She was a baby, unable to defend herself against her murderous mom. Helpless to fight back. The Anthony's need to remember that when they think of lying to defend that monster of a daughter.

 

[panthera]

Welcome Vera 75!!! Your first post is off to an excellent start! :clap:

 

[OneLostGrl]

Casey Anthony is not crazy. She proved that she understood the consequences of her actions, over and over again. One good example was when she called Jessy to go get her car, parked at the Amscot. She wanted him to put his fingerprints, and DNA all over the car. That way she could blame him for killing Caley, instead of her. It is obvious that Jessy did not hurt Caley, or Casey.

Jessy's only crime was that he loved Casey, and Caley, and what does he get for it? The Anthony's, and Casey, have tried to implicate him in the murder! They have proven by their behavior that they are not good people.

I believe Casey has already been tested by psychiatrists, and they stated that she was not insane. The insanity plea is difficult to prove, and the defendant has to admit to the crime, and a diminished capacity. Casey is, in no way, diminished, as per the psychiatric testing, and do you really think Casey would admit to killing that sweet, innocent child of hers? No way. If she did, she would be letting her parents off the hook for the guilt she has laid on them, and her life would change dramatically.

Casey has done everything possible to blame others. Her parents have jumped on the bandwagon with her, because they cannot stand the guilt. I have children, and grandchildren, and I think I can understand how guilty I would feel if this happened to one of my own, but I would want justice done, no matter who it was! You begin to believe that it would have been alright, but that you did not do enough to help the parent, your child, with the baby. I do not know if I believe that the Anthony's did 'enough' or not.

Casey is a liar, has been a liar, by all accounts, most of her life. Her parents know this, especially Cindy. That's why she and Casey fight so much, because Casey lies to her about everything. Knowing this, I would not have been so easily inclined to believe anything that Casey told me, and I would have checked up on her on a regular basis.

My question is why didn't the Anthony's hire an attorney, and take custody of Caley? I believe they could have proven that Casey was not a fit parent. Casey even told her brother that Cindy thought she was a bad mother. The Anthony's knew something was not right. Maybe in that instance they are guilty for not stepping in sooner, but they did not kill that child. Their spoiled brat of a daughter killed their granddaughter, and she must pay for it!

Adults know that in the real world there are consequences for your actions. Maybe within the protective bubble of a family setting, parents, and siblings, can ignore the lies, and misdirection, but not in reality. The Anthony's spoiled Casey so much that she thought she could have it all. She felt entitled, because she was spoiled. Her freedom to run around, and party was paramount, and Caley was beginning to communicate better.

Remember when George asked Caley how her day was with Zanny, the 'alleged' nanny? He said that Caley looked at him with a vague expression, and ignored the question. She did that because there was no Zanny the nanny!

I think Casey realized that Caley was becoming a problem because she was talking better and better, as the months went by. Pretty soon Caley would be able to tell her grandparents everything that mommy was doing!!! In my opinion, this was what spurred Casey to kill Caley, at the time that she did.

Casey had a nice little con going at home with her parents. They paid for everything, for her, and Casey. She did not have to pay rent, utilities, buy groceries, diapers, etc. If they refused, she would take the baby away from them. But, if Caley started to talk clearly, and confided in the grandparents about mommy's partying, drinking, and all the daddy's mommy was kissing, her parents would have kicked her out, and taken custody of Caley, one would hope. Casey literally had a growing problem in the form of her innocent child!

It's time for the Anthony's to step back from the media. This is not about them. This is about Casey killing her innocent, helpless child, Caley. Caley deserves justice, and hopefully, will get it. She was a baby, unable to defend herself against her murderous mom. Helpless to fight back. The Anthony's need to remember that when they think of lying to defend that monster of a daughter.

Bold is mine.
She learned from the best!

Excellent post! hope ya stick around!

 

[amysmom]

NG "Straight out to Mark Williams standing by at the Court House"
NG how did the A's get Strickland to keep the 35 page autopsy.
Mark: Clearly there is something really upsetting in it. If it doesn't see the light of day now...it will be seen at trial.

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Sheaffer thinks the judge will release the report & he's usually right on the $$$.

LEGAL EXPERT: Sheaffer On Withheld Autopsy Documents
http://www.wftv.com/video/19738543/index.html

 

[noonie]

Then again, they might just be doing this for PR. Why not ? Anything to distract is their theory. And to distract from the release of the jail house video? MO