2009.08.05 State Deposition of George Anthony

[Imbackon]

I'm sure that the insistence of a DNA test by the Grund's pissed the Anthony's off quite a bit, and that fact in and of itself may be why the Anthony's have so much animosity towards Jesse.

Yes, that is what I am thinking too when I said "gone along with the program, not question KC and accepted her lie"
With George and Cindy separating 2 months after Caylee's birth, I am wondering if this coincides with when the cat was out of the bag regarding JG not being the dad?
Could the result of this DNA be part of why Cindy and George separated at this time?
I don't believe I have read in JG's depo whether there was anything asked regarding how the Anthony's reacted to the test result.
Anyone else remember if there was?

 

[panthera]

I'm sure that the insistence of a DNA test by the Grund's pissed the Anthony's off quite a bit, and that fact in and of itself may be why the Anthony's have so much animosity towards Jesse.

And I think Jesse was probably right on when he said he believes CA was behind the broken engagement. I don't think the A's wanted to know who Caylee's father was so they could keep her as their own and control Casey & Caylee. MOO

 

[countzero]

Oh my .... I just had a horrible thought, again.

GA and his insistence he did not put the tape on the gas can raises some red flags to me.

Is it possible that either before or after Caylee was duct taped across her face that this piece of duct tape that was on the gas can was applied to the gas can in the same exact time frame as Caylee was?

Hence the creation of GAs bull carp story.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Don't know if there is a thread for inconsistencies/contradictions made during this interview and GA's LE interview from 7/31/08. I just listened to that video and found a few. One immediate impression is that GA was clearly far more sincere and cooperative back then. Regarding Casey's pregnancy, he stated in the 7/31/08 interview that she "concealed it from us for a month or 2. And he claims the first thing he did upon learning she was pregnant was cry. The second thing he did was ask "who is the father." During the state deposition, he claimed to find our about the pregnancy in May, IIRC. And he goes on and on about how overjoyed he was upon first hearing the news. He also says he didn't immediately inquire about the identity of the baby's father.

Bolded part - He'll claim they were tears of joy. :banghead:

 

[Woe.be.gone]

GA's depo gives great insight into how things worked in the fairytale land of A-ville! It was a matriarchal land, where Cindy was Queen.

George was basically a figurehead

-his role was husband of the queen-but there is no power in that position! Basically his function and Lee's was to support the queen and her princess and not make any waves-just tiptoe around them.

Unlike in England, the princess

(KC) was next in line-not the prince (Lee):cheesehead2:.
Along came the littlest princess! Caylee

was welcomed into family and brought laughter and light for a brief moment in time. But, as Cindy herself so aptly put it in her myspace, JEALOUSY took her away!
Cindy and George are trying desperately to put this fairytale back together! If Cindy hadn't involved the police-I'm sure none of us would have known of Caylee! Cindy would have found a way to clean up, cover up and rationalize what happened and life in the land at Hopesprings Dr. would have carried on while waiting for the next heir to be born! Cindy would have just made sure to not make the same mistake again and pay more ATTENTION next time!!:slap:

Feeling creative? Nice graphics.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Oh my .... I just had a horrible thought, again.

GA and his insistence he did not put the tape on the gas can raises some red flags to me.

Is it possible that either before or after Caylee was duct taped across her face that this piece of duct tape that was on the gas can was applied to the gas can in the same exact time frame as Caylee was?

Hence the creation of GAs bull carp story.

Anything is possible at this point. Would it happen at the shed, in the trunk of the Pontiac, on top of the freezer? Why put the excess tape on over the hole versus just on the can somewhere? I hope LE looked under the tape to see if there is a smaller, neater piece under the bigger piece - could that be possible? Did GA say the can was returned to him by LE or do they still have it in evidence storage?

Remember KC and TL came and got the gas cans from the shed prior to June 24. TL said he broke the lock. I can't remember how he said he did it.
I swear my brain is mush these days.

GA stated that there was no tape on the can when he placed it inside the garage (and shortly thereafter moved it/them back to the shed) on June 24 when the gas cans came out of the trunk of the Pontiac. If he said the tape was there then, he'd be linking it to KC since she was the last one to use the can from that point in time. What happened to the old tape I wonder? Do we know? That is, why was new tape needed to cover the hole in the first place? Ummm.

 

[drip~drop]

He really does seem clueless as to the severity of the situation - almost as if he is dense or something.

Another poster mentioned that he may have Alzheimers but I think what he suffers from is selective amnesia.

It's as if something is right in front of him but he is insisting he can't see it even though everyone else in the room can.
I'm going to whisper this; I almost found myself feeling sorry for him at times - maybe CA's been knocking him on the head repeatedly or something. :banghead:

This illness isn't well known but....just maybe George has some issues, not his sister. Link Below
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/transient-global-amnesia/DS01022

Now, let's see who on the defense team picks this one up. lol

I don't know how much I can copy from there , so here is the beginning.
Transient global amnesia is a sudden, temporary episode of memory loss that can't be attributed to a more common neurological condition, such as epilepsy or stroke.

During an episode of transient global amnesia, your recall of recent events simply vanishes, so you can't remember where you are or how you got there. You may also draw a blank when asked to remember things that happened a day, a month or even a year ago. With transient global amnesia, you do remember who you are, and recognize the people you know well, but that doesn't make your memory loss any less disturbing.

Fortunately, transient global amnesia is rare, seemingly harmless and unlikely to happen again. Episodes are usually short-lived, and afterward your memory is fine.

 

[Nore]

This is certainly an interesting read. If I had ever told my husband "I'll handle this",I'd have been looking for a new place to live.We handled situations together! George seems like he didnt pay a lot of attention but then why should he? he wasnt allowed to say anything.:croc: Mr. B. made me LOL, he didnt understand what Ashton was talking about :banghead:for Gods sake I have no formal education and I understood him completely..This is college and Law school? What a joke. A really think G. is between a rock and a hard place.

P.S. I'm not finished reading yet,my eyes gave out.LOL/

 

[LetJusticePrevail]

I believe all of the A's stated in the recently released depos that they have not had not received any letters from KC, from JB.

Well, that's a lie. See page 6 http://www.docstoc.com/docs/1677910/Cindy-Anthony-Cell-Phone

 

[suepitzl]

After re-reading the OSCO report from DEC 11th, regarding items seized from the Anthony home, OSCO retrieved a gas can with the Henkel logo on it in December of 2008. What happened to the roll of tape?

 

[Woe.be.gone]

This illness isn't well known but....just maybe George has some issues, not his sister. Link Below
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/transient-global-amnesia/DS01022

Now, let's see who on the defense team picks this one up. lol

I don't know how much I can copy from there , so here is the beginning.
Transient global amnesia is a sudden, temporary episode of memory loss that can't be attributed to a more common neurological condition, such as epilepsy or stroke.

During an episode of transient global amnesia, your recall of recent events simply vanishes, so you can't remember where you are or how you got there. You may also draw a blank when asked to remember things that happened a day, a month or even a year ago. With transient global amnesia, you do remember who you are, and recognize the people you know well, but that doesn't make your memory loss any less disturbing.

Fortunately, transient global amnesia is rare, seemingly harmless and unlikely to happen again. Episodes are usually short-lived, and afterward your memory is fine.

:waitasec: Could it be? What a convenient condition to have while you're involved in a criminal case concerning your daughter (kidding of course). Wait a minute, KC did claim that her Dad had "almost" suffered a "small" stroke which is why she couldn't keep her date with AH that day to help her get her new car. :waitasec: (It gets me that one can almost suffer a "small stroke" - KC must not hate her Dad that much - ha!)

 

[Woe.be.gone]

After re-reading the OSCO report from DEC 11th, regarding items seized from the Anthony home, OSCO retrieved a gas can with the Henkel logo on it in December of 2008. What happened to the roll of tape?

Unless I've missed something or have the condition described above (which I feel I may), the role of tape was never found at the A's house or anywhere else for that matter. If I recall correctly, LE never uncovered ANY roll of duct tape at the A's house which is thought to be strange as they seem to have all tools, gadgets available to do any household job, etc.

There was a roll of tape that KC took from AH of which there has been much discussion. AH texted KC that KC was in possession of her roll of tape (AH used it for her job in play production). KC had it because of the anything but clothes party - they used it to put costumes together iirc.

It's posssible that KC used that roll of tape in relation to the crime.

As far as I know, the ownership of the roll of tape is not confirmed. I haven't finished reading CA's depo but I read somewhere that she testified that it was indeed their tape. iirc LE checked the shed and around the house to find evidence of the tape in use which would indicate it had belonged to the A's (not sure about the results of this search).
Back to GA, he claims he did not place the tape on the gas can and would not know one role of tape from another. Is this how other peeps view his testimony?

 

[salvarenga]

Better picture of the gas can photo that they were showing George. This is the exhibit that he was shown where he insists he would have not have applied the tape in the way that it is applied.

*Thanks to MuzikMan for going and getting color photos of these.*

 

[ZsaZsa]

This illness isn't well known but....just maybe George has some issues, not his sister. Link Below
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/transient-global-amnesia/DS01022

Now, let's see who on the defense team picks this one up. lol

I don't know how much I can copy from there , so here is the beginning.
Transient global amnesia is a sudden, temporary episode of memory loss that can't be attributed to a more common neurological condition, such as epilepsy or stroke.

During an episode of transient global amnesia, your recall of recent events simply vanishes, so you can't remember where you are or how you got there. You may also draw a blank when asked to remember things that happened a day, a month or even a year ago. With transient global amnesia, you do remember who you are, and recognize the people you know well, but that doesn't make your memory loss any less disturbing.

Fortunately, transient global amnesia is rare, seemingly harmless and unlikely to happen again. Episodes are usually short-lived, and afterward your memory is fine.

He has what is called Selective Amnesia.
He remembers depending on who is doing the asking- if it's LE or the SA then he doesn't recall much of anything.

 

[lawlady84]

I only had a chance to skim through most of these documents and threads, but it really strikes me how little respect these deponents/witnesses have for the entire criminal justice system.

They are swearing, under oath, to God, that they are telling the truth. Depositions are SERIOUS! Do they not fear God?

Even if they don't have any respect for the system, that while it isn't perfect, keeps us safe - they should at least have a little respect for the baby at the center of this that all of these wonderful law enforcement officers are working to avenge!

 

[cecybeans]

Please forgive me if this has been discussed here. I am challenged with just getting the depos read, much less the excellent commentary.

I am wondering what the big strategy here is with GA (and also CA) NOT verifying that KC was home the night of the 15th. GA says he saw Caylee sleeping on KC's bed in this depo, but could not verify he saw KC. He also adds that he gave Caylee breakfast (a loose end that many asked about, but after the public inquired, I find that immaterial).

Also, CA departs from her earlier story about "hearing them breathing" before she went to work and indicates she left earlier.

We know they have all been coached big time for this; I'm just wondering how this would fit into some defense strategy? What possible benefit would the defense have for GA not being able to verify KC's presence in the house that night?

 

[whiteangora]

Please forgive me if this has been discussed here. I am challenged with just getting the depos read, much less the excellent commentary.

I am wondering what the big strategy here is with GA (and also CA) NOT verifying that KC was home the night of the 15th. GA says he saw Caylee sleeping on KC's bed in this depo, but could not verify he saw KC. He also adds that he gave Caylee breakfast (a loose end that many asked about, but after the public inquired, I find that immaterial).

Also, CA departs from her earlier story about "hearing them breathing" before she went to work and indicates she left earlier.

We know they have all been coached big time for this; I'm just wondering how this would fit into some defense strategy? What possible benefit would the defense have for GA not being able to verify KC's presence in the house that night?

For one thing, it would make the supposed fight impossible if Casey wasn't there.

 

[cecybeans]

For one thing, it would make the supposed fight impossible if Casey wasn't there.

That's a point, but I always thought it would have taken place earlier anyway. KC came home about 8:30 pm or so, plenty of time to have fought with her mom before GA got in at around 11:30 or so.

I just don't see why having her and Caylee sleeping in the same bed, as in the original story, wouldn't have supported the same "no-fight" theory. It is baffling me. Also why CA cut the part about hearing them breathe. It's almost like they don't want to admit she was even there, in stark contrast to their earlier claims (and to specific computer activiity, if not general-area pings).

 

[elementary]

Better picture of the gas can photo that they were showing George. This is the exhibit that he was shown where he insists he would have not have applied the tape in the way that it is applied.

*Thanks to MuzikMan for going and getting color photos of these.*

I just realised how bizarre this is. Wouldn't there be fingerprints or DNA on that piece of tape? My comp is too old for the docs so maybe I missed that info.

 

[Just Jayla]

Unless I've missed something or have the condition described above (which I feel I may), the role of tape was never found at the A's house or anywhere else for that matter. If I recall correctly, LE never uncovered ANY roll of duct tape at the A's house which is thought to be strange as they seem to have all tools, gadgets available to do any household job, etc.

There was a roll of tape that KC took from AH of which there has been much discussion. AH texted KC that KC was in possession of her roll of tape (AH used it for her job in play production). KC had it because of the anything but clothes party - they used it to put costumes together iirc.

It's posssible that KC used that roll of tape in relation to the crime.

As far as I know, the ownership of the roll of tape is not confirmed. I haven't finished reading CA's depo but I read somewhere that she testified that it was indeed their tape. iirc LE checked the shed and around the house to find evidence of the tape in use which would indicate it had belonged to the A's (not sure about the results of this search).
Back to GA, he claims he did not place the tape on the gas can and would not know one role of tape from another. Is this how other peeps view his testimony?

This tape may also have been used to put up Caylee posters after they found out Caylee was "missing"- according to media pictures of Caylee posters with the Henkel tape-so they could have finished the roll and tossed the core at Publix/elsewhere.