2009.09.04 Cindy sent D.Casey/Hoover to remains site Addtional VIDEO RELEASED #2

[SallyLu]

I also think that he located her. I just don't know (this sounds so awful) what parts of her he found.

What makes me SO ANGRY is that there he was, walking all over her. Possibly pushing her tiny, scattered bones deeper into the ground. Picking up that baby blanket and not calling LE. Dropping it back onto the ground like it is nothing.

I'm wondering if he thought that he would find Caylee whole and then when he did find whatever he found of her, like you said, couldn't bring himself to make that phone call to whoever he was supposed to call.

I still can't comprehend how he can live with himself. Knowing that she was right there and he just left her there. I can't even think of a word to describe how sad and angry that makes me.

It makes me angry too. How this lot can live with themselves I don't get.

 

[steadychick]

Isn't it ironic, that a search that was apparently set up to prove that Caylee wasn't there may now prove that they KNEW she was there, tampered with evidence, lied and told no one. There's Karma at work here.

I too think that for some reason, they thought she would never be found, that the bones were too scattered. Either that or Dominic told the family and Baez that he had moved/hidden the remains, when in fact he couldn't bring himself to do that. Maybe we'll find out soon.

 

[SallyLu]

Isn't it ironic, that a search that was apparently set up to prove that Caylee wasn't there may now prove that they KNEW she was there, tampered with evidence, lied and told no one. There's Karma at work here.

I too think that for some reason, they thought she would never be found, that the bones were too scattered. Either that or Dominic told the family and Baez that he had moved/hidden the remains, when in fact he couldn't bring himself to do that. Maybe we'll find out soon.

I hope so - I am so ready. I wake up every day wanting this day to be the one that not only gets justice for Caylee but shows the ugly in this mob. "Family" is too good of a word to call them that.

 

[cloud9]

I also think that he located her. I just don't know (this sounds so awful) what parts of her he found.

What makes me SO ANGRY is that there he was, walking all over her. Possibly pushing her tiny, scattered bones deeper into the ground. Picking up that baby blanket and not calling LE. Dropping it back onto the ground like it is nothing.

I'm wondering if he thought that he would find Caylee whole and then when he did find whatever he found of her, like you said, couldn't bring himself to make that phone call to whoever he was supposed to call.

I still can't comprehend how he can live with himself. Knowing that she was right there and he just left her there. I can't even think of a word to describe how sad and angry that makes me.

I also, IMO, believe he found her. And when he said the reason he was "freaked out" was because the so-called psychic knew where things were from another state, I think what REALLY freaked him out was that he found Caylee, not what he was told on the phone.

 

[strawberry]

Hope this isn't tooooo OT but it's related to CAs enabling of KC. On TMZ there is a story of Nancy Kerrigan defending her brother. One of the comments was: for crying out loud, just change your last name to anthony and move to orlando already, which was exactly my thought!

 

[ThommyMac]

I truly think the hammer is coming down. Not just for DC but the whole supporting cast. For many of the reasons mentioned in the 'SA meets the judge' thread but all of the karma discussed on this thread. The videos discussed and a little we may have not seen will force a 'show of hands'. The PI's are going to sing like Enrique Caruso. The fallout will make everybody say about the May, 2011 date 'Ah, I understand now" (Sorry, could not resist it :smile

 

[sleutherontheside]

I truly think the hammer is coming down. Not just for DC but the whole supporting cast. For many of the reasons mentioned in the 'SA meets the judge' thread but all of the karma discussed on this thread. The videos discussed and a little we may have not seen will force a 'show of hands'. The PI's are going to sing like Enrique Caruso. The fallout will make everybody say about the May, 2011 date 'Ah, I understand now" (Sorry, could not resist it :smile

BBM

OMG....I was reading that so fast that I actually read that as MARY 2011.....I was thinking is that the new date for the apocalypse 2012???

Kind of fits though huh??

 

[Just Jayla]

I call B.S that he did not see anything. He walked up out of the woods in what looks like the same area that LE entered (down the slope). IIRC, this slope leads down to the path, and that path, in turn, goes east towards the wooden fence.
Now, maybe he did not see her remains, but just the blanket alone should have given him the chills, given him great pause.
He also admitted to LE that he had his still camera with him, so I am certain they had to have asked him for it.
I believe him when he says he dreaded the thought of finding her-Who wouldn't? It's a spooky thought, to think that you will find a little person like that, and I agree with other posters that maybe he freaked and his brain stalled when he did find evidence that she was there. Gives me the chills to think about being in his shoes.
HOWEVER, c'mon dude, you don't leave someone's loved one in the trashed woods like that. Even if an Anthony told you to, you have to think about Caylee's great- grandparents, her second cousins, Mallory-People that would be presumably horrified and so hurt at the thought of leaving her there. It's just not right at all, and while I don't bring religion up here often, I must say that God was watching him that day, and his best bet for a happy eternity is to repent (spill the beans) now.

 

[Just Jayla]

DC absolutely did take pictures, and CA saw them:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13348352/Cindy_BaezObjections_SealedStuff

Page one of the document.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

BBM

OMG....I was reading that so fast that I actually read that as MARY 2011.....I was thinking is that the new date for the apocalypse 2012???

Kind of fits though huh??

OT: SOTS - I am just as obsessed with the 2012 stuff as I am with this 2011 stuff!

 

[Misfitdolly]

First, are there any trees marked with orange spray paint near where the remains/evidence was gathered? You can see one is marked about waist high to Dominic's right as he stands over the pink blanket with the hole.

Another, I have to admit, I got kind of excited when I saw JH had zoomed in on something blue under the thick vegetation because I went back and looked at the pictures where the remains were found because I remember blue.

Patiently watch then rewatch the video from about 5:29 to 5:42 a few times.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T04rfgU5E8A

compare to pictures where it has and has not been cut back.
Are those pavers under the tent?

Bingo, bottom right corner blue. And what appear to be a few pavers exactly if you would have turned to the left like JH did in the video.

Great find! Do you guys see anything at 9:13? Pause it right at 9:13. I am not quite sure what I am seeing but DC's foot is pointing at something tan or brown which has something black/shiny above it. I am thinking maybe the laundry bag and part of a garbage bag above it. I also see more shiny black in the top left corner.

 

[tankgirl]

I see what you mentioned, Mis D.. just not sure what it is. I wish Hoover was a better cameraman!

In the "after" photo of the crime scene you can see a narrow tree trunk that bends distinctively to the right. It is between the two right legs of the canopy, several feet back. DC was near this area at about 4:46 in the video. He was definitely very close. So strange.

 

[FORDANIEL]

You know I think this is the first time I have watched such a complete video of the DC searches,and I found them chilling.I cannot believe that there is not a connection,with the vacant house.Both days he went to both places,as noted by his different clothing.He KNEW where to look,both areas!!!!

 

[steadychick]

I see what you mentioned, Mis D.. just not sure what it is. I wish Hoover was a better cameraman!

In the "after" photo of the crime scene you can see a narrow tree trunk that bends distinctively to the right. It is between the two right legs of the canopy, several feet back. DC was near this area at about 4:46 in the video. He was definitely very close. So strange.

Thanks tankgirl -- I froze the video and opened another tab with the above picture and kept comparing the two, back and forth. Sure looks to me like it could be the same leaning tree, but can't be positive. I really want to believe that this video shows he was in the right spot. If it is the same spot, no way you're ever going to convince a jury he was led there by a psychic. Somebody was told exactly where to go.

 

[steadychick]

You know I think this is the first time I have watched such a complete video of the DC searches,and I found them chilling.I cannot believe that there is not a connection,with the vacant house.Both days he went to both places,as noted by his different clothing.He KNEW where to look,both areas!!!!

And don't forget, according to Hoover DC went there at least once or twice more by himself. Gotta wonder why if he was so convinced there was nothing there and nothing worth informing LE about.

 

[TotallyObsessed]

I think there is something with that house. KC either hid out there or hid something there. IMO. It plays into the scenario somehow, and I think she let that cat out of the bag at the same time she told about what happened to Caylee. I know we had a member who at the time actually went to that house and met up with Kathie Belich who was also looking at the house at the same time. We just need to dig up that old thread. Sorry I have to run - daughter's 21st birthday! I just have always thought something abut that house. And IMO they (JH and DC) were looking for something specific. Like when they show on the video the shed.....and that blue bin....dunno but I think it is important somehow.

 

[Reagan]

DC absolutely did take pictures, and CA saw them:

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/13348352/Cindy_BaezObjections_SealedStuff

Page one of the document.

Funny how she says... later she seen photographs that Mr. Casey took. Indicating that she seen photos after the remains were already found but 1) CA lies like she breathes. It comes that natural to her as seen in multiple interviews/depositions. And 2) Those photos have not been released that I can recall. Just JH's videos.

She had to have seen them after they were taken in Nov. I mean she did send her "people" out there, and would have wanted to know what they found, if anything.

These people need to be locked up for crying out loud.

 

[Kentjbkent]

I think there is something with that house. KC either hid out there or hid something there. IMO. It plays into the scenario somehow, and I think she let that cat out of the bag at the same time she told about what happened to Caylee. I know we had a member who at the time actually went to that house and met up with Kathie Belich who was also looking at the house at the same time. We just need to dig up that old thread. Sorry I have to run - daughter's 21st birthday! I just have always thought something abut that house. And IMO they (JH and DC) were looking for something specific. Like when they show on the video the shed.....and that blue bin....dunno but I think it is important somehow.

I still think the only connection to that house was the connection to a Gonzales family.

We all read DC/CA email exchanges and witnessed how they tried to tie irrelevant information into a possible defense for KC...

I think THEY were trying to tie that house to Zenaida "The Imaginanny"...

 

[FORDANIEL]

I still think the only connection to that house was the connection to a Gonzales family.

We all read DC/CA email exchanges and witnessed how they tried to tie irrelevant information into a possible defense for KC...

I think THEY were trying to tie that house to Zenaida "The Imaginanny"...

DC was digging,with a spade in one specific area at that house,on more than one occasion,I think there is more to this house thing.JMHO.

 

[Eidetic]

Entertaining myself remembering the house Casey was talking about signing for, in her texts. How she'd been to look at it several times and it was pretty much set with the home owner :doh:
We already know Casey likes to sneak around houses minus their residents within the area. She certainly doesn't have a problem "borrowing" from those around her either.

I have always thought she moved Caylee at least once after she got her away from mom and dad. I can see her paranoid that she probably wouldn't be able to "go visit her" or that she'd possibly be found if someone searched there or the property had been sold.

It would be nice if they had something they could tie that house to Caylee's dump site. There are prints somewhere waiting patiently for dusting...