2009.09.04 Cindy sent D.Casey/Hoover to remains site Addtional VIDEO RELEASED #2

[cloud9]

JAYLA IS FINALLY LOSING IT!!


Edited my quote down to the simple statement above. Most of you figured that out a year ago.


Here is a more constructive way to look at this-Please, WS'ers, as you probably have before, take another look at this link:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T04rfgU5E8A

Specifically, 5:30 - 5:41 and from 6:11 - 6:50.
At 6:11, JH is walking westward toward the Zenaida fence. JH is going to make a left into the path and start videotaping the bush/tree combo to his immediate left.

Go back to 6:11 again as James is walking in-Does DC appear to be already in the woods near that same bush?

As you go through tape through 6:50, please look very hard, not when JH is focusing on the pavers, but when his camera settles on the gap/hole inside the bush. Is there anything in that bushy growth cave?

Is there any indication that this is the curved tree Caylee was supposedly found near (the upright tree, not the fallen tree, which I believe RK also described)? I can't really make out the tree itself-Some of the things about this tree match how RK described things. Just wondering if it's possible that DC/JH were that close, and if so, why DC was in there mucking around. Later in the tape, JH is focusing on a similar bush with pavers, not sure it's the same one-Again, look inside the bush.

Thank you for posting this!!!
A few things... It's been speculated that that blue thing was a glove from when Caylee was found. But we now know that's not what it was because it was there BEFORE she was found. This video tells a lot, at least I think it does. The "psychic"... she mentioned the pavers. Did she mention the blanket to DC? Also, does anyone know how much contact CA had with this "psychic?" I *think* CA sent her one of Caylee's teddy bears? What I'm getting at is this. Did CA tell this "psychic" what to look for, and where? And if so, who told CA??? There would be only one person who would know! AND what transpired after this search??? What was said about it and to who?

Sorry for babbling on, but this search has always bothered me a lot!

ETA~ The blue thing, I meant a glove from LE and/or whoever showed at the scene in December, 2008.

 

[Leila]

I've watched this tape a million times and I get madder and madder each time. All I will say is that DC was extremely close... too close! No doubt in my mind that he was stepping all over Caylee... moving her tiny bones... pushing them deeper and deeper into the ground. I am sure if DC did what any reasonable person would do, when he found that baby blanket, and called 911 (again someone not calling 911) they might have even found bone fragments on the bottom of his shoes.

There is nothing DC can ever say that would make me feel okay with him not calling LE when he went out there, not once, not twice, but three times. He knew she was out there. He knew!! To see him treat the scene so carelessly makes me even madder! What if Caylee had been in one of those black trash bags?? Does he think that poking and slashing in those bags is the right thing to do? Does he know that he could have damaged evidence (I personally think that is what he went out there to do anyways)?

If anyone tampered with that scene on Suburban Drive, it was Dominic Casey. Why isn't the defense going after DC? There is even video! If they wanted to... they could blame it all on Cindy and George. Say that they knew where Caylee's remains were... that only the killer would know where the remains were. Cindy and George have admitted that they have not spoken with Casey since 0ct. 14th, 2008.... we all know there have been letters passed back and forth, but George denies this on the stand... I don't remember what Cindy said? I think the only problem they have with going in this direction is because Dominic Casey knows too much!

This trial can not get here fast enough!

And yet we've got the defense making an issue over how high RK may have lifted Caylee's skull when he found the remains on Dec. 11, 2008.

The defense is trying to say that someone moved the remains after Casey was arrested and in jail. YES, the remains were likely moved by Dominic Casey trampling the scene in his efforts to find Caylee's remains before the police found them.

The last we heard, in December 2009, was that Dominic Casey was to be questioned by the state under an investigative subpoena. The defense would not be allowed to be present unless they put DC on their witness list.

DC has completely fallen off the radar and we've heard nothing more about what DC may have said. I suspect (hope) he told the truth when he was questioned by the state about how he came to be looking for Caylee's remains within just a few feet of where she was eventually found. Who told him to look there? Casey? Cindy?

DC is on the state's witness list. I've long felt that DC holds the key to answering a lot of questions. I have a feeling his testimony will be very damaging to the defense.

DC may also be part of a parallel investigation that will result in charges of obstruction of justice, lying to LE, and tampering with evidence against others in this case.

 

[LancelotLink]

ITA!! DC IMO, is the closest we will ever get to any form of truth about this entire mess.

 

[Leila]

Thank you for posting this!!!
A few things... It's been speculated that that blue thing was a glove from when Caylee was found. But we now know that's not what it was because it was there BEFORE she was found. This video tells a lot, at least I think it does. The "psychic"... she mentioned the pavers. Did she mention the blanket to DC? Also, does anyone know how much contact CA had with this "psychic?" I *think* CA sent her one of Caylee's teddy bears? What I'm getting at is this. Did CA tell this "psychic" what to look for, and where? And if so, who told CA??? There would be only one person who would know! AND what transpired after this search??? What was said about it and to who?

Sorry for babbling on, but this search has always bothered me a lot!

ETA~ The blue thing, I meant a glove from LE and/or whoever showed at the scene in December, 2008.

I've always suspected that the psychic was simply a go between - someone that was given specifics and then the psychic relayed those specifics to DC as if they were her own thoughts arrived at through a special ability. The original plan was probably that all interaction would be between the psychic and DC. Had DC found Caylee, there would have been no mention of Cindy's role in all this......it would be DC giving credit to the psychic for finding Caylee.

 

[ynotdivein]

ITA!! DC IMO, is the closest we will ever get to any form of truth about this entire mess.

And we have not seen depos yet of DC, or of MH (revealed last week to have been wired for sound during visits to JB's offices and A's home).

If JB & Co are acting smarmy because they think they have something up their sleeve, IMO the SA is continuing to be tight-lipped because they KNOW they have something(s) up their sleeves. And I will place my bets on whatever's in JA/LDB's sleeves vs. what's up JB/CM's any day of the week.

 

[cloud9]

I've always suspected that the psychic was simply a go between - someone that was given specifics and then the psychic relayed those specifics to DC as if they were her own thoughts arrived at through a special ability. The original plan was probably that all interaction would be between the psychic and DC. Had DC found Caylee, there would have been no mention of Cindy's role in all this......it would be DC giving credit to the psychic for finding Caylee.

Thank you!

I agree! This whole "search" was secretive and very eerie.

 

[LolaMoon08]

My problem is believing CA when she says SHE sent her people to search those specific woods when the emails between DC and the woo-woos indicate CA was playing little or no role in directing anyone to do anything - they were just playing her along. I think Cindy said a lot of things to show she was in control when clearly she wasn't, and most of what she said has been proven to have no basis in fact.

I have a hard time believing that Cindy Anthony played a minimal role in anything starting in July 2008. Just because we don't see her in those emails doesn't mean that she did not have a very significant role in Dominic Casey going out into those woods in November 2008. This is a woman who thought her house was bugged (it may have been?) and she had to realize that by writing emails, that LE could retrieve them... she had learned a thing or two from them taking their computers before. I am sure that a lot of the contact that Cindy Anthony had with Dominic Casey was in person.

Cindy would also never allow someone else to be in control when it came to her family, so I don't agree that she was saying these things to make it sound like she was in control.

I know we see Cindy Anthony differently, and I am okay with that. I have always appreciated your opinion on Cindy Anthony and her behavior, but I disagree again. Cindy Anthony is not this little woman who is trying to act tough. This is a woman who made nasty threats via phone message to Tim Miller and John Allen... two men who were doing everything in their power to find Caylee for Cindy. This is a woman who had "waged war" against anyone who tried to help search for Caylee. My God, just go back and listen to some of her earlier interviews with the media... and the way she treated the very people who were trying to help her find Caylee.

I think the Anthony's have known the truth for quite some time and they have personally been okay with that truth for a long time now. I have always thought that Cindy has forgiven Casey... that since Cindy has forgiven Casey that everyone else should mind their own business and let her deal with Casey the way she always has. This is a woman who admits that she would have waited to call 911 to report Caylee missing if she knew then what she knows now. I always knew that if Cindy had time to calm down that day... and given Casey one more day... we would have never known about Caylee Marie Anthony. This is evident by Cindy stating "I already sent my people out there and they didn't find anything."

Their problem is that they do know the truth and their anger and complete disrespect for the law comes from them knowing that truth. Their problem and the reason they are so angry and combative is because they don't want anyone else to know the truth.

I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony played a significant role is "sending" Dominic Casey into those woods to find Caylee. You have to look deeper into those emails to see that either the day before or a few days before, Dominic Casey sent Luke, and by way of Luke to Ginette, a map of the Suburban location with a thumbscrew in the woods on Suburban Drive. DC states that he got a call at the location from Ginette Lucas and he was freaked out because he was already there. So he was already at this location, by his own admission, before Ginette Lucas even "led" him there. He also states in his emails that he lied about being out there because of the Kiomarie tip... so then you have to ask yourself... if he was not out there because Kiomarie's statement led him out there... and he didn't get a phone call from Ginette Lucas until he was actually out there... you have to then ask yourself... what brought him out there in the first place?? I think we have that answer and her name is Cindy Marie Anthony.

 

[logicalgirl]

I have a hard time believing that Cindy Anthony played a minimal role in anything starting in July 2008. Just because we don't see her in those emails doesn't mean that she did not have a very significant role in Dominic Casey going out into those woods in November 2008. This is a woman who thought her house was bugged (it may have been?) and she had to realize that by writing emails, that LE could retrieve them... she had learned a thing or two from them taking their computers before. I am sure that a lot of the contact that Cindy Anthony had with Dominic Casey was in person.

Cindy would also never allow someone else to be in control when it came to her family, so I don't agree that she was saying these things to make it sound like she was in control.

I know we see Cindy Anthony differently, and I am okay with that. I have always appreciated your opinion on Cindy Anthony and her behavior, but I disagree again. Cindy Anthony is not this little woman who is trying to act tough. This is a woman who made nasty threats via phone message to Tim Miller and John Allen... two men who were doing everything in their power to find Caylee for Cindy. This is a woman who had "waged war" against anyone who tried to help search for Caylee. My God, just go back and listen to some of her earlier interviews with the media... and the way she treated the very people who were trying to help her find Caylee.

I think the Anthony's have known the truth for quite some time and they have personally been okay with that truth for a long time now. I have always thought that Cindy has forgiven Casey... that since Cindy has forgiven Casey that everyone else should mind their own business and let her deal with Casey the way she always has. This is a woman who admits that she would have waited to call 911 to report Caylee missing if she knew then what she knows now. I always knew that if Cindy had time to calm down that day... and given Casey one more day... we would have never known about Caylee Marie Anthony. This is evident by Cindy stating "I already sent my people out there and they didn't find anything."

Their problem is that they do know the truth and their anger and complete disrespect for the law comes from them knowing that truth. Their problem and the reason they are so angry and combative is because they don't want anyone else to know the truth.

I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony played a significant role is "sending" Dominic Casey into those woods to find Caylee. You have to look deeper into those emails to see that either the day before or a few days before, Dominic Casey sent Luke, and by way of Luke to Ginette, a map of the Suburban location with a thumbscrew in the woods on Suburban Drive. DC states that he got a call at the location from Ginette Lucas and he was freaked out because he was already there. So he was already at this location, by his own admission, before Ginette Lucas even "led" him there. He also states in his emails that he lied about being out there because of the Kiomarie tip... so then you have to ask yourself... if he was not out there because Kiomarie's statement led him out there... and he didn't get a phone call from Ginette Lucas until he was actually out there... you have to then ask yourself... what brought him out there in the first place?? I think we have that answer and her name is Cindy Marie Anthony.

I don't want to get embroiled in the same old same old about CA and her "control" but I gotta ask you. If the stats say mother's who kill their children dispose of them either in their home or close to it, and you looked at a map of the area of the Anthony home, where would you look for a body?

CA may very well have sent him, but if she did, he is already as dumb as a post, and so are the psychics he was dealing with. Ginette should have been able to spot that location with her first glance at a google map.

 

[logicalgirl]

I have a hard time believing that Cindy Anthony played a minimal role in anything starting in July 2008. Just because we don't see her in those emails doesn't mean that she did not have a very significant role in Dominic Casey going out into those woods in November 2008. This is a woman who thought her house was bugged (it may have been?) and she had to realize that by writing emails, that LE could retrieve them... she had learned a thing or two from them taking their computers before. I am sure that a lot of the contact that Cindy Anthony had with Dominic Casey was in person.

Cindy would also never allow someone else to be in control when it came to her family, so I don't agree that she was saying these things to make it sound like she was in control.

I know we see Cindy Anthony differently, and I am okay with that. I have always appreciated your opinion on Cindy Anthony and her behavior, but I disagree again. Cindy Anthony is not this little woman who is trying to act tough. This is a woman who made nasty threats via phone message to Tim Miller and John Allen... two men who were doing everything in their power to find Caylee for Cindy. This is a woman who had "waged war" against anyone who tried to help search for Caylee. My God, just go back and listen to some of her earlier interviews with the media... and the way she treated the very people who were trying to help her find Caylee.

I think the Anthony's have known the truth for quite some time and they have personally been okay with that truth for a long time now. I have always thought that Cindy has forgiven Casey... that since Cindy has forgiven Casey that everyone else should mind their own business and let her deal with Casey the way she always has. This is a woman who admits that she would have waited to call 911 to report Caylee missing if she knew then what she knows now. I always knew that if Cindy had time to calm down that day... and given Casey one more day... we would have never known about Caylee Marie Anthony. This is evident by Cindy stating "I already sent my people out there and they didn't find anything."

Their problem is that they do know the truth and their anger and complete disrespect for the law comes from them knowing that truth. Their problem and the reason they are so angry and combative is because they don't want anyone else to know the truth.

I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony played a significant role is "sending" Dominic Casey into those woods to find Caylee. You have to look deeper into those emails to see that either the day before or a few days before, Dominic Casey sent Luke, and by way of Luke to Ginette, a map of the Suburban location with a thumbscrew in the woods on Suburban Drive. DC states that he got a call at the location from Ginette Lucas and he was freaked out because he was already there. So he was already at this location, by his own admission, before Ginette Lucas even "led" him there. He also states in his emails that he lied about being out there because of the Kiomarie tip... so then you have to ask yourself... if he was not out there because Kiomarie's statement led him out there... and he didn't get a phone call from Ginette Lucas until he was actually out there... you have to then ask yourself... what brought him out there in the first place?? I think we have that answer and her name is Cindy Marie Anthony.

BBM and yes, I agree with you, especially if I insert the words "a dead" into the sentence waged war against anyone who searched for (a dead) Caylee.

Beyond that, and even with that, there is no excuse for her behavior - mad with grief included.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I don't want to get embroiled in the same old same old about CA and her "control" but I gotta ask you. If the stats say mother's who kill their children dispose of them either in their home or close to it, and you looked at a map of the area of the Anthony home, where would you look for a body?

CA may very well have sent him, but if she did, he is already as dumb as a post, and so are the psychics he was dealing with. Ginette should have been able to spot that location with her first glance at a google map.

:floorlaugh: Is that a question? Yes, DC was very foolish to be out in those woods and doing the things that he was doing. I think every single person that the Anthony family came in contact with was used by them. I believe the Anthony family used Dominic Casey and these "psychics" to do their dirty work for them, but they are just at foolish as them because they didn't hide it very well.

As for the stats of where mothers who murder their children place the deceased child close to home (or at the home), I do not think the Anthony family was smart enough to look into that? They sent their own P.I. out into the woods where Caylee was... a man that could be directly linked back to them. A man who took photographs and I believe 100% that he knew Jim Hoover was recording the whole event. I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony was shown photographs and possibly even the video footage prior to December 11th, 2008. That's just me though?

I think every single person who latched onto the Anthony family is foolish... and I think the Anthony family is foolish for thinking they could get away with everything that they did and are still doing? I think we can fully expect to see some sort of charges for them down the line... even if it is just perjury? I think more along the lines of obstruction of justice and tampering, but again, that is just me?

 

[logicalgirl]

:floorlaugh: Is that a question? Yes, DC was very foolish to be out in those woods and doing the things that he was doing. I think every single person that the Anthony family came in contact with was used by them. I believe the Anthony family used Dominic Casey and these "psychics" to do their dirty work for them, but they are just at foolish as them because they didn't hide it very well.

As for the stats of where mothers who murder their children place the deceased child close to home (or at the home), I do not think the Anthony family was smart enough to look into that? They sent their own P.I. out into the woods where Caylee was... a man that could be directly linked back to them. A man who took photographs and I believe 100% that he knew Jim Hoover was recording the whole event. I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony was shown photographs and possibly even the video footage prior to December 11th, 2008. That's just me though?



I think every single person who latched onto the Anthony family is foolish... and I think the Anthony family is foolish for thinking they could get away with everything that they did and are still doing? I think we can fully expect to see some sort of charges for them down the line... even if it is just perjury? I think more along the lines of obstruction of justice and tampering, but again, that is just me?

I guess that wasn't exactly a question was it! :great: I just don't know for sure who was leading who in this mess and will be very glad to finally get whatever or whoever it is confirmed. If this wasn't so tragic and sad - DC and those physics could very well have been a Saturday Night Live "how to be a PI" skit.

Nevertheless, yes, I hope we see some charges for something for them. Even indescribable grief does not give them that much of a "free pass" IMO.

 

[Gma Kat]

I have a hard time believing that Cindy Anthony played a minimal role in anything starting in July 2008. Just because we don't see her in those emails doesn't mean that she did not have a very significant role in Dominic Casey going out into those woods in November 2008. This is a woman who thought her house was bugged (it may have been?) and she had to realize that by writing emails, that LE could retrieve them... she had learned a thing or two from them taking their computers before. I am sure that a lot of the contact that Cindy Anthony had with Dominic Casey was in person.

Cindy would also never allow someone else to be in control when it came to her family, so I don't agree that she was saying these things to make it sound like she was in control.

I know we see Cindy Anthony differently, and I am okay with that. I have always appreciated your opinion on Cindy Anthony and her behavior, but I disagree again. Cindy Anthony is not this little woman who is trying to act tough. This is a woman who made nasty threats via phone message to Tim Miller and John Allen... two men who were doing everything in their power to find Caylee for Cindy. This is a woman who had "waged war" against anyone who tried to help search for Caylee. My God, just go back and listen to some of her earlier interviews with the media... and the way she treated the very people who were trying to help her find Caylee.

I think the Anthony's have known the truth for quite some time and they have personally been okay with that truth for a long time now. I have always thought that Cindy has forgiven Casey... that since Cindy has forgiven Casey that everyone else should mind their own business and let her deal with Casey the way she always has. This is a woman who admits that she would have waited to call 911 to report Caylee missing if she knew then what she knows now. I always knew that if Cindy had time to calm down that day... and given Casey one more day... we would have never known about Caylee Marie Anthony. This is evident by Cindy stating "I already sent my people out there and they didn't find anything."

Their problem is that they do know the truth and their anger and complete disrespect for the law comes from them knowing that truth. Their problem and the reason they are so angry and combative is because they don't want anyone else to know the truth.

I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony played a significant role is "sending" Dominic Casey into those woods to find Caylee. You have to look deeper into those emails to see that either the day before or a few days before, Dominic Casey sent Luke, and by way of Luke to Ginette, a map of the Suburban location with a thumbscrew in the woods on Suburban Drive. DC states that he got a call at the location from Ginette Lucas and he was freaked out because he was already there. So he was already at this location, by his own admission, before Ginette Lucas even "led" him there. He also states in his emails that he lied about being out there because of the Kiomarie tip... so then you have to ask yourself... if he was not out there because Kiomarie's statement led him out there... and he didn't get a phone call from Ginette Lucas until he was actually out there... you have to then ask yourself... what brought him out there in the first place?? I think we have that answer and her name is Cindy Marie Anthony.

RE BBM: I posted this exact sentiment shortly after this story broke, boy did I get flack for it back then, but sadly I believe it to be true. I think their behavior has more than reinforced that opinion....

 

[logicalgirl]

I have a hard time believing that Cindy Anthony played a minimal role in anything starting in July 2008. Just because we don't see her in those emails doesn't mean that she did not have a very significant role in Dominic Casey going out into those woods in November 2008. This is a woman who thought her house was bugged (it may have been?) and she had to realize that by writing emails, that LE could retrieve them... she had learned a thing or two from them taking their computers before. I am sure that a lot of the contact that Cindy Anthony had with Dominic Casey was in person.

Cindy would also never allow someone else to be in control when it came to her family, so I don't agree that she was saying these things to make it sound like she was in control.

I know we see Cindy Anthony differently, and I am okay with that. I have always appreciated your opinion on Cindy Anthony and her behavior, but I disagree again. Cindy Anthony is not this little woman who is trying to act tough. This is a woman who made nasty threats via phone message to Tim Miller and John Allen... two men who were doing everything in their power to find Caylee for Cindy. This is a woman who had "waged war" against anyone who tried to help search for Caylee. My God, just go back and listen to some of her earlier interviews with the media... and the way she treated the very people who were trying to help her find Caylee.

I think the Anthony's have known the truth for quite some time and they have personally been okay with that truth for a long time now. I have always thought that Cindy has forgiven Casey... that since Cindy has forgiven Casey that everyone else should mind their own business and let her deal with Casey the way she always has. This is a woman who admits that she would have waited to call 911 to report Caylee missing if she knew then what she knows now. I always knew that if Cindy had time to calm down that day... and given Casey one more day... we would have never known about Caylee Marie Anthony. This is evident by Cindy stating "I already sent my people out there and they didn't find anything."

Their problem is that they do know the truth and their anger and complete disrespect for the law comes from them knowing that truth. Their problem and the reason they are so angry and combative is because they don't want anyone else to know the truth.

I believe 100% that Cindy Anthony played a significant role is "sending" Dominic Casey into those woods to find Caylee. You have to look deeper into those emails to see that either the day before or a few days before, Dominic Casey sent Luke, and by way of Luke to Ginette, a map of the Suburban location with a thumbscrew in the woods on Suburban Drive. DC states that he got a call at the location from Ginette Lucas and he was freaked out because he was already there. So he was already at this location, by his own admission, before Ginette Lucas even "led" him there. He also states in his emails that he lied about being out there because of the Kiomarie tip... so then you have to ask yourself... if he was not out there because Kiomarie's statement led him out there... and he didn't get a phone call from Ginette Lucas until he was actually out there... you have to then ask yourself... what brought him out there in the first place?? I think we have that answer and her name is Cindy Marie Anthony.

BBM - the thing for me is that Roy Kronk went three times into those same woods - and why was he there - in that spot? Nobody sent him there but didn't the defense try to say he had prior knowledge? Over and over again? They practically tarred and feathered him by the time HHJP say no way Jose.

We don't ask what Mr. Kronk was doing there. We know Mr. Kronk had been a bounty hunter in a previous life, and since he was working in that area and driven to find Caylee, those woods were the most obvious place her body could have been placed. Mr. Kronk was in the woods twice and called LE long before DC was and these calls were publicized.

But we do question why DC was there and we go even further and say Cindy and only Cindy sent him there. :waitasec:

Is it because Mr. Kronk is an honorable person and CA has proven herself not to be? And before anyone rushes in to say WTH, I'm not saying she didn't - it is just a bump in the logic of my assumptions.

I want this clarified at trial, because while CA may very well have sent him, I think DC was basically a patsy doing the bidding of a couple of unscrupulous people masquerading as physics and looking for their own 15 minutes of fame.

 

[logicalgirl]

AND - must add before anyone misunderstands what I was trying to say in my post just above - I was not trying to de-hero Mr. Kronk by any means at all.

He is a hero in my mind and always will be. :rocker: What he suffered at the hands of the defense as they attempted to blacken his character is deplorable! Innocent people should not have to suffer innuendoes regarding their character and background because they are good Samaritans.

This has got to change! :banghead: I get just as mad as spit when I even think about it.

 

[faefrost]

I've watched this tape a million times and I get madder and madder each time. All I will say is that DC was extremely close... too close! No doubt in my mind that he was stepping all over Caylee... moving her tiny bones... pushing them deeper and deeper into the ground. I am sure if DC did what any reasonable person would do, when he found that baby blanket, and called 911 (again someone not calling 911) they might have even found bone fragments on the bottom of his shoes.

There is nothing DC can ever say that would make me feel okay with him not calling LE when he went out there, not once, not twice, but three times. He knew she was out there. He knew!! To see him treat the scene so carelessly makes me even madder! What if Caylee had been in one of those black trash bags?? Does he think that poking and slashing in those bags is the right thing to do? Does he know that he could have damaged evidence (I personally think that is what he went out there to do anyways)?

If anyone tampered with that scene on Suburban Drive, it was Dominic Casey. Why isn't the defense going after DC? There is even video! If they wanted to... they could blame it all on Cindy and George. Say that they knew where Caylee's remains were... that only the killer would know where the remains were. Cindy and George have admitted that they have not spoken with Casey since 0ct. 14th, 2008.... we all know there have been letters passed back and forth, but George denies this on the stand... I don't remember what Cindy said? I think the only problem they have with going in this direction is because Dominic Casey knows too much!

This trial can not get here fast enough!

Very simple. DC was the hireling of KC and JB. Any focus on him leads straight back to the mother of the year and her lawyer. There is no way around that. In fact as soon as the defense starts in with the "somebody must have tampered with and moved the body" routine all the state has to do is whip out the DC tape and show who was there. I don't think even JB is clueless enough to argue in that direction.

 

[logicalgirl]

Very simple. DC was the hireling of KC and JB. Any focus on him leads straight back to the mother of the year and her lawyer. There is no way around that. In fact as soon as the defense starts in with the "somebody must have tampered with and moved the body" routine all the state has to do is whip out the DC tape and show who was there. I don't think even JB is clueless enough to argue in that direction.

I agree with you re DC being the hireling of ICA and JB. And I was as anxious or even more so to read his deposition - which turned into being an investigative deposition.

THEN I read his emails between the psychics and himself. I have never in my life read such drivel. And these emails were after his employment with JB/ICA. I don't believe for one moment JB would trust CA with any information from ICA or any information that might he suspected might incriminate ICA - this was before Caylee's remains were found and he was still very busy being a star. In fact I think JB trusts no one.

So taking those thoughts further, I don't believe JB sent him out there, nor do I believe ICA gave JB information to pass on to CA/DC and won't until I hear it from DC's lips on a witness stand. I think DC has disappeared from our view because he is a nothing in this case. He brought nothing, he accomplished nothing except his terrified search we saw in the video with that disgusting slashing of anything close to him. I think he was just a silly pawn in the so-called psychics play/attempt at being "famous" for 15 minutes.

 

[logicalgirl]

And I just realized that I should probably get off the board and stay off the board tonight. :furious:

I am just getting so grumpy with all the nonsense that clutters up what is essentially a pretty straightforward crime. A mother who killed her 2.5 year old daughter - deliberately and with cruelty. ullhair: :argue:

I want Lady Justice to get busy moving forward and get Justice For Caylee over with and done.

And so....fftobed:

 

[LolaMoon08]

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BBM - the thing for me is that Roy Kronk went three times into those same woods - and why was he there - in that spot? Nobody sent him there but didn't the defense try to say he had prior knowledge? Over and over again? They practically tarred and feathered him by the time HHJP say no way Jose.

We don't ask what Mr. Kronk was doing there. We know Mr. Kronk had been a bounty hunter in a previous life, and since he was working in that area and driven to find Caylee, those woods were the most obvious place her body could have been placed. Mr. Kronk was in the woods twice and called LE long before DC was and these calls were publicized.

But we do question why DC was there and we go even further and say Cindy and only Cindy sent him there. :waitasec:

Is it because Mr. Kronk is an honorable person and CA has proven herself not to be? And before anyone rushes in to say WTH, I'm not saying she didn't - it is just a bump in the logic of my assumptions.

I want this clarified at trial, because while CA may very well have sent him, I think DC was basically a patsy doing the bidding of a couple of unscrupulous people masquerading as physics and looking for their own 15 minutes of fame.

I think the reasoning for the differences between DC and RK both being in that location is simple. Dominic Casey has direct ties to the Anthony family and the Anthony home. Evidence found at the scene of the crime leads directly back to the Anthony home. It is Casey Anthony's car that smelled like a damn dead body. Evidence suggests that Caylee Anthony was in the trunk of that car.

Until someone gives me evidence to suggest that Roy Kronk had access to not only the Anthony home, but access to Casey's car, I think it is unfair to put him in the same category as Dominic Casey.

Oh, and one thing that seperates Roy Kronk from Dominic Casey is the fact that Roy Kronk called LE (directly or through a tip line)... not once, not twice, not three times, but FOUR times. Each time he was out there. Dominic Casey didn't call once even though he knew she was out there and even if he didn't know for sure (if we are to believe it came from psychics) there was evidence that she was there... and he left her out there. Jim Hoover is just as bad for not calling LE when he should have.

Another thing that makes me believe that Cindy Anthony sent DC out there is because she lied in her State deposition about it and Lee told the truth about it in his State deposition. She obviously had something to hide by lying about it.

I also hope that this is clarified at trial. I have to assume that DC holds some very dark secrets and that is the reason Cindy seems to be so upset with him. Cindy only feels betrayed when someone outs her... and it is my opinion that DC had no other choice, but to out her.

Logicalgirl, you do make me stop and think and that is what I love about your posts. I can't wait to watch this trial and hopefully we will walk away from this will a lot of our questions answered. I know we will never know the full truth of what happened to Caylee (the one person who does know will never tell), but we can hopefully get some answers as to other questions that have bothered us for almost three years.

ETA: The question of just what took DC out into those woods off Suburban Drive included.

 

[Baxter]

IMO As the trial gets closer, it seems the defense has returned on the boards, creating doubt.

 

[cuppy199]

IMO As the trial gets closer, it seems the defense has returned on the boards, creating doubt.

I wouldn't worry about that. Doesnt matter if they create doubt on the boards its in the court room that matters. The jury wont be as easy to fool and the judge wont let them spin things the way they have outside the court room. As for the DC IMO there is no way he could not of known or even been that close to Caylee body without inside knowledge and I personally dont believe the psychic lend him there. She might of help some but not to extent DC would of like us to believe. Also IMO DC was very infatuated with Cindy it seems to me he would of done about anything for her. Whether it was coming from Cindy or someone else Im not quite sure of. Kronk was just the person who found Caylee and try to do the right thing. JMO