2010.02.10 - 2010.03.15 ~Robyn Adams's Transcript

  • #61
We don't just have Robyn's word that Casey responsed differently to televised reports that bones were found in the river than she did when she heard bones were found on Suburban. Released discovery of prison employee interviews report that Casey became flushed, doubled over and asked for a sedative when she heard about the body on Suburban. When bones were found in the river by divers she didn't even stay in the room to watch the television. IIRC, a jail employee leaked to the media that Casey said, it's not her, when it was being reported that the diver found fingers.
 
  • #62
An earlier post made me wonder about the rules governing postal correspondence in and out of the jails. I mistakenly assumed that although letters might be scanned for contraband, the handwritten content was confidential. Not so!

Unless the outgoing mail is specifically designated as privileged, the corrections officers/staff are directed* to "open and inspect" it to determine if threats, codes, escape plans, etc. are contained therein.

So...Robyn's letters weren't inspected at all, or they were given only a cursory glance, or it was known what she was mailing to outsiders and it wasn't deemed important, or it was known what she was mailing to outsiders and she was allowed it as a favor. Interesting.


*see Section 9.03 of attached .doc file: Florida Model Jail Standards; effective 1.01.2010, found HERE
 

Attachments

  • #63
We don't just have Robyn's word that Casey responsed differently to televised reports that bones were found in the river than she did when she heard bones were found on Suburban. Released discovery of prison employee interviews report that Casey became flushed, doubled over and asked for a sedative when she heard about the body on Suburban. When bones were found in the river by divers she didn't even stay in the room to watch the television. IIRC, a jail employee leaked to the media that Casey said, it's not her, when it was being reported that the diver found fingers.

Yep! We heard about the different reactions a long time ago. NG used to harp on it. R's statement rings true to me. The way she cries all the time...the article says she wept in court. Her mug shot shows her eyes almost swollen shut. Some of these things that are corroborated strenghten it. I don't know...my hinky meter is on super high with the other one but I tend to believe this girl.
 
  • #64
In real court, do they ask inmates what consideration they were given for their testimony? Because Robyn can honestly reply "nothing". And the police who took her testimony felt she was being forthright. Good enough for me - I say bring her to court and let her testify.

I believe her and so will the Jury because being know as a snitch or a rat in jail can get you killed.It is not a label anyone would want esp when it will not help her case.She has years to be in prison this could cause a fellow inmate to kill her.
 
  • #65
Robyn was allowed to cut Caseys hair?!

But they are afraid to put in her general pop... :waitasec:
 
  • #66
To add to Robin's testimony, we have the jail house video of Casey's reaction when she saw the TV coverage of the remains being found. We also have CO's that will testify to her drastic change in mood at that time. Also, we have Casey's reaction on the Blanchard Park find...she was not worried a bit.

To add, Robin did not volunteer her information to LE as Maya did, and reluctantly told them about the jail communications, after they came to visit her.

The jurors will know what Robin is serving time for, but they will also take these other factors into consideration. The letters from Casey to Robin prove that there was a jail relationship which lasted quite a while. Casey's letters and handwriting will prove that.

I doubt the federal prison system will give Robin a reduced sentence based on her cooperation, this the jury will weigh as well.
 
  • #67
  • #68
  • #69
Humm, I spoke too soon.

Not at all, that article is based on opinion and your argument is equally valid. I found out yesterday that the media gets things wrong sometimes :angel:
 
  • #70
LE uses informants all the time. Informants are also considered snitches. Street snitches. I personally don't like the practice for many reasons, but I won't get into that here.

I don't know if I believe Robyn (about the chloroform) or not? I want to... but, I have seen way too many informants lie on the stand in order to protect themselves and their interests.

Robyn, like Casey, seemed to have no remorse for the crimes she commited. I do believe she misses her kids tremendously... but, she should have thought about that before she commited the crimes that she did. I'm so tired of these parents thinking about their kids AFTER they have been caught. She does not impress me AT ALL.

I don't know how much credit juries give testimony for people like Robyn. I'm sure, like with any informant (jail snitch or whatever they call them), a jury has it in the back of their mind that these people could be lying for their own benefit? I don't really think her testimony is needed in order to convict Casey either, so it doesn't really matter to me.
 
  • #71
Well, if the case was only depending on jail house snitches they would be in trouble. Thankfully, there is much more to rely on in the prosecution of Casey Anthony. I wonder if the state will even call these inmates.
 
  • #72
Humm, I spoke too soon.

COULD - as opposed to will.

Pointing out this was not a promise or even a thought in the room when she gave her testimony.
 
  • #73
Well, if the case was only depending on jail house snitches they would be in trouble. Thankfully, there is much more to rely on in the prosecution of Casey Anthony. I wonder if the state will even call these inmates.

Exactly. As with any case built primarily on circumstantial evidence, it is the compilation of evidence that supports the SA's theory. Consider the computer searches for chloroform, the forensics, the photo, the syringe (?)...gosh, can't even recall what else. The point I am trying to make here is that CASEY's prior actions are the very things that help give credence to Robyn's testimony. Heh, no prosecutor loves having to put a convicted felon on the stand in hopes that the jury will believe them. However, evidence doesn't always come wrapped up in a package with a pretty little bow. It all depends on how she comes across on the stand. Just reading the report where the investigator opined her to be truthful and considering her reluctance to turn over the letters....even, forcing a 2nd interview where she could have her own attorney present, I am open-minded to think she just may come across as a credible witness. Who knows? IF the SA opts to put her on the stand, it will only be to bolster the evidence they already have. I am sure there will be some jurors who will disregard her testimony and probably others who might believe her.
 
  • #74
I'm just now reading cookie's transcript. when I read the supplemental report the other night re: the blanket in bag I thought maybe cookie had her memories mixed, ie what she knows now with what she was told then but I dont think that's the case.

she hasnt kept up w/ the case, she referred to Kronk as "a meter reader or power guy or something" so when asked if anything was in the bag she said "a blanket" so I think she was indeed told this by KC at that time, before the info was released -

she must have truly realised the game was up, for the first time in her whole life, to have let that slip.

too bad she wasnt jittery enough to confess.
 
  • #75
I'm just now reading cookie's transcript. when I read the supplemental report the other night re: the blanket in bag I thought maybe cookie had her memories mixed, ie what she knows now with what she was told then but I dont think that's the case.

she hasnt kept up w/ the case, she referred to Kronk as "a meter reader or power guy or something" so when asked if anything was in the bag she said "a blanket" so I think she was indeed told this by KC at that time, before the info was released -

she must have truly realised the game was up, for the first time in her whole life, to have let that slip.

too bad she wasnt jittery enough to confess.[/

There was mention of a guy from the power co hanging around the house. I don't remember where I read about him, but it was months ago that I did read about him. It wasn't Kronk who they were talking about.

sorry I messed this up!
 
  • #76
I'm just now reading cookie's transcript. when I read the supplemental report the other night re: the blanket in bag I thought maybe cookie had her memories mixed, ie what she knows now with what she was told then but I dont think that's the case.

she hasnt kept up w/ the case, she referred to Kronk as "a meter reader or power guy or something" so when asked if anything was in the bag she said "a blanket" so I think she was indeed told this by KC at that time, before the info was released -

she must have truly realised the game was up, for the first time in her whole life, to have let that slip.

too bad she wasnt jittery enough to confess.

When RA tells LE that she has told them 75% of everything she knows about KC and how she is really worried about her family on the outside and she actually goes so far as to PROTECT a CO officer on the inside who obviously let KC and and RA be together face to face - SHE BECAME creditble to me.

If you are simply a jailhouse snitch and you want to give good information so as to reduce your sentence - you don't give LE ONLY 75% and you don't refrain from out right calling the person killer on record and further you don't protect anyone but yourself.

Now I just read this enteire thing and I don't believe RA outright said KC used chloroform to knock out Caylee as has been reported everywhere - she says she used antihistamenes? Am I wrong?
 
  • #77
Now I just read this enteire thing and I don't believe RA outright said KC used chloroform to knock out Caylee as has been reported everywhere - she says she used antihistamenes? Am I wrong?

--respectfully snipped

Agreed, I only saw the reference to antihistamines. I never saw the word chloroform anywhere. However, I believe the big hoopla over the chloroform is because she testified to that during her interview with the investigators.
 
  • #78
Hope this post belongs here - I've not read the transcript yet but have read through page 300 in Part 1 of letters (Wesh). Around pg. 275 the pages begin to duplicate earlier pages. I needed a break so I'm posting the following observations ~

Robyn wrote her friend, Tracy, and assured her that she was her bf and that she was only befriending KC for the purpose of getting the goods on her so she might be able to get her own sentence reduced from the mandatory ten year sentence.

KC proceeded to respond/write letters proclaiming true friendship and everlasting support while they exchanged Bible verses and encouragement to one another.

Robyn writes in a letter how betrayal has landed her in the spot she is in and how she is grateful that she is the betrayed and not the betrayer :waitasec: ~ anybody else see anything wrong with this picture?

KC forgot her 'trust nobody but yourself' message.

Robyn had a motive for writing/befriending KC - a selfserving motive. Her motive was to get the goods on KC. That is clearly stated in a letter Robyn wrote Tracy.

I want to know the truth about what happened to Caylee as much as anybody else does but I'm not sure I can trust what Robyn has to say because she too is interested mainly in herself.

I disagree. Actually, at first Robyn simply thought she had someone on her hands who needed uplifting like she did. She mentions this more than once in the early notes. The perp played on that.

It's only later that Robyn begins to realise how "HUGE" this case is and then begins to wonder if perhaps the letters may be of value. However, she clearly has a crisis of conscience about it when she writes:

I'm so upset that they took Casey away, she was indeed my only white friend and we kept each other lifted up in spirits so often.....

I have to get rid of these notes from Casey so she doesn't get in trouble. Do you think one day they'll be worth anything? Maybe a sport on the Today Show or Oprah if anything comes of it, who knows, I am her friend here but that might be like betrayal but I don't want that. ~ Discovery page 13645
Moreover, Robyn was approached by LE. Robyn was hesitant to "betray". IMO, all she wanted at the beginning was someone to talk to- there were only the two of them in that block. Even Silvia Hernandez validates this in her own deposition and describes in detail Robyn's depression and daily tears over being torn from her kids.
 
  • #79
--respectfully snipped

Agreed, I only saw the reference to antihistamines. I never saw the word chloroform anywhere. However, I believe the big hoopla over the chloroform is because she testified to that during her interview with the investigators.

but her interview with the investigators is what I read and she mentions chloroform and just that she didn't know what it meant and KC told her it was found in her. She never says CA brought it home to use to knock out caylee because she had issues sleeping. That is what NG was saying but not what RA said to LE.
 
  • #80
--respectfully snipped

Agreed, I only saw the reference to antihistamines. I never saw the word chloroform anywhere. However, I believe the big hoopla over the chloroform is because she testified to that during her interview with the investigators.

I agree. There is no mention of chloroform in the letters, just antihistamines.
 

Members online

Online statistics

Members online
115
Guests online
2,285
Total visitors
2,400

Forum statistics

Threads
632,720
Messages
18,630,930
Members
243,274
Latest member
WickedGlow
Back
Top