2010.03.14 Attorney Richard Hornsby discussing this case

[QB.]

Hold up a minute... was it said Lee found KC a week after Caylee was last seen or was it said he found KC first week of July.... I have my reasons for asking ... thats a big difference. June 22ish or July 3ish???

She said 'roughly a week'.

 

[sleutherontheside]

I kept wondering why the podcast seemed soooooooooooooooo long. Then I realized.......becasue there was a distinct lack of ummmmmmmmm, uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh, errrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr, hmmmmmmmmmm, well you see, why you ask?, buuuuuuuuuu, uhhhhhhhhhh, huh.

There was actual, identifiable, legally accurate content.

I did have to laugh when RH called Rozie a conspiracy theorist. HaHa

 

[QB.]

Lee was deposed by the Mrs. Drane-Burdick, right? Do we have Mallory's yet?

We have never heard from M.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Originally Posted by rhornsby
I have always candidly admitted that I do this for the obvious marketing advantages it provides (lawyer speak for "Free Publicity"). The big difference is that I do not play favorites, nor do I misstate information (at least I try not to), nor do I hide any agenda I may have.

As for Rozzie's statements about Lee, she is referring to a statement Lee Anthony supposedly gave to law enforcement pursuant to a grant of use immunity that his lawyer negotiated. I do not believe this "statement" has been released yet.

If I understood her correctly, she was implying that Lee had confronted Casey a week after Caylee was last seen; thus the family had known for at least three weeks that Caylee was missing. Which would explain why Cindy told Casey "we have given you over a month" to find Caylee.

Thank you so much Mr. Hornsby for your insight!

The part I bolded stands out immediately.

I'd forgotten about the limited use immunity..and it fits into why Jose Baez wants the 911 call suppressed. I always wondered why CA said, I gave you a month, your not getting one more day! Now I know...TY!

If the Anthony's knew Caylee was not in Inmate Anthony's custody a week after they both left the home, will those 911 come into play or will they be kept out? I now understand why Baez stated, it was not exicted utterance since they knew Caylee was missing? In regards to the same calls when CA stated about the smell of death, by then they must have realized something terrible happened since they found Inmate Anthony but no Caylee, can the SA's argue at this point it was excited utterance, for Inmate Anthony has finally admitted, she hadn't seen Caylee since June 16th, 2008???

I guess there are some discovery we have not seen but Baez is privy to...when will those be made public, if you know??

This is just getting so out of hand and is snowballing due to all the "mistruths" surrounding Caylee's demise..poor child. Now this case is resembling a circus side show...all the mistruths, untruths...If you tell the truth the first time, you never have to remember what you said. When you deceive people from the start, no one can be believed after that. I feel so bad for Caylee's memory is being disrespected, dishonored, used to fund her accused killers defense and it makes me ill...:banghead:

 

[Patty G]

I did have to laugh when RH called Rozie a conspiracy theorist. HaHa

She asked for an apology and there wasn't one ... IIRC!

 

[LambChop]

I would think there is a big difference between knowing your granddaughter is missing because your daughter has left her with friends and having your daughter just admit to you the child had been kidnapped. As grandparents we know our children can leave our home with their child and there is nothing we can legally do about it. If Cindy felt something was really wrong a week after KC left home why would she call 911 when KC said Caylee had been kidnapped. That is when I would have wanted to choke the living daylights out of KC to get the truth. I believe CA was buying the story at that exact moment. What would be the point of the 911 call? I think CA thought KC was just being a "Spitefull B*t*h" and that may be why KC said that to Lee. KC may have heard those very words from her mother during those 31 days as CA thinking KC was keeping Caylee from her for revenge. JMO

 

[Cher352]

Originally Posted by rhornsby
As for Rozzie's statements about Lee, she is referring to a statement Lee Anthony supposedly gave to law enforcement pursuant to a grant of use immunity that his lawyer negotiated. I do not believe this "statement" has been released yet.

I am confused...shouldn't that statement have been already turned over to the defense if the state plans on using it?

 

[Macushla]

I would think there is a big difference between knowing your granddaughter is missing because your daughter has left her with friends and having your daughter just admit to you the child had been kidnapped. As grandparents we know our children can leave our home with their child and there is nothing we can legally do about it. If Cindy felt something was really wrong a week after KC left home why would she call 911 when KC said Caylee had been kidnapped. That is when I would have wanted to choke the living daylights out of KC to get the truth. I believe CA was buying the story at that exact moment. What would be the point of the 911 call? I think CA thought KC was just being a "Spitefull B*t*h" and that may be why KC said that to Lee. KC may have heard those very words from her mother during those 31 days as CA thinking KC was keeping Caylee from her for revenge. JMO

If Cindy had called the deputies without any of the drama, saying only that my daughter won't let me see my granddaughter, it is entirely possible nothing would have happened that night. KC had full custody of Caylee and there reallywasn't anything LE could do if she just said to them "I don't want my daughter to be around my mother right now". Given the usual interaction between KC and CA, the deputies might have just rolled their eyes and said, you two work this out. I am not even sure if a welfare check request would have worked. It was CA saying it smells like there was a dead body in the da** car that brought the deputies and the detectives into this. Right up until that day when the car was recovered, I think all the Anthonys thought this was just a tug of war and a battle of wills between KC and CA.

 

[Cher352]

Great Show on Blogtalk!!! I missed it lived but heard the tape.

Thank you Richard for continuing to try to help us understand all this!!

 

[stmarysmead]

If I were Cindy I would have absolutely thought...at least in those first few days...that my daughter was being spiteful and vindictive in keeping Caylee from me. But as her chief babysitter and sole means of support, I would have been confident she could not play that game for long. I'd be certain I could wait her out. I'm sure this scenario had played out before. Cindy held the the trump cards.

But as the days wore on, Cindy's gut must have told her that some dynamic had changed. Power had shifted. The GAME had changed. Something was wrong here...Casey could not be managing without Mom for this long. I think it is this awareness of CHANGE that started to frighten Cindy....then terrify her.

I think she knew Caylee HAD to be "missing" (no mistake in her choice of words) as she said in her Myspace posting...because otherwise her daughter would have long before dumped the baby on her doorstep. She asked "who" was caring for Caylee. She knew Casey well enough to know that she certainly wasn't sitting in some apartment giving full time childcare. Not with her taste for partying, her taste in friends, her lack of money to pay babysitters...not for THIS LONG.

Something was wrong. Something had changed.

But is there any evidence that George was also increasingly worried? I don't doubt that he loved Caylee too.

If not, why not?

Or was he frantic to find her too?

 

[pip]

I hope that Judge Strickland rips the lid off of these financial issues and gets down to the bottom of everything thoroughly. I don't want to see financial mismanagement becoming the crux of Ms. Anthony's appeal. Unfortunately. I am afraid he may pussyfoot around it. I think if the truths are uncovered it would require a removal of Baez et al and maybe he doesn't want to travel down that road. He should though, she should have a public defender as an indigent if Floridians are to be footing the bill.

 

[JBean]

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[sleutherontheside]

So my question is............just how many calls (regarding funding in this case) has JAC received this morning?

Anyone...anyone?

 

[belle3]

i dont know if this is where this belongs but if what this roz person says has some shred of truth to it then wouldnt that coincide with the gas can incident and if that is the case couldnt we use her cell phone pings to determine where she was from the 22nd to say the 26th to see if she was somewhere in the vicinity of a fat tuesdays or tgif on one of those days where lee couldve gotten to her. the gas cans smelling like death would prompt cindy to ask lee for help in finding his sister. on top of the fact that i believe that cindy did see the car at amscot on her way home from work that friday evening, but thats a whole other post.

 

[Macushla]

A question for Mr. Hornsby if he is still 'reading': Can you file a complaint to the Bar about the financial dealings Baez in involved with? If not, is it because there is no definitive 'proof'? I have not listened to the show, but from what has been posted, to me it seems like Steph practically begged someone to put him on the stand so he would 'have to tell'. Everyone keeps saying someone needs to look into this - well, if you, as an attorney, brought this to the attention of even the local bar association, using information from Steph - and it sounded like he wanted to speak out - wouldn't that get an investigation of some sort jump started?

 

[Cher352]

So my question is............just how many calls (regarding funding in this case) has JAC received this morning?

Anyone...anyone?

Here is a link to the JAC:

http://www.justiceadmin.org/contact/index.aspx

ADDRESS:
227 N. Bronough Street
Suite 2100
Tallahassee, FL 32301
Directions to JAC MAILING ADDRESS:

P.O. BOX 1654
Tallahassee, FL 32302

TELEPHONE NUMBER:
1-866-355-7902
850-488-2415

FAX NUMBER:
1-866-355-7906
850-488-8944
850-922-6794

E-MAIL US :

Victoria Montanaro - Executive Director (link on website)

 

[Cher352]

Here is a link to the JAC:

http://www.justiceadmin.org/contact/index.aspx

ADDRESS:
227 N. Bronough Street
Suite 2100
Tallahassee, FL 32301
Directions to JAC MAILING ADDRESS:

P.O. BOX 1654
Tallahassee, FL 32302

TELEPHONE NUMBER:
1-866-355-7902
850-488-2415

FAX NUMBER:
1-866-355-7906
850-488-8944
850-922-6794

E-MAIL US :

Victoria Montanaro - Executive Director (link on website)

I have tried twice to send a email using that email link on the website and got an error each time, guess I will try faxing it.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

---respectfully snipped

You're darn straight, Mr. Hornsby. I have the utmost admiration for Judge Strickland and, though my curious self was disappointed in his decision to seal that hearing, I respected and trusted his decision. Judge Strickland has never given me any reason to doubt his integrity or to believe that he would do anything other than rule fairly according to the law. However, IMHO, claiming indigency status changes everything in re. public's right to know how her defense has been funded to date (insert any Anthony first initial - they're all broke) and how that money has been spent (frivilously? unethically?). KC is basically requesting that Floridia taxpayers give her a 'grant' to pay for her 'professor' of choice without any accountablity. Lord have mercy....that girl has been allowed to dodge responsibility her entire life (sans the lesser-of-all-evils check fraud plea <cough>). Please tell me the State of Florida will rise to the occassion and put an end to the insanity.

Makes me wonder how this doesn't set a precedent for people to blow all their money in the first part of a trial to secure top notch legal representation, and then ask the taxpayers to pay for the rest. It's kind of a setup for all kinds of dishonesty and inherently unfair to people with no resources to begin with.

 

[Trapshooter]

You guys keep teasing me, but that really is going to be the title of my book.

You Just Can't Make This Stuff Up!
At the hearing this week will be hearing the TES motions too? I like this judge, he lets everyone know from minute one the tone for the day.
When someone wants to continue past the argument he wants to hear he says you have got about five minutes to wrap this up,
if they persist ..Judge I will be brief, he assures them..I'll help you do that!
Whenever the defense wants to bring some imagined offense to the judge's attention and they begin ... I feel I must...he just simply and politely says, no..there is no need. Just don't.
I just laugh myself silly. Every once in a while he will look a little puzzled at Mr. Baez and ask if he is still arguing on something he already finished ruling on.
It reminds me of a dad telling a child, no means no, this isn't a democracy, you're the kid and I'm your father, and as long as you live in my house, you will live by my rules. Why? Because I said so!
If I had a dollar for every time I heard that growing up, I could take us all on a tropical vacation, somewhere truly wonderful! The thing is I learned and I grew up, Mr. Baez my father would have mopped the floor with!
My favorite thing this judge said was that he normally likes to "Rule and Roll". Dad would have loved this guy!!!

Now that is ONE book I would seriously buy!!!! Kudos to you The World According!!!! :dance:

 

[Spangle]

How many hours did JB spend babysitting KC and how much did he charge for that??? Knowing the money would run out and he wouldn't be able to afford experts, etc.