2010.03.16 Tommy Croslin wants to take a polygraph test to clear his name.

[lillys]

While Misty and RC were staying with GGS, it is reported that Timmy Croslin
( the brother now in Mass) was making repeated calls to Misty, who wouldn't talk to him or return her families calls. RC actually called police and an officer went and and listened to the phone messages RC saved from Croslin's and a report was made. Anyway, after repeated attempts to contact Misty went unanswered( they said Misty wanted to be picked up, Misty said she didn't) Lisa and Hank sr along with Tommy went on over to talk to Misty and a altercation ensued. The Croslin's took off to the gas station and called police. RC was arrested, bailed out and soon after Misty filed for RO.

:waitasec: Did I know that? lol
Thanks for the information.

 

[Pondering Mind]

Frankly, I believe Tommy only said that in reference to all the "stories" his little sister is "making up" about him, and it has very little to do with Haleigh at all. He knows she's a liar, we know she's a liar, but he'd like LE to know she's a liar about nearly everything she says about him.

We know she tells the truth about him being a thief. Even he admits that. He admits going to GGM's the night of the beatdown to get Misty and admits to the fight which ends up with HIM getting a restraining order against him, he admits having taken some of the drugs found in the van at the bus stop........Tommy seems to always admit to what he's done. He doesn't gloss over his problems, doesn't pretend to be any good at being a .

He admits he had problems with his wife before they got married. He pleaded to the DV charges and took the classes. He admits going to the MH that night and knocking to see if Misty was there. Tommy admits his participation and when it goes too far, he says so.

If Tommy had anything to do with Haleigh's disappearance, I'm pretty sure he'd have to say so, since he seems to be compelled to admit these things. If he had anything to do with "messing with" Misty when they were younger, I'm sure we'd have his side of that story.

Tommy's a drug addict, a pretty bad role model for his children, and a less than stellar husband for his wife, has a problem understanding what's his neighbors' is not his......but I don't think he's a molesting child taker.

debs, ITA! The only time that I can recall that he denied anything was the jail visit with Lindsay regarding the 'break in' when all the odd stuff was stolen, laundry det. and the like. To be honest, even though he didn't do a very good job of lying about it, THAT didn't bother me because even if he did do it, he would be a f@@l to admit anything knowing that he was being recorded. No, I honestly believe that he is fast becoming Misty's scapegoat for HaLeigh's disappearance and while he obviously has his own demons to deal with I don't believe that he had anything to do with HaLeigh, speaking for myself..He has to realize what she's doing by now and I'd bet the family is figuring it out too. She keeps saying that she can stand prison as long as her family visits and sends money ..if she keeps this charade up, especially while trying to throw her brother under the bus, she may very well cause her family to turn their back on her....she NEEDS someone to knock some sense into her head IMHO...and the redneck in me would be more than happy to volunteer..

 

[Pondering Mind]

Hi elle, I'm so glad to see you back! I didn't realize that LE had offered a polygraph to Tommy. Did they request one and he refused or how did that offer come about?

 

[Baxter]

:waitasec: Did I know that? lol
Thanks for the information.

They were two separate events. See previous posts.

 

[dodie20]

Early in this case, it was reported that Tommy had been @ the trailer that day, smoking pot with Misty. He later admitted that he was also there that night. He should've been given polygraphs @ both times. Seriously, has he not taken one? Does he now want to take one because of the drug bust, his burglaries, or because of Haleigh?

 

[txsvicki]

Maybe Tommy refused to take a polygraph before now. IMO, he must not be able to prove his whereabouts and timeline that night or he'd have no reason to take one. It seems to me that the fights and RO were about Misty telling something and the whole family was calling and calling then coming by to force the issue. I don't call an adult male who has been accused of messing with his child sister, hit his wife, smokes weed around children, get addicted, steals, steals with his mamma, does dope deals, and wanders neighborhoods at night above reproach or any better than a teen girl when there's a child missing.

 

[twall]

BBM

I don't recall her saying her mother hit her at the time of everything happening, but in the dockets:

FTR: Ron's arrest for the incident (with the Croslins at GGM's) was on August 6th, 2009. Not sure what to make of that since Lisa's complaint was from the day prior to Ronald's arrest?

I want to point out that on the PCSO booking log Ron's booking time is 1:03:59 am 8-6-2009 but the incident occured on 8-5-2009 late at night so imo it is very possible Misty filed the complaint against her mother for an incident that happened on 8-5. There are often hours between the arrest and booking times, more than likely depending on how busy the jail is or if the arrestee is being questioned before booked.

http://public.pcso.us/jail/bookingDetails.aspx?SYSID=755689&IMG=49930

ETA-From the police report

Deputy Nicole Quintiere made the following report concerning an incident that took place 8/5/09 at about 11:30 pm

 

[Crosby87]

What changed Lisa Croslin's mind about Misty?

http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tamp...ppearance-Mistys-mom-dad-and-aunt-speak-video

ladonna, this news article contains “Bombshell” information IMO!!!!

I was aware Lisa thought M & R are holding something back, etc., of several phone calls between Timmy and Misty, the fight between Ron and Misty, that Ron couldn’t reach Misty on the phone after 8:30 pm, and Tommy’s allegation that when he went to check on his sister, no one was home BUT I had no idea Lindsy doubts Misty was home at the time Haleigh went missing and that Misty Croslin’s father doesn’t believe that she was home at the time of HaLeigh’s disappearance either. Thank you for posting this article.

 

[Crosby87]

debs, ITA! The only time that I can recall that he denied anything was the jail visit with Lindsay regarding the 'break in' when all the odd stuff was stolen, laundry det. and the like. To be honest, even though he didn't do a very good job of lying about it, THAT didn't bother me because even if he did do it, he would be a f@@l to admit anything knowing that he was being recorded. No, I honestly believe that he is fast becoming Misty's scapegoat for HaLeigh's disappearance and while he obviously has his own demons to deal with I don't believe that he had anything to do with HaLeigh, speaking for myself..He has to realize what she's doing by now and I'd bet the family is figuring it out too. She keeps saying that she can stand prison as long as her family visits and sends money ..if she keeps this charade up, especially while trying to throw her brother under the bus, she may very well cause her family to turn their back on her....she NEEDS someone to knock some sense into her head IMHO...and the redneck in me would be more than happy to volunteer..

Misty claims Tommy attempted to contact her throughout the day and when she returned his phone call in the evening, he said he just had to see and went to gamma's house despite her warning him not to. In this he said, she said situation, I believe Tommy is telling the truth that Misty was the one who contacted him to come and get her because she wanted to leave Ronald OR Tommy would have come alone without their parents.

 

[lil momma]

I think it is good that Tommy wants to clear his name.


I think LE wasn't onto the Croslins in the beginning like they have been for the past 6-8 months. I don't think any of the Croslin's (other than Misty) were offered a poly in the beginning, i think primarily the ones closest to HaLeigh were offered. (i could be wrong)

 

[elle1919]

Hi elle, I'm so glad to see you back! I didn't realize that LE had offered a polygraph to Tommy. Did they request one and he refused or how did that offer come about?

Hey PM....I have been back for months...lol...I was wondering where you had run off to though, good to see you as well.

We know that Law Enforcement offered everyone they interviewed in the disappearance of Haleigh a lie detector test because they announced it numerous times when asked by the media who had taken a polygraph in this case. They said everyone was offered one but they would not comment on who accepted or what the results were.

 

[TXangel]

What changed Lisa Croslin's mind about Misty?

http://www.examiner.com/x-7403-Tamp...ppearance-Mistys-mom-dad-and-aunt-speak-video

Well, since it was written after the big restraining order deal, and the interview looks to have taken place in between the fight and the article, it could have been that. It just seems to me that Lisa will be loyal to whichever of her children is being loyal to her and at that time, Misty wasn't.

I still think that if Tommy takes a lie detector test and passes there will be people who will think he's flat out lying. JMO.

 

[elle1919]

Well, since it was written after the big restraining order deal, and the interview looks to have taken place in between the fight and the article, it could have been that. It just seems to me that Lisa will be loyal to whichever of her children is being loyal to her and at that time, Misty wasn't.

I still think that if Tommy takes a lie detector test and passes there will be people who will think he's flat out lying. JMO.

I would love for him to take a LDT administered by Law Enforcement and if they came out and stated that they were "satisfied" then I would love nothing more than to hear it and cross him off my list as to being involved in the Haleigh's disappearance.

 

[TXangel]

I would love for him to take a LDT administered by Law Enforcement and if they came out and stated that they were "satisfied" then I would love nothing more than to hear it and cross him off my list as to being involved in the Haleigh's disappearance.

I agree.

 

[ilovemew]

Seems that since Feb. 10. 2009 it has become all about Misty. I think she is enjoying her noteriety.

OMG!! Her mom clips the newspaper articles with her in it and saves them... and so does she (Misty)!

 

[Kimster]

This story got bumped for KC Anthony. Stay tuned, NG might dig it back out again. We do have a thread about this too.

 

[elle1919]

What is the hold up on this polygraph asked Nancy Grace. Art Harris says " They are looking for the right polygrapher/ examiner." Hmm.. I bet LE has some good ones that would love to ask him a few questions. So, he doesn't trust the police. I wonder why. Maybe because he is criminal? Most criminal's don't have a very high opinion of the law or those that seek to enforce it. JMO

 

[Sailor Bug]

What is the hold up on this polygraph asked Nancy Grace. Art Harris says " They are looking for the right polygrapher/ examiner." Hmm.. I bet LE has some good ones that would love to ask him a few questions. So, he doesn't trust the police. I wonder why. Maybe because he is criminal? Most criminal's don't have a very high opinion of the law or those that seek to enforce it. JMO

Any Legal Eagles here?

Not sure I understand why/how a lawyer would have their client take a poly in jail. How do they protect his privacy? Even though T would have attorney client privilege obviously LE would/could have access to recording the room used even though they cannot use it in court but then again could this privilege be revoked IF T does not pass?

tia

 

[atherella]

Any Legal Eagles here?

Not sure I understand why/how a lawyer would have their client take a poly in jail. How do they protect his privacy? Even though T would have attorney client privilege obviously LE would/could have access to recording the room used even though they cannot use it in court but then again could this privilege be revoked IF T does not pass?

tia

When attorneys are meeting with their clients in jail, they do so in a conference-type room (usually a very small room - just a table with chairs. It's not done in the setting where we've seen Misty and Tommy meeting with Hank and Lisa). LE is not allowed to record an attorney with the client - it's all protected by confidentiality.

I'd imagine if an attorney brings in a polygrapher to run a test, he would need to A. get special permission, and B. get access to a bigger room in which to conduct the testing. LE would not be allowed to record/monitor the polygraph.

 

[debs]

When attorneys are meeting with their clients in jail, they do so in a conference-type room (usually a very small room - just a table with chairs. It's not done in the setting where we've seen Misty and Tommy meeting with Hank and Lisa). LE is not allowed to record an attorney with the client - it's all protected by confidentiality.

I'd imagine if an attorney brings in a polygrapher to run a test, he would need to A. get special permission, and B. get access to a bigger room in which to conduct the testing. LE would not be allowed to record/monitor the polygraph.

I don't know about generally, but in FL, the jail has every right to videotape a client and attorney conference. The Casey Anthony case taught me that, since her lawyers fought (unsuccessfully) to have this changed just for them, in what I can only assume was yet another example of "I'm special and can bend the rules or demand them bent for me." ism.