2010.04.20 - Funeral plans?

  • #101
It is so sad that everyone is forgetting the fact that Ron has raised this little angel and she was living with him and she does have family on rons side too. Ron can very well plan this funeral for this little girl that he loved with his whole heart. Haleighs grandparents can help also as Ron lived with them with Haleigh also too. The kids spent more time with Ron that the maternal side of the family, I don't know why everyone is being so hateful? I hope that people can let this family plan this funeral and put this baby girl to rest in peace. There can be nothing worse than to bury a child, let alone have everyone being so mean to this family. let them be

bbm
i don't think anyone is forgetting that, and I do think that there is a difference between anger and hate. That being said, this precious little girl did not have to die.

As with many of the cases we read about on this website, the lifestyle of the parents puts their children in harms way.

Regardless of whether one believes Ron was directly involved or not, his choice in who he brought into his home to care for his precious children is his responsibility, and his alone.

Beyond that, most people know if their adult chidlren are living drug free, or are drug abusers. In fact ggm Sykes attempted to involve herself in another child's custody, I read it was her other daughter's children, which would be Hope, but I don't know that as fact, but we do know that she herself places herself there that evening to "check" on the kids, per TN's request. So they all knew what was going on. Why didn't they call DHS.Why didn't they petition the courts as ggm had for other children in her family.

The horror that HaLeigh endured was completely preventable.
Yet many posters accused HaLeigh's mom of being spiteful for calling DHS in Nov, when she also knew and was doing everything within her power to save her kids, and even after HaLeigh disappeared with all that DHS knew, they still kept Jr in Ron's care.

Crystal, and Marie, were the only ones proactive in trying to save her children. That's why there is such a lack of compassion for the Cummings family. This is my heartfelt opinion.

Poor HaLeigh didn't have a chance, b/c nobody listened to the concerns of her mother, not a perfect mother, but a mother who has shown to truly love her children and who had traveled 400 miles twice a month just to spend the little time she was allowed to with them. and she isn't in jail, so she actually can plan and attend a funeral. Should TN be involved in planning a funeral? Have you seen the video of her praising Misty and bashing Crystal? Do you think she didn't know how Misty spent the weekend before HaLeigh died? Did she honor HaLeigh by praising Misty and lying to save her son?

Oh, gmab...jmo.
rant over. I'm sorry Kimster, I had to speak out on HaLeigh's behalf, do what you must with me.
 
  • #102
I hope they really did find something to prove Haleigh's death and not just the word of a bunch of dopers. The Grandma seemed to feel that way, that she wants to be shown. With the type people involved, Haleigh could have been sold or given to someone, and they would never talk me into having a funeral or memorial without a body or part of one. Surely there is proof.
 
  • #103
None of Haleighs family members have shared anything on the news. It is only speculation as usual... lol

No, Ron has said stuff through his lawyer about it and GMS has talked about the meeting and what was said which seems a little different take on events. This makes me think different people were told different things.

http://www.news4jax.com/news/23168292/detail.html

Sykes said that what the Sheriff spoke about in the press conference is the same information he told the family earlier in the week behind closed doors.
 
  • #104
If there is to be a funeral at some point in the nearest future....would it be safe to guess that LE or someone will be making a public statement as to how a conclusion was drawn that Haleigh is deceased. I know we heard in the presser that it is LE's "belief" that she is deceased and its become a homicide investigation, but would they just have a funeral with no one coming out and stating for a fact that she is deceased?
 
  • #105
If there is to be a funeral at some point in the nearest future....would it be safe to guess that LE or someone will be making a public statement as to how a conclusion was drawn that Haleigh is deceased. I know we heard in the presser that it is LE's "belief" that she is deceased and its become a homicide investigation, but would they just have a funeral with no one coming out and stating for a fact that she is deceased?

I think murder warrants will be the public statements LE makes.
 
  • #106
Hi Muffet, I'm also thinking since someone has talked now, they might have put 2 + 2 together about the deer blood found in the van. That would be if they believe she was wiped down with it before being put in the river.

If any of Haleigh's hair was found in the van {or even down by the river} coated with that blood, it might be evidence of her death. Not sure xox

The visual horror of it just gets worse and worse.
 
  • #107
bbm
i don't think anyone is forgetting that, and I do think that there is a difference between anger and hate. That being said, this precious little girl did not have to die.

As with many of the cases we read about on this website, the lifestyle of the parents puts their children in harms way.

Regardless of whether one believes Ron was directly involved or not, his choice in who he brought into his home to care for his precious children is his responsibility, and his alone.

Beyond that, most people know if their adult chidlren are living drug free, or are drug abusers. In fact ggm Sykes attempted to involve herself in another child's custody, I read it was her other daughter's children, which would be Hope, but I don't know that as fact, but we do know that she herself places herself there that evening to "check" on the kids, per TN's request. So they all knew what was going on. Why didn't they call DHS.Why didn't they petition the courts as ggm had for other children in her family.

The horror that HaLeigh endured was completely preventable.
Yet many posters accused HaLeigh's mom of being spiteful for calling DHS in Nov, when she also knew and was doing everything within her power to save her kids, and even after HaLeigh disappeared with all that DHS knew, they still kept Jr in Ron's care.

Crystal, and Marie, were the only ones proactive in trying to save her children. That's why there is such a lack of compassion for the Cummings family. This is my heartfelt opinion.

Poor HaLeigh didn't have a chance, b/c nobody listened to the concerns of her mother, not a perfect mother, but a mother who has shown to truly love her children and who had traveled 400 miles twice a month just to spend the little time she was allowed to with them
. and she isn't in jail, so she actually can plan and attend a funeral. Should TN be involved in planning a funeral? Have you seen the video of her praising Misty and bashing Crystal? Do you think she didn't know how Misty spent the weekend before HaLeigh died? Did she honor HaLeigh by praising Misty and lying to save her son?

Perfectly said and I agree with you 100%. Took the words right out of my mouth.
 
  • #108
I'm so angry that a funeral has to be planned after all of this time. I can't stand that all of these people who weren't even related to Haleigh seem to be involved in her death. I wish there was somewhere I could write what I really think. God bless Crystal-a truly honest person who loves Haleigh.
 
  • #109
I'm so angry that a funeral has to be planned after all of this time. I can't stand that all of these people who weren't even related to Haleigh seem to be involved in her death. I wish there was somewhere I could write what I really think. God bless Crystal-a truly honest person who loves Haleigh.

Like you, I am livid.. I can't even begin to decribe how angry I am knowing the pain and suffering these DAMN people have put Crystal and Marie through for the last fourteen months..JMO
 
  • #110
to have the dna or fornenics(sp) is does take weeks and weeks, but....maybe they just got the information back.

We are assuming the LE is going by what they found in the river, maybe not. Maybe we have been chasing shadows while the LE has been very carefully putting a darn good case together and is just now getting ready to drop the hammer.

Not one person has stepped out and said they made a mistake in saying anything about a funeral. You know someone would have quickly straighten that out.
 
  • #111
to have the dna or fornenics(sp) is does take weeks and weeks, but....maybe they just got the information back.

We are assuming the LE is going by what they found in the river, maybe not. Maybe we have been chasing shadows while the LE has been very carefully putting a darn good case together and is just now getting ready to drop the hammer.

Not one person has stepped out and said they made a mistake in saying anything about a funeral. You know someone would have quickly straighten that out.

The title on the article remains the same.

Haleigh's family is planning her funeral
 
  • #112
It is so sad that everyone is forgetting the fact that Ron has raised this little angel and she was living with him and she does have family on rons side too. Ron can very well plan this funeral for this little girl that he loved with his whole heart. Haleighs grandparents can help also as Ron lived with them with Haleigh also too. The kids spent more time with Ron that the maternal side of the family, I don't know why everyone is being so hateful? I hope that people can let this family plan this funeral and put this baby girl to rest in peace. There can be nothing worse than to bury a child, let alone have everyone being so mean to this family. let them be

bbm~
Hi Bathbuddys, I do understand where you are coming from I really do, but having lost 2 children myself, I have to disagree with ya....There are some things that are worse than burying your own child, as hard as that is to imagine.. at least I believe so..Thank the Good Lord I have never had to experience those, as there is no doubt in my mind that I wouldn't make it out alive...


Just for starters~

(1) The NOT knowing where your child is..wondering if they are alive or not...(I can't even begin to imagine that..:()

(2) If they are alive, are they are being taken care of..being abused or tortured?.. would be worse imo.

(3) Coming to the realization that your child may not only have been murdered, but murdered by those who were suppose to love and take care of her.. OMG..can't even think about that..

I don't think anyone is being mean for the sake of being mean, I truly don't..it's more anger than anything else,..ok, at times rage, I'll give you that :) but I can't/won't even apologize for it, it's how I feel. While I know and do respect the fact that you don't believe that Ron had anything to do with HaLeigh's disappearance and apparent death, many of us do believe that with the same passion that you or others may believe that he didn't..and not only do some believe that, it's still unclear to many, just how much TN or GGMS knows about what happened. Personally, I don't feel that they had anything to do with it, but I absolutely feel that they haven't been honest at the very least and lied for Ron and Misty at HaLeigh's expense and that is infuriating to me, as a mother and a grandmother myself..but all that is just MY opinion..

Speaking for myself, My heart goes out to any and all members of HaLeigh's family (Cummings & Sheffield's) that had nothing to do with the tragic end of HaLeigh's life and any cover up of what really happened to her..:(

That said, I surely do hope and pray that if LE doesn't already have 'HaLeigh' (y'all know what I mean, I can't go there) that they soon will have, as I believe that is the only way the family will ever have closure. I can't imagine how horrible it would be to have a memorial/funeral, whatever one wants to call it, without having some tangible proof, scientific or otherwise of HaLeigh..<<shudders>>..
 
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  • #114
Thought I'd bring this post from Media Links here -- thanks Chicoliving!

Are they or are they not? Typical of this case. Two versions of everything.
 
  • #115
It's possible that they found something that would verify that it was Haleigh... scraps of clothing, or even a fragment of hair. Not sure why they told the media they didn't find anything, unless they have to wait for the forensics, but they could have told the family that they had enough to say it was Haleigh's remains.
My heart goes out to Crystal, this has to be the hardest things a mother has to go through.
My heart goes out to Crystal right now too. :cry:
 
  • #116
And then we have NG saying tonight that Ron and Crystal are meeting to decide about having Haleigh declared dead.
 
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  • #119
bbm
i don't think anyone is forgetting that, and I do think that there is a difference between anger and hate. That being said, this precious little girl did not have to die.

As with many of the cases we read about on this website, the lifestyle of the parents puts their children in harms way.

Regardless of whether one believes Ron was directly involved or not, his choice in who he brought into his home to care for his precious children is his responsibility, and his alone.

Beyond that, most people know if their adult chidlren are living drug free, or are drug abusers. In fact ggm Sykes attempted to involve herself in another child's custody, I read it was her other daughter's children, which would be Hope, but I don't know that as fact, but we do know that she herself places herself there that evening to "check" on the kids, per TN's request. So they all knew what was going on. Why didn't they call DHS.Why didn't they petition the courts as ggm had for other children in her family.

The horror that HaLeigh endured was completely preventable.
Yet many posters accused HaLeigh's mom of being spiteful for calling DHS in Nov, when she also knew and was doing everything within her power to save her kids, and even after HaLeigh disappeared with all that DHS knew, they still kept Jr in Ron's care.

Crystal, and Marie, were the only ones proactive in trying to save her children. That's why there is such a lack of compassion for the Cummings family. This is my heartfelt opinion.

Poor HaLeigh didn't have a chance, b/c nobody listened to the concerns of her mother, not a perfect mother, but a mother who has shown to truly love her children and who had traveled 400 miles twice a month just to spend the little time she was allowed to with them. and she isn't in jail, so she actually can plan and attend a funeral. Should TN be involved in planning a funeral? Have you seen the video of her praising Misty and bashing Crystal? Do you think she didn't know how Misty spent the weekend before HaLeigh died? Did she honor HaLeigh by praising Misty and lying to save her son?

Oh, gmab...jmo.
rant over. I'm sorry Kimster, I had to speak out on HaLeigh's behalf, do what you must with me.

Thank you for the heartfelt post Yosande! You said it all and much better than I could have. :blowkiss:
 
  • #120
Haleigh's family is planning her funeral

I see where it went from Ron was told to the family is planning... media spin and sensationalism. It's disgusting!
 

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