2010.04.20 Levi Page article~"Don't clear Ronald Cummings yet!"

[lonetraveler]

Just saying that he doesn't get any points from me because he waited for almost a whole year before getting caught dealing drugs after the disappearance of his daughter. It's not an extenuating circumstance.

:cow:

ITA. IMO, it took a year for Ron to get caught dealing drugs. This doesn't mean that he wasn't dealing all along, it just means he got caught doing it a year after Haleigh disappeared.

 

[Cat13067]

Here's a question that has been bugging me since I heard it the other day.

Why does/did RC WANT to be put into gen pop? Does he have "friends", "connections" or otherwise "business associates" in gen pop that could "help him out"?

I think he wants people to think his little charges of drug dealing warrant GP. He would have much more freedom to play with his jewelry, and buy drugs. We all know drugs are sold in our prisons, sadly.

 

[faefrost]

Thank you Levi for asking some reasonable questions, and for voicing some concerns about all of the central players in this case.

I cannot for the life of me understand why anyone is taking any sides with these families, or believing one group over the other. They all rather obviously failed this child horribly. From the active players such as Ron and Misty to the more passive family members who simply enabled the horror show. Sorry no amount of stories can fully explain away that Misty was the last person in possesion of the child, and can't give a straight truthful and consistant answer about what happened. The child died on her watch, no question of that. The only question is whether it was accidental, accidental with criminal underpinnings such as she took some of daddies drugs, or an intentional act. And sorry no matter what kid gloves NG may treat him with, Ron is still raising alot of major red flags.yeah it is apparent that he probably did not have a direct hand in Hayleighs death (provided any of the timelines can be believed), but it is all apparent that he has been a huge participant in the misdirection and coverup. In part most likely to cover his own ongoing illegal activities.

There is no "good" or "sympathetic" side here, except for that of that poor child who was apparently failed by everyone around her probably pretty much from birth.

Someone comented that they could not understand why GGS would do just the childrens laundry and not anyone elses. That is very very common. It is an obvious sign that GGS saw something in how the children were being cared for and treated in that household that really bothered her. It means she saw that the kids were living in their own filth. So she opted to get their underwear clean, rather than stepping in any further or asking any more questions.

 

[JSV]

Thank you Levi for being a voice for HaLeigh .

 

[alwaysonmymind]

Here's a question that has been bugging me since I heard it the other day.

Why does/did RC WANT to be put into gen pop? Does he have "friends", "connections" or otherwise "business associates" in gen pop that could "help him out"?

Access. Most jails have TV's in the tanks, but not in the single-cell area. Some also let you buy radios from the "store". You can also use the phone w/o asking a guard to roll it over to your bean chute.
Jmo
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[MvD]

Here's a question that has been bugging me since I heard it the other day.

Why does/did RC WANT to be put into gen pop? Does he have "friends", "connections" or otherwise "business associates" in gen pop that could "help him out"?

jmo, but I think RC wanted in gen pop so he could garner more info about whats going on w/ Misty, et.al.. And maybe so he could buddy up w/ someone that could be released and be a threat to a snitch..

Did anyone find it kinda odd that RC (thru his attorney) made the comment that he hoped MC was forced/threatened to withhold info she may have known about Hayleigh.. and whatya know.. thats exactly what Misty (supposedly) claims.. that Joe held a knife to her throat.. I just wonder if he wanted that out there to remind Misty what to say.. coaching her via press releases..
I dunno.. just thinking aloud.. Im so confused about this case, I cant remember which things came first..
I totally believe (and have from the beginning) that RC was directly involved with Hayleigh's demise.. if not the sole perp.. and that Misty has been covering for him.. maybe it was RC that held a knife to misty's throat..

 

[joeskidbeck]

I truly believe that the only person Misty would or could cover up for over a year is herself. This girl does not have the intelligence that it would take to pull it off. It is absolutely AMAZING that she has managed it so far. Top that off with her drug use and it is almost unbelievable. I think the story is finallly coming out because they have all been in jail (and off the drugs) long enough for their drug addled brains to be of use to them.
As always....MOO

 

[SoSueMe]

Levi - one thing I am curious about and think your thoughts might be very interesting about Ron is why he tells Cobra about Shell Harbour boat ramp and why he tells Tim Miller about the same location but yet LE does not search this area intil last week. Just to my way of thinking, Ron never bothered to float this to LE, and perhaps he didn't because he already knew something. Just seems to me he attempted to manuever several in that direction when he should have been sending LE. I do find this quite strange - any thoughts ?

I'm not Levi either, but I think Ron mentioned it to Cobra and Tim Miller "just in case" they did search that spot. He was able to suggest Joe liked to fish there or however the story goes. Just like he told Tim Miller during the hypnosis session with Misty that he didn't think she was home. Wasn't that the first time he came out with that tidbit? I think he said it just in case the hypnosis worked and she revealed she wasn't home. He tries to cover his own rear before the truth comes out.

In both instances he can say, I suspected as much and even told so-and-so about it. JMO

 

[Meagain]

So you're believing Ron's family... Not exactly impartial people are they?

If they aren't facts, then correct me. I didn't see you correct one thing.

I heard from many people who were in Satsuma, that Ronald was taking Misty out to eat, they were going to the race tracks, and when it came time for Ron to pay for something he said "Don't you know who I am?"

That is not searching for your daughter. Natalee Holloway's mother wasn't dealing drugs a year after Natalee vanished. She spent months in Aruba, she was in Aruba off and on for a year.

Mark Lunsford wasn't dealing drugs a year after his child was murdered. Lunsford was getting tough laws passed against child predators.

Ronald's behavior is disgusting, replusive, and it shows his true colors.

Excuse me but I'm not believing one side over the other. I'm suggestion you are doing that. Picking and choosing who to ignore and who to believe. Which is fine. I have no problems with that. I wouldn't call it objective reporting/journalism however.

I'm just saying just because Ron's behavior repulses you, I wouldn't say that means he killed his child.

Mark Lundsford - yes, everyone reamed him also. For a long time. Just because how he looked, the area, stigmatized just by the fact that they lived in trailers. I remember it well. He was vilified big time. Initially.

That said - you have been asking stellar questions on the tv shows. Which I appreciate.

 

[Levi]

Excuse me but I'm not believing one side over the other. I'm suggestion you are doing that. Picking and choosing who to ignore and who to believe. Which is fine. I have no problems with that. I wouldn't call it objective reporting/journalism however.

I'm just saying just because Ron's behavior repulses you, I wouldn't say that means he killed his child.

Mark Lundsford - yes, everyone reamed him also. For a long time. Just because how he looked, the area, stigmatized just by the fact that they lived in trailers. I remember it well. He was vilified big time. Initially.

That said - you have been asking stellar questions on the tv shows. Which I appreciate.

I've never made any comments about trailers, how they dressed or looked.

I was never one that vilified Mark Lunsford.

Thanks for the compliment about the questions. I asked Tommy Croslin's lawyers some questions on HLN tonight.

He is one of these lawyers who talk a lot but say very little. Very annoying.

 

[Levi]

I'm not Levi either, but I think Ron mentioned it to Cobra and Tim Miller "just in case" they did search that spot. He was able to suggest Joe liked to fish there or however the story goes. Just like he told Tim Miller during the hypnosis session with Misty that he didn't think she was home. Wasn't that the first time he came out with that tidbit? I think he said it just in case the hypnosis worked and she revealed she wasn't home. He tries to cover his own rear before the truth comes out.

In both instances he can say, I suspected as much and even told so-and-so about it. JMO

I think you just nailed it! I love your handle BTW ;-)

 

[raisincharlie]

I'm not Levi either, but I think Ron mentioned it to Cobra and Tim Miller "just in case" they did search that spot. He was able to suggest Joe liked to fish there or however the story goes. Just like he told Tim Miller during the hypnosis session with Misty that he didn't think she was home. Wasn't that the first time he came out with that tidbit? I think he said it just in case the hypnosis worked and she revealed she wasn't home. He tries to cover his own rear before the truth comes out.

In both instances he can say, I suspected as much and even told so-and-so about it. JMO

SoSueMe, thanks. I quess I just stumble on the fact that LE confirmed the area around Shell Harbour was never searched and the data collected in the past few weeks led them there.

This pretty much tells me Ron or any of them for that matter, even those he did tell, never relayed this information to LE. One sure does have to wonder why a man missing "his heart" wouldn't bother with telling LE this supposed important information right away. Seems to me Ron couldn't tell it to LE right away or ever. Sure makes him look guilty of something doesn't it ?

 

[MADJGNLAW]

jmo, but I think RC wanted in gen pop so he could garner more info about whats going on w/ Misty, et.al.. And maybe so he could buddy up w/ someone that could be released and be a threat to a snitch..

Did anyone find it kinda odd that RC (thru his attorney) made the comment that he hoped MC was forced/threatened to withhold info she may have known about Hayleigh.. and whatya know.. thats exactly what Misty (supposedly) claims.. that Joe held a knife to her throat.. I just wonder if he wanted that out there to remind Misty what to say.. coaching her via press releases..
I dunno.. just thinking aloud.. Im so confused about this case, I cant remember which things came first..
I totally believe (and have from the beginning) that RC was directly involved with Hayleigh's demise.. if not the sole perp.. and that Misty has been covering for him.. maybe it was RC that held a knife to misty's throat..

I to feel that Misty may be holding back in fear and love for Ron. It has been said by his ex's how he is abusive, like to play Russian roulette and last I heard he put a gun to his mouth in front of his son. IMO, he is a very sick individual and Misty is protecting him and herself.

 

[Bathbuddys]

jmo, but I think RC wanted in gen pop so he could garner more info about whats going on w/ Misty, et.al.. And maybe so he could buddy up w/ someone that could be released and be a threat to a snitch..

Did anyone find it kinda odd that RC (thru his attorney) made the comment that he hoped MC was forced/threatened to withhold info she may have known about Hayleigh.. and whatya know.. thats exactly what Misty (supposedly) claims.. that Joe held a knife to her throat.. I just wonder if he wanted that out there to remind Misty what to say.. coaching her via press releases..
I dunno.. just thinking aloud.. Im so confused about this case, I cant remember which things came first..
I totally believe (and have from the beginning) that RC was directly involved with Hayleigh's demise.. if not the sole perp.. and that Misty has been covering for him.. maybe it was RC that held a knife to misty's throat..

It is impossible for Ron to tell Misty ahead of time what to say etc as what we are seeing on TV is at least a month old.... there will be an arrest anytime I am sure with all the happenings lately. Ron was cleared for the millionth time.

 

[angeleleven]

I to feel that Misty may be holding back in fear and love for Ron. It has been said by his ex's how he is abusive, like to play Russian roulette and last I heard he put a gun to his mouth in front of his son. IMO, he is a very sick individual and Misty is protecting him and herself.

I TOTALLY agree with you. I think Misty is protecting Ron, also and I feel he has a major role in this mess. JMO

 

[MADJGNLAW]

The more I think about this case, the more I think about little Caylee..may she RIP.
Casey always said Caylee was close to home. And Caylee was found about 15houses away.

Ron, mentions this river. Tommy and others mention the river. But the river never gets searched.:furious: Cobra talk to Ron about this River early on last year and even told Ron he had told LE about it. Ron ask Cobra if he felt Haleigh may of been in the river...and Ron answers his own question by saying. "Probably".
The river was never search..Why? :banghead:
I just don't get it. These sick individuals will tell a bit of truth in every lie. This river theory was out early on. But the river was never searched. :furious:
Also, I seen an aerial view of the area near Ron's MN. There looks to be "3" docks behind the woods where the dogs tracked Haleigh's sent. I say search in-between the three docks. That was something else Misty kept saying. All she could remember was "3".

LE says no remains were found in the river, but other was. Maybe the remains are in another section of the river?

 

[angeleleven]

I also want to THANK YOU Levi for being a voice for Haleigh. I think you do a great job! I like the statements you make and the questions you ask. I look forward to you being on JVM.

 

[suspicious1]

O/T I didn't come on board here until the beginning of March but I feel I have squaking rights now...JMO

Hey Em, maybe I wasn't too clear with my post and I apologize. I just meant that there are some people on here that have not heard or seen some things regarding this case. I remember you Em, and I enjoy reading your posts. But I also remember that you were digging deep, just like the rest of us, I've actually learned a lot from you. I know where you stand as far as this case goes, but you have formed your opinions based on the information that has been giving to us. There's been quite a few times where I would state something and then someone else will say "where did you read/see that?" For example, that Greta Interview, some people are just now seeing that video, but that video has been out for how long? Yet, that video contributed to the feelings people have toward Ron. So that's why I said some people need to go back to the beginning, KWIM?

:blowkiss:

 

[cyberborg]

I'm not Levi either, but I think Ron mentioned it to Cobra and Tim Miller "just in case" they did search that spot. He was able to suggest Joe liked to fish there or however the story goes. Just like he told Tim Miller during the hypnosis session with Misty that he didn't think she was home. Wasn't that the first time he came out with that tidbit? I think he said it just in case the hypnosis worked and she revealed she wasn't home. He tries to cover his own rear before the truth comes out.

In both instances he can say, I suspected as much and even told so-and-so about it. JMO

I agree. I think Ron learned this 'pe-CYA' skill (pre-emptive Cover Your A$$) while dabbling in drugs and avoiding prosecution.

I also think that Ron is somewhat relieved to be in jail, he must have both been thrilled he had pulled a major one over on LE and the world-at-large BUT he must also have been increasingly paranoid day after day that something did not crack open and his world cave in. Stressful to the max. Haunted.

He may have secretly wanted to get caught dealing drugs.

Ron can now relax in the general population, folks he connects with and use his charm to wheel and deal.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Originally Posted by SWAG1959
Here's a question that has been bugging me since I heard it the other day.

Why does/did RC WANT to be put into gen pop? Does he have "friends", "connections" or otherwise "business associates" in gen pop that could "help him out"?

My belief is, he wants to get to ToC!

Once he tells his jailmates about ToC possibly murdering his child, they will do it for him...honor amongst theives..you betcha when a child is involved..JMHO

We heard how Inmate Anthony has been chastized being called a baby killer, imagine if these men get ahold of ToC??? Besides "tossing his salad", they will no doubt about it, do him in...JMHO I do hope he's being kept in PC for his own good...I'm sure he is segregated from the others, CO's know what happens to guys that harm children...JMHO

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