2010.06.30 Andrea Lyon is off the Dream Team! She quits!

[Horace Finklestein]

Something else just occured to me in regards to Lyon's seemingly sudden departure.

She has witnessed the pure, strong hatred for Casey, and for anyone that associates with her.

Maybe she thought it was in the best interest of not only her career that she has strived and dedicated herself to for over 25yrs, but, for any FUTURE clients that she may be called upon to represent.

She took quite a kicking when it was revealed that she was a party to that innocent man that sat on death row for how many years?
And, her all to famous speech at that convention.
That went over like a lead balloon.

She should be disbarred and in prison for that imo.

 

[spyhouston]

Maybe she dropped out because she just couldn't 'make him stop' !!!

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Those of us in the astrology forum have expected this for ages. It was predicted in the charts done by our very own Tuba.

We knew it was close in coming when she gave Casey a big old bear hug at the end of one of the hearings. It definitely appeared to be a goodbye hug to us. If I'm not mistaken, the most recent hearings, AL checked in by telephone instead of being there in person.

I was just going to post the same, Askleuth...amazing you atrologers hit the nail on the head, many times..I thank you all for your great insights....:dance:

What happened to all the money procured? ALyon stated in court over $70,000 was procured of which she used $7,000 on the Anthony case..So, I'm wondering if it truly is something other than travel expenses that swayed her to leave??? I wonder...

Justice for Caylee

 

[zoey]

Judge Perry did say that JAC would adhere to very rigid, strict guidelines as far as travel, hotels, rental cars, ,etc.

The cheapest flights, no high class crab cakes in the sky hotel rooms, economy cars only, and, if anyone wanted better, they had to make up the differance.
Not making fun of Andrea Lyon's larger size, but, I would almost bet that she had been flying first class, on possible frequent flyer miles with a boost. To fly economy, she may have been looking at picking up the price of an extra seat to accomadate her size?
Being stuck in a lowly Econo-Lodge for the months of the trial, may not have been to her liking?

It is odd/strange, that she bails out now though.
It's been very obvious that NO work what-so-ever had been put into preparing for this trial until Perry put the peddle to the medal and told them to kick it into high gear.
Since Andrea Lyon came on board, IMO, given her speciality, she has been working on the mitigation all along.

Now, with the fee rates going down tomorrow on that, they obviously decided that they have what they need?
But, puzzeling given this is her area of arguement.

Some have mentioned that maybe she couldn't get Casey to budge, and that could very well be it also.

I can't remember who brought up that Casey is going to enjoy the attention of the trial, etc, and seeing "everyone" from her past.
I don't think so ~ She doesn't want to be in court now ~
But, she obviously doesn't mind sitting her jail cell, and, as long as she is at home at the Orange County Jail, that's one less day she sits in prison.
She's content to take the long ride, all the way to the end, then, maybe, just maybe break down and have her boys offer a plea on her behalf.

But, overall, it is strange that Andrea is stepping down now.
I tend to think that it has more to do with DePaul and the alumni closing the check book and raising hell over what is has been depleted from that account.

ITA--I'm also thinking that the "team" and all their mistakes and whatevers don't look good for the dupaul school of law...People have been pointing out way to many errors in the filings and her NAME is on alot of them---doesn't look professional ----

Also thinking that TL left because jb wasn't going with the program....perhaps this is why to---can't believe its financial after her performance that she was doing this pro-bono....she may just realize that the "team" is playing a game that she doesn't like.....

 

[21merc7]

Hmmm could RH be the newest member? I did see RH in the courtroom right behind the defense table. JMO

While I know everyone would love to see this happen, and RH may want it too, I think it would just make for some rather huge issues for KC to get a new trial if it happened. First, RH is not DP qualified, we already have JB sitting second chair, I think the Judge would prefer this highly publicized capital murder case not have another second chair. Second, RH has publicly outed JB (and CM come to think of it) in rather not so tactful ways. That is an immediate conflict. If counsel cannot get along, a new trial could be an outcome. There is no sharing between these two, no professional relationship that can build or be sustained.

At any rate, I do hope that another DP qualified is appointed. Not sure it will happen, but hope it does. They need some strong characters to get KC into reality.

 

[2goldfish]

I just logged in and saw this, not read the thread yet....heavens, I am very disappointed in Ms Lyons. I at least respected her for fighting what she believes in....guess she doesnt believe as much as she acts like she does.

 

[truckengirl]

Does anyone know if the Defense has recently gotten a new document dump, I was just thinking that maybe she found out something new that was released that made her finally realize that there is no way KC is getting off and that if she stays on the case her perfect reputation would be ruined. I dont buy for one second that it has to do with money.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

ITA--I'm also thinking that the "team" and all their mistakes and whatevers don't look good for the dupaul school of law...People have been pointing out way to many errors in the filings and her NAME is on alot of them---doesn't look professional ----

Also thinking that TL left because jb wasn't going with the program....perhaps this is why to---can't believe its financial after her performance that she was doing this pro-bono....she may just realize that the "team" is playing a game that she doesn't like.....

Could be she got wind of Baez bringing contraband in and out for ICA. CA made it perfectly clear that Baez has no problems breaking the rules...ALyon seems to be one that goes by the rules and wouldn't want to be associated with an attorney who doesn't follow rules/procedures...Her reputation can't be tarnished! JMHO


Justice for Caylee

 

[Cherry Baby]

I'm playing catch up on my news this morning and just found this. To quote a particular person on trial right now, I find Andrea's leaving 'effing golden'.

 

[Mosby]

Maybe she thought she could get Strickland to let her spew her tears, but she knew that once JB got him kicked to the curb and they ended up with Mr. No Nonsense, be on time and I am not opposed to the DP, Judge Perry she ran as fast as she could?

One thing I would take to vegas, this is not about money. Wonder if she will do any tv consulting work on this case now? Will be interesting to see if she shows up anywhere, doing interviews about the death penalty, etc as she can't speak about kc's case specifically.

Kathi B will get the back story, I just know it!

BBM

I couldn't agree more. That's exactly my take. One of CM's first blunders out of the gate was having JS recused. This is not about $$$. IIRC, she's been pro-bono all along. This is all about CM. His first appearance at the indigency hearing was a catastrophe. His pressers even worse!

 

[strawberry]

Could be she got wind of Baez bringing contraband in and out for ICA. CA made it perfectly clear that Baez has no problems breaking the rules...ALyon seems to be one that goes by the rules and wouldn't want to be associated with an attorney who doesn't follow rules/procedures...Her reputation can't be tarnished! JMHO


Justice for Caylee

I thought of that too..seems to coincide with the letters. Maybe proof of JBs underhandedness was the last straw. Or maybe CA's law school dreams.:waitasec:

 

[essies]

Does anyone know if the Defense has recently gotten a new document dump, I was just thinking that maybe she found out something new that was released that made her finally realize that there is no way KC is getting off and that if she stays on the case her perfect reputation would be ruined. I dont buy for one second that it has to do with money.

ITA
It can't be about money-those who she successfully defended didn't have bottomless pocketbooks I'm sure. Where is her passion to save KC's life? AL and the defense team have said over and over that the state wants to "KILL" their client-and she is leaving for financial reasons!! You can run Andrea-but this will follow you for the rest of your career and make people question your dedication to fight the death penalty!! IMO
Here she is in Jan. 2010 and she isn't convincing me that she believes KC OR that her case is winnable!! And that was before Judge Perry took over-that little blunder on the defense's part might have been the straw that broke the camel's back for AL!! Thanks to Patty G for the video clip!!
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AS5Es1twARE[/ame]

 

[zoey]

Could be she got wind of Baez bringing contraband in and out for ICA. CA made it perfectly clear that Baez has no problems breaking the rules...ALyon seems to be one that goes by the rules and wouldn't want to be associated with an attorney who doesn't follow rules/procedures...Her reputation can't be tarnished! JMHO


Justice for Caylee

and in so would also cause the reputation of DuPaul.....IYKWIM--

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I couldn't agree more. That's exactly my take. One of CM's first blunders out of the gate was having JS recused. This is not about $$$. IIRC, she's been pro-bono all along. This is all about CM. His first appearance at the indigency hearing was a catastrophe. His pressers even worse!

Too many cooks spoil the broth!

Seems they may all have different ideas on how they should defend, what strategy they will go with, each has a different take...but as GA states, ICA is the boss, she's at the helm and if she doesn't want to go with it, she won't. IMO, she will fight to her very end, cry innocence, blame whoever but in the end.....JMHO

I also find it strange, CA was in awe of ALyon and thought she could put an end to all the nonsense...guess that was short lived. I wonder how she feels about ALyon now that she's left her daughter defense...JMHO

Justice for Caylee

 

[essies]

Too many cooks spoil the broth!

Seems they may all have different ideas on how they should defend, what strategy they will go with, each has a different take...but as GA states, ICA is the boss, she's at the helm and if she doesn't want to go with it, she won't. IMO, she will fight to her very end, cry innocence, blame whoever but in the end.....JMHO

I also find it strange, CA was in awe of ALyon and thought she could put an end to all the nonsense...guess that was short lived. I wonder how she feels about ALyon now that she's left her daughter defense...JMHOJustice for Caylee

BBM
I think CA was star struck by AL's experience, record and passion-CA also liked and trusted Mort too. AL sided with CA on visiting KC-that probably gave Cindy a feeling that she had a voice or an advocate for the family on the defense side. I also wonder how CA and GA are feeling this morning!:waitasec:

 

[Macushla]

I have to agree with all the posters who said this is not going to Make AL look good. Her whole career is now oriented on getting people 'off' a death penalty charge - and she walks away from a death penalty case? There is something else going on behind the scenes, in my opinion.

The mitigation specialist may be done with her investigation by now and whether she stays or not may not be important. But for AL to 'walk away' is really something. I am assuming that saying it was for 'financial reasons' is the onlly thing they could come up with that wouldn't open a whole new can of worms. I mean, she couldn't say "I think JB is an incompetent idiot and don't want anything more to do with this case" or "Casey is guilty of premeditated murder and I don't want to waste any more time with this case". Citing financial hardship is almost believable - if you aren't a WSer that is

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

I don't believe AL quit because JB broke any rules. She doesn't seem to be a rule player either as demonstrated by her methods revealed during her lectures. Although this case hasn't been financially profitable for her, I don't think it was loss of income that convinced her to quit. I think she gave it up because it was not "professionally" advantageous for her to struggle on with an unprofessional team that would jeopardize her outstanding win statistics.

How shallow she must be. She has built her life around becoming the Angel of Death Row, saving souls from being "killed" by a "cruel society." It is her life's mission, right? Unless it gets too complicated or expensive or conflicted. I am shocked to now learn that angels have limits on sacrificial giving. No pure hearts or unicorns will be found hanging around AL!!!

 

[Swancat63]

Maybe AL thought Casey is, you know, A WASTE. A HUGE WASTE!!
JMOO


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[Aedrys]

You guys are right, this does make her look bad. I doubt many people will want to hire her once they learn if they don't do things her way or pay her enough, she won't stick around. Pro Bono my butt. She probably only put that on paper to make herself look better. Like Baez, she thought she'd get major good publicity and money out of this case. Now that neither is going her way, I'm not surprised to see her leave. It's the rats that jump ship first, you know.

I think even Baez would leave if he could, but he's in way too deep and can't back out now. Yes, the defense is paying, once again, for getting HHJS recused. Now that Andrea can't have the courtroom she wants, she's outta there. I really think after that disastrous death penalty hearing, she knew she had to get out as soon as she could.

It does make me FUME though that so many hearings and even the trial date was moved around for HER benefit, and now she's gone! Can the defense be sanctioned for wasting the court's time like that? It just doesn't seem right that she got such special treatment - both HHJS and HHJP went out of their way to accommodate her for silly, ridiculous reasons (teaching class, daughter's graduation) - and now it's all for nothing. If I were HHJP, I would be downright FURIOUS at Andrea Lyon for doing this. What a slap to the face of the Florida courts.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

You guys are right, this does make her look bad. I doubt many people will want to hire her once they learn if they don't do things her way or pay her enough, she won't stick around. Pro Bono my butt. She probably only put that on paper to make herself look better. Like Baez, she thought she'd get major good publicity and money out of this case. Now that neither is going her way, I'm not surprised to see her leave. It's the rats that jump ship first, you know.

I think even Baez would leave if he could, but he's in way too deep and can't back out now. Yes, the defense is paying, once again, for getting HHJS recused. Now that Andrea can't have the courtroom she wants, she's outta there. I really think after that disastrous death penalty hearing, she knew she had to get out as soon as she could.

It does make me FUME though that so many hearings and even the trial date was moved around for HER benefit, and now she's gone! Can the defense be sanctioned for wasting the court's time like that? It just doesn't seem right that she got such special treatment - both HHJS and HHJP went out of their way to accommodate her for silly, ridiculous reasons (teaching class, daughter's graduation) - and now it's all for nothing. If I were HHJP, I would be downright FURIOUS at Andrea Lyon for doing this. What a slap to the face of the Florida courts.

Amen!!! I hope they at least make her turn in her wings! :angel: