2010.07.19 Defense is Investigating George

[Numbers]

IMO
I predict we will see a made for tv movie within a few short months, heck weeks, after the trial ends and a book or two or more, ...

The joke is that there is enough public information out there that renders the "inside crowd" books and movies unappealing to publishers/studios. Why pay for the same information that can be gleaned from public records?

 

[ThinkTank]

Absolutely!!

The one thing that keeps coming to my mind is the question of "How will all of this affect GA/CA's book/movie/interview prospects when this is all over?" !!!!!
To me, it doesn't look too good for their future earning potential if the bus heads their way and leaves a few tire tracks on them. They cannot possibly be OK with this as part of any script, IMO.

IMO ... George has been led to believe, strongly convinced, that all of them must do everything they possibly can to get Inmate Anthony out of this, so they can alllll make a ton of money after the trial. I believe George is banking (literally) on the big payday at the end, so he will never have to work again. He is sticking to Cindy like glue because she has the rapport, she has established the relationships with all the media types. I'm sure the "handlers" are telling George to just go along with whatever the Defense dishes out, because they know the "truth" (blah blah blah), and it will all be worth it in the end. As in BIG BOOK DEAL and movie rights ..... $$$$$$$$$$$

George does not have enough foresight to be able to see that if he broke away from the money gang, and stood up for Caylee, he would be a HERO to the public and he would make out better than any of the rest of them.

 

[Purple Iris]

Picture it...
Prosecution side...all those seated behind them dressed in Purple.

And I was just thinking last week, while we were waiting for the hearing, that those that were going, should all go ahead and wear "Victim type button", and ALL sit on Casey's side, therefore, FORCING her "peeps" to sit on the states side ~!!!

But, maybe they are slowly, finally, showing their allegiance, in baby steps??
One can hope I guess.
They can't make the move to quickly, wouldn't want to tip anyone off...

 

[RR0004]

Is the PI working for the mitigation specialist? I.E. pulling up dirt about GA's suicide attempt may be to sway a jury not to give Casey the death penalty because her dad is so unstable?

I wonder who leaked all of these documents on the WFTV website?

Leaked? I assumed that it's a matter of public record and therefore can be requested. Could be wrong, though.

 

[Purple Iris]

IMO ... George has been led to believe, strongly convinced, that all of them must do everything they possibly can to get Inmate Anthony out of this, so they can alllll make a ton of money after the trial. I believe George is banking (literally) on the big payday at the end, so he will never have to work again. He is sticking to Cindy like glue because she has the rapport, she has established the relationships with all the media types. I'm sure the "handlers" are telling George to just go along with whatever the Defense dishes out, because they know the "truth" (blah blah blah), and it will all be worth it in the end. As in BIG BOOK DEAL and movie rights ..... $$$$$$$$$$$

George does not have enough foresight to be able to see that if he broke away from the money gang, and stood up for Caylee, he would be a HERO to the public and he would make out better than any of the rest of them.

No kidding ~ If George took a stand, he still wouldn't have to disrupt his lifestyle, and still NOT work, AND, he could come out on top.

He could have his OWN house, and take Cindy's little dog in the process of a divorce, and, STILL NOT HAVE TO PAY HER a dime.

If he came clean, yeah, people would be pissed, but, if he holds the key to that door, he could clean up on his own by going to the state and getting a first class ticket on THEIR BUS, rather than on Casey's.
People move on, and he would be big man on campus, what he has always desired to be.

Oh my ~ like I said, what to do, what to do.....George, George, George....wouldn't you like to upgrade the USS Caylee Marie???
Huh big spender......what do ya think????

 

[ZsaZsa]

Is the PI working for the mitigation specialist? I.E. pulling up dirt about GA's suicide attempt may be to sway a jury not to give Casey the death penalty because her dad is so unstable?

I wonder who leaked all of these documents on the WFTV website?

The Florida taxpayer is paying all the bills now, so it is a matter of public record via JAC. No leaks necessary. The PI is working for Baez according to his accounts.

 

[ZsaZsa]

The thread is called 'The Defense is investigating GA' but I really hope the SA has done some surreptitious investigation of CA and GA as in bugging the house/phones etc. with a view to prosecution after KC goes down...

 

[countzero]

Is the PI working for the mitigation specialist? I.E. pulling up dirt about GA's suicide attempt may be to sway a jury not to give Casey the death penalty because her dad is so unstable?

I wonder who leaked all of these documents on the WFTV website?

Leaked? I assumed that it's a matter of public record and therefore can be requested. Could be wrong, though.

Naw, there is only one person who loves to do some leaking ...... sometimes with paper, sometimes with words.

 

[Leila]

Wrt. BC.

Interesting. He represents both CA and GA but if this is in CA's interests -- to try to save KC and BC is on board ..... where does that leave GA?

Conflict of interests. GA needs to hire himself his own attorney and get his own representation and protection that does not defer blindly towards KC.

Perhaps John Morgan would be interested in representing George. :angel:

 

[Schmerty_Jones]

Perhaps John Morgan would be interested in representing George. :angel:

Oh it was sad,SO SAD...It was sad when the great ship went down d 0 W N.....:truce:

 

[Oakley]

Oh Leila, that is hysterical. I could just see it too! Cindy would die of heart failure for sure.

 

[hannahsnana]

IMO
I predict we will see a made for tv movie within a few short months, heck weeks, after the trial ends and a book or two or more, ...

Intermezzo, I agree there will be some money made, but probably not more than he could have made from a paying client on such a charge. Frankly, the whole bunch are more than a little tiresome. As far as I'm concerned, they can all go jump off a cliff. I just want justice for Caylee.

 

[beach]

I'm still processing this whole deal, but these are the thoughts that permeate my mind right now:

GA was the one who tried to help Tim Miller by begging Casey to mark an 'X' on the map;

GA, after that episode, eventually ended up at the hotel with Tim Miller and the TES crew after Cindy supposedly threw him out for being 'disloyal';

GA was the one who, during his interview with LE (or the FBI?), tried to be as truthful as he could allow himself to be, even stating "I hope this goes no further than between the 3 of us";

GA was the one that did what he could to make Cindy face the truth by going to Sports Authority to confirm his belief that Casey did NOT work there and, true to form, was lying again;

GA was the one who was so distraught during his interview with LE that he actually had to leave to throw-up when discussing the possibility that his daughter could have murdered his beloved Caylee;

GA had obviously expressed his true feelings to his friend from Ohio (name escapes me, but former LE also) when his friend stated, "The answer is in THAT room and the b*tch won't talk";

GA was the one that called the cops when the gas cans were 'stolen' and I don't doubt for a minute he knew exactly who broke in that shed;

GA was the one who found an excuse to go to the trunk of the Pontiac despite Casey's tantrum and took his f'ing gas cans;

GA is the one who testified at the Grand Jury hearing who obviously had damaging testimony that helped to indict his daughter;

George & Cindy's separation was in large part due to disagreements over Casey;

and last, but certainly not least -

I don't believe for a minute that George is on board with this defense plot and willingly playing the role of sacrfical lamb. Yes, I know what he has said in the past, but his body language and his demeanor were real and sincere - his absences from several of the recent hearings post the sexual abuse allegations and especially his demeanor and body language at Thursday's hearings screamed anger, depression, disgust, hurt, betrayal... The pure iciness between he and Cindy - they appear to be on the verge of divorce, imo. I opined a few weeks ago that I think he is reassessing just how willing he is to lie down on those tracks as the train is heading for him....I feel that way more than ever today.


George needs to go spend a few weeks with his friend from Ohio and remove himself from the insanity and pressure. He needs to have a 'Come to meet Jesus' with himself...watch Bambi alone, watch home movies of Caylee and JoJo, go outside and look at the moon and stars -- just channel Caylee and remember how much he loved her and she loved him. Recall all the joy she brought into his life. Those are the influences George needs right now. That is what will help him work through his grief and give him new insight. He MUST get away from Cindy. She is pure poison for him right now, he might as well drink arsenic if he stays around her. George is an easy target and I am sure there was not a 1/2 second of thought about who would be the one to 'take one for the A team' 'cause they stand united, ya know?

Maybe there are things influencing him and giving his pause (other than Cindy, of course ). Maybe he HAS done some things that he fears will be exposed (I don't doubt that at all) - either embarrassing or things that could cause potential legal problems....yes, even criminal. One thing I AM SURE OF, is that George did NOT murder Caylee. If that is the case, I wish the SA would offer him immunity for anything they possibly could and get him on their side...Caylee's side. Divided they WILL fall. I want Caylee's JoJo to be a hero for her.

I pray for George to finally muster the strength, confidence and independence to not allow himself to be used like this. I know she is your daughter, George and you love her, but Casey is a black widow who destroys everyone and everything in her path. Face it, Casey is already 'gone'. Enough people have suffered. Don't do it, George. Don't do it. Please make us proud. Most importantly, make Caylee proud. She needs her JoJo now more than ever. And you need to do it for yourself.

I'm not holding out a lot of hope, because George has never had an easy time of standing up for himself, but I'm pulling for him.

 

[wonders]

Florence Harbor Drive is where the 2 people live that reported hearing a child screaming on Oct. 9, 2008. Here's the incident report p. 12395 http://www.wftv.com/pdf/21910328/detail.html

And here's a thread about it: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?t=92615&highlight=adolescent

As always I'm late to the event and am not finished reading here but had to comment on this.

So maybe GA was/is being investigated for being a pedifile (<spelling). ICA, some child screaming and therefore he murdered Caylee cuz he was molesting her. **In the minds of the defense**.

 

[tankgirl]

I'm still processing this whole deal, but these are the thoughts that permeate my mind right now:

GA was the one who tried to help Tim Miller by begging Casey to mark an 'X' on the map;

GA, after that episode, eventually ended up at the hotel with Tim Miller and the TES crew after Cindy supposedly threw him out for being 'disloyal';

GA was the one who, during his interview with LE (or the FBI?), tried to be as truthful as he could allow himself to be, even stating "I hope this goes no further than between the 3 of us";

GA was the one that did what he could to make Cindy face the truth by going to Sports Authority to confirm his belief that Casey did NOT work there and, true to form, was lying again;

GA was the one who was so distraught during his interview with LE that he actually had to leave to throw-up when discussing the possibility that his daughter could have murdered his beloved Caylee;

GA had obviously expressed his true feelings to his friend from Ohio (name escapes me, but former LE also) when his friend stated, "The answer is in THAT room and the b*tch won't talk";

GA was the one that called the cops when the gas cans were 'stolen' and I don't doubt for a minute he knew exactly who broke in that shed;

GA was the one who found an excuse to go to the trunk of the Pontiac despite Casey's tantrum and took his f'ing gas cans;

GA is the one who testified at the Grand Jury hearing who obviously had damaging testimony that helped to indict his daughter;

George & Cindy's separation was in large part due to disagreements over Casey;

and last, but certainly not least -

I don't believe for a minute that George is on board with this defense plot and willingly playing the role of sacrfical lamb. Yes, I know what he has said in the past, but his body language and his demeanor were real and sincere - his absences from several of the recent hearings post the sexual abuse allegations and especially his demeanor and body language at Thursday's hearings screamed anger, depression, disgust, hurt, betrayal... The pure iciness between he and Cindy - they appear to be on the verge of divorce, imo. I opined a few weeks ago that I think he is reassessing just how willing he is to lie down on those tracks as the train is heading for him....I feel that way more than ever today.


George needs to go spend a few weeks with his friend from Ohio and remove himself from the insanity and pressure. He needs to have a 'Come to meet Jesus' with himself...watch Bambi alone, watch home movies of Caylee and JoJo, go outside and look at the moon and stars -- just channel Caylee and remember how much he loved her and she loved him. Recall all the joy she brought into his life. Those are the influences George needs right now. That is what will help him work through his grief and give him new insight. He MUST get away from Cindy. She is pure poison for him right now, he might as well drink arsenic if he stays around her. George is an easy target and I am sure there was not a 1/2 second of thought about who would be the one to 'take one for the A team' 'cause they stand united, ya know?

Maybe there are things influencing him and giving his pause (other than Cindy, of course ). Maybe he HAS done some things that he fears will be exposed (I don't doubt that at all) - either embarrassing or things that could cause potential legal problems....yes, even criminal. One thing I AM SURE OF, is that George did NOT murder Caylee. If that is the case, I wish the SA would offer him immunity for anything they possibly could and get him on their side...Caylee's side. Divided they WILL fall. I want Caylee's JoJo to be a hero for her.

I pray for George to finally muster the strength, confidence and independence to not allow himself to be used like this. I know she is your daughter, George and you love her, but Casey is a black widow who destroys everyone and everything in her path. Face it, Casey is already 'gone'. Enough people have suffered. Don't do it, George. Don't do it. Please make us proud. Most importantly, make Caylee proud. She needs her JoJo now more than ever. And you need to do it for yourself.

I'm not holding out a lot of hope, because George has never had an easy time of standing up for himself, but I'm pulling for him.

I mostly read/lurk these days, but had to sign in just to say that this is an amazing post. I hope that Jo Jo gets to read it. Thanks Beach.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I mostly read/lurk these days, but had to sign in just to say that this is an amazing post. I hope that Jo Jo gets to read it. Thanks Beach.

I was about to do that too...a big thankyou just didn't seem enough....'beach you are absolutely correct ~

 

[darnudes]

Certainly worth a good thought......BUT........If AL were to feel strongly that KC is innocent.....WHY would she have allowed travel expenses to stand in her way????? AL has more talent in her pinky than the current defense team as a whole.

I just don't see her walking away because her flight wasn't covered. It just doesn't fit into her "profile".

Andrea Lyon did not step down due to financial reasons.

My theory - The last hearing that Lyon attended with the death penalty motions was her undoing.

Casey, Baez or both were neither impressed with the witness she brought in to testify nor the words Andrea chose to use about Casey, the comment, etc.

It is my firm belief that Andrea was pushed by Casey and Baez to leave due solely to the basis of her performance at that hearing. I have reviewed the hearing a few times and I believe all the information is in that hearing, as to why Andrea Lyons bowed out.

 

[Kentjbkent]

Naw, there is only one person who loves to do some leaking ...... sometimes with paper, sometimes with words.

Or sometimes in his drawers as speculated by R. Hornsby!! :woohoo:

 

[countzero]

Or sometimes in his drawers as speculated by R. Hornsby!! :woohoo:

I was attempting to be polite, but you said it better than I could have. Thanks, I am still giggling over this.

 

[Cat13067]

Makes me wonder if he is party to this and it is in the 'script.'

Exactly my thoughts! It's all about let's play "confuse the jury". There is no way this one is going to fly with anyone. This stinks of CM! I'm sure they told George not to come to those court hearings just so people would start talking about him feeling guilty his daughter is sitting in court for a crime he committed. Nice try!!!! Too bad it's not going to work. If there was any possibility that George was nvolved in Caylee's murder the prosecution would have been all over it. They want to prosecute the person who killed Caylee, and they got their person, and it's not JG, RM, AH, ZFG, or GA. Jeez, nobody is safe with these two nitwits defending KC. Perhaps, the A's dogs will be next!