2011.06.21 - SA investigating if Casey got defense theory from inmate.

[concentric]

From my understanding, Casey was segregated, but not isolated. She spent quite a bit of time on the psych floor (according to her letters to Robyn), but was moved to a regular floor. On both floors, she did not share a cell with anyone, but there were others in the neighboring cells. She was not in solitary confinement.

Thinking along similar lines. Maybe someone on the psych. staff could have mentioned to KC that incarcerated at that jail there was another young mother who had lost her young child. Empathy?

I doubt this, but were there occasions when KC would be in a group therapy session at the jail?

 

[Americka]

Thinking along similar lines. Maybe someone on the psych. staff could have mentioned to KC that incarcerated at that jail there was another young mother who had lost her young child. Empathy?

I doubt this, but were there occasions when KC would be in a group therapy session at the jail?

IMO, there are any number of viable scenarios regarding how Casey could have gotten this information. Yours is certainly one of them. She could have heard KW telling this to another cellmate while returning to her cell. In her letters she complains about the noise (including talking) her cellmates make. I am about halfway through her letters to Robyn Adams and although KW's story is not mentioned, that does not mean it was not discussed on those occasions one of the COs (Sylvia Hernandez) allowed RA and Casey to meet. So many possibilities, but I trust the SA to ferret out the truth...

 

[dog.gone.cute]

:waitasec:

I wonder if the SA can also investigate if the "sexual molestation" theory also came from the jail ?

It would be interesting to find out if there were any other inmates who claimed "sexual molestation" by their "father" and "brother" who were in jail with ICA.

I hope the SA continues to investigate whether or not the "drowning theory" came from an inmate in jail.

I am betting that it did ...

 

[grandmaj]

I haven't heard anyone on the shows or K. Belich pick up on the DOB of April yet. They really should read here with our smart posters!

 

[txsvicki]

Casey is said to be a chameleon and is probably very manipulative. She could have gotten a guard to tell her what others were in for, or been asking girls in an adjoining about everyone else. That's about all they have to do in there. Guards are probably gossipy and talk too much. Then that bogus mistress had a sister in there at the same time and could have been spreading word or news giving her even more ideas.

 

[strach304]

Casey is said to be a chameleon and is probably very manipulative. She could have gotten a guard to tell her what others were in for, or been asking girls in an adjoining about everyone else. That's about all they have to do in there. Guards are probably gossipy and talk too much. Then that bogus mistress had a sister in there at the same time and could have been spreading word or news giving her even more ideas.

AW wasn't in jail due to anything involving her sons drowning.

 

[countzero]

From my understanding, Casey was segregated, but not isolated. She spent quite a bit of time on the psych floor (according to her letters to Robyn), but was moved to a regular floor. On both floors, she did not share a cell with anyone, but there were others in the neighboring cells. She was not in solitary confinement.

ICA is in protective custody. Her cell is immediately across from the guards desk. Inmates in this custody are taken one at a time to the showers with a guard watching every move.. They are permitted to get books from a book cart one inmate at a time. She can see and hear the floors in adjacent cell block as well as others in protective custody. She is escorted in shackles and waist chains and cuffs when even she is out of her cell as are the others in protective custody. No other inmates are permitted to be in the area she occupies. Applies to any visitation by phone as well. The only other people permitted to be with her are the DT, and the Chaplain.

Somewhere there is a thread with a drawing of the cell block she occupies as well as a link to the OCSO that has a video of what her cell looks like. NO privacy. NONE. As she earned and deserves.

 

[Oakley]

ICA was at Sawgrass frequently. Her friend Annie Downing (with her boyfriend whose name escapes me) lived there.

BBM Dante Salati. He testified as a state's witness.

 

[Harmony 2]

I watched that video not too long ago - it was linked on here. I can't find it now - I don't remember the drowning part as being someone else - thought it was about Casey/Caylee.

ETA: I searched everywhere - there is a link on here that mentions it but I cannot find the video at all. I remember it - the cat gets up on the table and Cindy is sitting at the table in the dining room.

Thank you Mara for spending the time searching for it... The last time I saw it was three years ago so my recall might be faulty...I vaguely recall Greta asking about the possibility of a drowning accident and Cindy saying no because Casey would have known to get help... also something about a child who had drowned (that part is foggy in my memory and that is why I have looked for it for a long time).

 

[twall]

Orange County Jail officials say April Whalen was housed in the same section of the jail as Casey Anthony for five days in 2009.

http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...ony-cross-paths-with-inmate-whose-son-drowned

April Whalen inmate history

http://www.cfnews13.com/static/articles/images/documents/april-whalen-inmate-history.pdf

She has a meth and ecstasy charge from 2000 so imo drugs are not new to her. Her latest arrest was on 4/14 so I am guessing that is the latest picture of her at the link I posted. She looks like a meth user to me. She's also a thief just like ICA.

According to the above information she was in jail for 5 months in 2009 (5/5-9/15) and spent 5 days in the same section of the jail as ICA.

 

[Kentjbkent]

I still think it is quite possible that Casey was aware of this drowning back in December of 2007 when it happened.

Saw on NG last night that the two homes are only 10 miles apart....this young boy also apparently drowned on Christmas Day so I would assume this emotional detail would attract the attention of the media...

It may have been that when the coincidence of April showing up on the same cellblock as Casey and she recalled who she was, the lightbulb went off...

ETA: Also quite possible that Casey and April went to school together at some point since they are in same school district, so April name may not have been completely unfamiliar to Casey....

 

[Gnatcatcher]

Does anybody know who the 'concerned citizen' is that called this tip in, in the first place? From the sound of her statement to JVM, doesn't seem as though April is the one interested in having this discussion, herself.

 

[MaraSleuth]

Thank you Mara for spending the time searching for it... The last time I saw it was three years ago so my recall might be faulty...I vaguely recall Greta asking about the possibility of a drowning accident and Cindy saying no because Casey would have known to get help... also something about a child who had drowned (that part is foggy in my memory and that is why I have looked for it for a long time).

If it helps - the link on here talks about the video and the date of the post was 8/9/2008 - so the interview had to be done before this date. I looked everywhere and have had no luck. But I know it was linked on here and I watched it a week or 2 ago.

 

[What'sThatClue]

Sorry, accidentally posted this in sidebar thread....WFTV just reported on live tv news that April W's parents say that ICA and AW did talk while AW was in jail but that they only talked about "stupid" things.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

If this is true, it would honestly be a "hear"-"say" defense. :cheerful:

 

[azwriter]

I haven't gone entirely thought this thread but we need input from Whisperer about the Grape Vine system in a jail. If you haven't made a statement yet Whisp, let's hear from you with your knowledge.

JMO

 

[azwriter]

I am am new as well. What a great group, glad I found it!

ICA looks even more evil with every passing day. What a monster. I have to think that anyone on the jury who was unconvinced early in the trial, is probably seeing the light by now...

If the syringe with chloroform or the April Whalen "coincidence" make it in front of the jury I think ICA may be through.

Welcome Elder, we're glad you found us too!

 

[Sabrina2011]

I might be in the minority, I don't really care how, who, when or where she came up with it.

Its a silly story, it is not believable to me, and most of the public so I doubt the jury believes it.

The trouble with muddying up the waters with where she may have heard it is what does it matter? That inmate already claims she never spoke to Casey even though they were in close proximity.

I would not pay attention to it.. the State can go ask some questions, but I would leave it out.

I am convinced Baez will drag this out so his client dies of natural causes (old age) before they sentence her...

 

[Just Jayla]

ICA was at Sawgrass frequently. Her friend Annie Downing (with her boyfriend whose name escapes me) lived there.

Annie and Dante broke up and Annie had moved out well before June 2008. Dante is a member here and there are threads where he addresses this more in depth (NitrousPowrdSS).

 

[katydid23]

I haven't heard anyone on the shows or K. Belich pick up on the DOB of April yet. They really should read here with our smart posters!

What is her DOB? I have heard it discussed but do not get the inference.


ETA: Just found it. June 16th. Weird.