2010.08.16 Tim Miller Interview

[Leila]

I understand where the other poster is coming from. Here all these people are having their records and personal information gone through by a defense that is on a fishing expedition when it is becoming really clear that people other than Casey Anthony knew where Caylee's remains were. I believe one of those people is Cindy Anthony.

There would have been no need for 4,000 people to look for precious Caylee if these people would have told the truth about what they knew. Dominic Casey, IMO, could have ended this much sooner than Dec. 11th, 2008 if he would have just went to LE, but his ego got in the way.

I feel awful for what all these people are going through. They did what was in their heart and tirelessly searched for Caylee Marie and under normal circumstances I believe these people volunteer without expecting anything back in return, but now they may have to end up getting their own lawyers (if they just happen to pique Baez's attention). That is just so wrong.

I'm all for a class action suit against the Anthonys. I'm all for Roy Kronk, Jesse Grund, Amy H., Tony L, Rev. Grund and anyone else who has been attacked by this family. It's better than allowing the A's to get rich and live the "beautiful life."

I think a class action lawsuit is in order too, if for no other reason than to set an example of what happens when someone commits a crime and their family tries to tamper with the evidence, obstruct justice, and blame innocent people for the crime. If the Anthony family gets away with what they've done, there will be other families in the future who will try to do the same.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

Could everyone that came to Orlando from TES sue the A's for costs if the 'false pretences' can be proven? I would love to see all the profits they make from future media deals going straight back into TES coffers....now that would be justice in action IMO.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Could everyone that came to Orlando from TES sue the A's for costs if the 'false pretences' can be proven? I would love to see all the profits they make from future media deals going straight back into TES coffers....now that would be justice in action IMO.

This is a wonderful idea. That would be sweet justice!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Many here have followed the Stacy Peterson case. Stacy disappeared on October 28, 2007 in Bolingbrook, Illinois. TES came in to search in late 2007 or early 2008, and I remember some of the searchers posted here at WS. I don't remember any of them mentioning filling out any paperwork. I wonder if that was a change in procedure between the Peterson case and the Anthony case?

On the bright side for TES, I live in Illinois and I had never heard of TES prior to Caylee's case (I've never followed a case before). Now I see TES on other crime shows and I'll say to my husband with pride "oh look there's TM of Equisearch". To make my point clear, as bad as it was for TES (and still is) being involved with CA and Co., they are more well known now. I hope it will help their donations in the long run.

Regarding SP's case which I followed on the news and still do, yet I've never heard anything about TES having searched for her on the local, general news. Never heard a plea for volunteers although I'm not right near Bollingbrook. My guess would be that the searchers did fill out the general paperwork but it never became a big deal as it shouldn't. I sure wish SP would be found. That goes without saying I guess.

 

[nums24]

Could everyone that came to Orlando from TES sue the A's for costs if the 'false pretences' can be proven? I would love to see all the profits they make from future media deals going straight back into TES coffers....now that would be justice in action IMO.

I hope you don't mind, but I posted your question in the legal thread. :angel::innocent:

 

[Leila]

BBM

I remember this also..... but I have a question.

Did Cindy also say something about this during the "memorial"? I may just be remembering it from what you are talking about, but I could swear she talked about it at the "memorial" (read: pray for KC get-together). PLEASE don't make me go back and watch that to find out..... does anyone know?

TIA!!!

I'm not sure if it was mentioned at the memorial. But after watching the video that was posted, I remembered watching it.

 

[Leila]

In Session Message Boards - View Single Post - Justice for Caylee Anthony! August 17, 2010

Thanks! Reading the transcript has almost as much impact as seeing the video. I picked up on sentences I missed. Tim is, rightfully, very upset about the Anthonys.

 

[LolaMoon08]

On the bright side for TES, I live in Illinois and I had never heard of TES prior to Caylee's case (I've never followed a case before). Now I see TES on other crime shows and I'll say to my husband with pride "oh look there's TM of Equisearch". To make my point clear, as bad as it was for TES (and still is) being involved with CA and Co., they are more well known now. I hope it will help their donations in the long run.

I am right there with you. I'm now addicted to the ID channel and every once in a while I see Tim Miller and Texas Equasearch pop up on an episode and can't help but get excited for him.

 

[Leila]

Hasn't Cindy threatened others with "exclusives?" This woman seriously believes herself to be a celebrity. Does she know that all anyone cares about is Caylee? That once Casey is in jail that none us will ever look back at her or anyone else in her disgusting family? Unless of course they are being charged with crimes relating to the things they have done in this case? I really don't think she understands how disliked she actually is because she has a few people around her who cater to her delusions. I think once this trial is over and no one calls to want an "exclusive" with her that all these hanger-ons will disappear and Cindy will finally get it. It was NEVER about her. It was NEVER about Casey. It is ALL about Caylee. Caylee ONLY.

I think everyone but George and Cindy know that this is about Caylee, not George and Cindy, the "grieving grandparents." I think they will eventually realize that once the trial is over and Casey is in prison, this will cease to be a story and no one will seek them out for an interview. The only interest in them will be if one or both of them is eventually charged for what they've done in this case.

 

[Woe.be.gone]

Fishing for a TES Searcher?

To somehow to authoritatively state they did their own search and were at the exact same spot that Caylee was later found and she was not there at that time .... to suggest that Caylee was dumped after ICA went to jail.

As everyone has said, the tricky part is .... if I go into the woods to search how can I claim I was in the "exact same spot" when in theory Caylee was not there .... so how would I know? What reference would I have to know for sure?

Like searching for a needle in a haystack but you claim that the needle was not where it was found when you looked .... so you'd have to examine every blade of grass on your knees else you might have just missed it.

You can find something now that was not there before but you cannot prove it was not there before in such an overgrown jumble of changing jungle.

Crazy but true. I think the Defense thinks if someone testifies or can be viewed as SODDI then a Juror might buy into it. Can you spell desperation?

Thanks cyberborg. No wonder I didn't completely get it - talk about grabbing at straws. With the car, the 31 days, all the items associated with the A home found at the scene, the charts that will explain the water levels across the majority of the timeframe in question, everyone who LE has interviewed who have testified how high the water was, etc.

If there's any chance the body was moved there after July, it was moved there only because the A's thought the area had already been cleared and that no one would look there again. The A's must have known because why would CA give a darn if people were ground searching if she was so positive they'd never find anything - that's what TES does right? They look for missing people in water, and over rugged land to answer if the person could still be alive or dead. If I called TES, I would think I was calling them to recover my missing person and put an end to my wondering if they were dead or alive. Right? I suppose if TES goes out early enough they may find a lost person and be able to save him. But usually ...

That's how I understand the organization's mission anyway.

 

[cyberborg]

I think a class action lawsuit is in order too, if for no other reason than to set an example of what happens when someone commits a crime and their family tries to tamper with the evidence, obstruct justice, and blame innocent people for the crime. If the Anthony family gets away with what they've done, there will be other families in the future who will try to do the same.

The A family has cost Florida tax payers for an errant wayward search for "Caylee is Alive".

The A family has cost Florida tax payers and TES big time for the multiple searches for Caylee's remains.

The A family is still costing Florida tax payers big time for a slow moving defense case against ICA -- now indigent.

If it goes to trial in May 2011 from June 2008 that is ~3 years of searches, investigation, prosecution and defense for a trivial no-name mother and girl who clearly did the crime. She murdered her daughter and NEVER reported her missing, just told childish silly lies.

When ICA is finally found GUILTY and sentenced to LIFE she will cost Florida tax payers big time to house, feed and, maintain her health.

Now ...... that's a Waste, a HUGE Waste!!!! Justice for Caylee

 

[Trapshooter]

After the Tim Miller interview today, I would bet my life that CA is running around frantically trying to find someone to let her go on tv! You know she is past seething at this point, she is boiling! She is out for revenge and Tim is the target! Remember her on that voice mail message that TM would "never win" with her? She tells TM that she will WIN and that she is not "threatening him" but stating facts.

I would LOVE to know the "facts" she told Tim when she first called him. Did she also tell him "it smells like there's been a dead body in the damn car?"

I am praying that no news station in Orlando will give Cindy the airtime she is so desperately wanting now to disparage Tim Miller!

So guess what Cindy? Looks like Tim Miller WON! He got the last word and will have the last word again at the trial!!!

 

[Woe.be.gone]

I am right there with you. I'm now addicted to the ID channel and every once in a while I see Tim Miller and Texas Equasearch pop up on an episode and can't help but get excited for him.

Did you see the one where TES pulled a car out of the water after some time and the forensic people found an arm hair in the car even though it had been under water. They were able to match that hair to the suspect for further evidence that he had driven the car (that belonged to the victim). That really amazed me.

But the TES people came out when called with their special sonar equipment. It was an easy one for TES because the car was right where it should have been if driven into the lake as LE suspected.

 

[Leila]

Could everyone that came to Orlando from TES sue the A's for costs if the 'false pretences' can be proven? I would love to see all the profits they make from future media deals going straight back into TES coffers....now that would be justice in action IMO.

That really would be poetic justice!

 

[Leila]

On the bright side for TES, I live in Illinois and I had never heard of TES prior to Caylee's case (I've never followed a case before). Now I see TES on other crime shows and I'll say to my husband with pride "oh look there's TM of Equisearch". To make my point clear, as bad as it was for TES (and still is) being involved with CA and Co., they are more well known now. I hope it will help their donations in the long run.

Regarding SP's case which I followed on the news and still do, yet I've never heard anything about TES having searched for her on the local, general news. Never heard a plea for volunteers although I'm not right near Bollingbrook. My guess would be that the searchers did fill out the general paperwork but it never became a big deal as it shouldn't. I sure wish SP would be found. That goes without saying I guess.

I know there was at least one TES search for Stacy, but for some reason, I think there was more. Greta Van Susteran was in Bolingbrook for a week or so, along with Mark Fuhrman, and they showed the searchers. I too wish Stacy would be found.

It may well be Tim Miller's procedure to fill out paperwork on searchers, but it wasn't until the Anthony case that it's become an issue. It's shouldn't be an issue, but I guess all it takes is one underhanded attorney.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Thanks cyberborg. No wonder I didn't completely get it - talk about grabbing at straws. With the car, the 31 days, all the items associated with the A home found at the scene, the charts that will explain the water levels across the majority of the timeframe in question, everyone who LE has interviewed who have testified how high the water was, etc.

If there's any chance the body was moved there after July, it was moved there only because the A's thought the area had already been cleared and that no one would look there again.

I'm sorry to be so graphic, but between the plant growth and how far Caylee's remains were scattered, I don't believe the state will have a hard time convincing a jury that Caylee had been in those woods since June 2008.

They're going to make sure that the jury understands that by the time Caylee was reported missing, that they were no longer searching for a little two-year-old's body, but remains. I'm not very educated on how long it would take a small childs body to decompose in Florida's summer heat, so if anyone wants to chime in with that information, please do.

I believe they may just get a field trip to the actual location. I've seen recent pictures of Suburban Drive, and even though it is not anywhere near as wooded as it was between June-08 and December-08, I think by May that they will become to understand how hard it would have actually been to find what was left of poor Caylee.

The jury is going to see ALL of the pictures. They will see Caylee's remains as they were found. Things we will never get to see (which I don't want to see).

I have no doubt that Casey will be convicted of her crime. As soon as the jury goes in for deliberations, I'm headed to Orlando to wait for the moment they say "The jury has reached a verdict" and I will be in front of that courthouse. I don't think it will take more than a few days for the jury to come back with a guilty verdict.

 

[cyberborg]

I'm sorry to be so graphic, but between the plant growth and how far Caylee's remains were scattered, I don't believe the state will have a hard time convincing a jury that Caylee had been in those woods since June 2008.

They're going to make sure that the jury understands that by the time Caylee was reported missing, that they were no longer searching for a little two-year-old's body, but remains. I'm not very educated on how long it would take a small childs body to decompose in Florida's summer heat, so if anyone wants to chime in with that information, please do.

I believe they may just get a field trip to the actual location. I've seen recent pictures of Suburban Drive, and even though it is not anywhere near as wooded as it was between June-08 and December-08, I think by May that they will become to understand how hard it would have actually been to find what was left of poor Caylee.

The jury is going to see ALL of the pictures. They will see Caylee's remains as they were found. Things we will never get to see (which I don't want to see).

I have no doubt that Casey will be convicted of her crime. As soon as the jury goes in for deliberations, I'm headed to Orlando to wait for the moment they say "The jury has reached a verdict" and I will be in front of that courthouse. I don't think it will take more than a few days for the jury to come back with a guilty verdict.

Exactly!!! This is a very important and concrete point.

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It is not just the plant growth but the overall animal activity and scattering of remains across an acre. That takes time and you cannot dump remains that late and get the same results. You would not get the same animal activity on skeletal remains that had previously been elsewhere for weeks than decomposing remains of days.

 

[logicalgirl]

Exactly!!! This is a very important and concrete point.

:clap::clap::clap::clap:

It is not just the plant growth but the overall animal activity and scattering of remains across an acre. That takes time and you cannot dump remains that late and get the same results. You would not get the same animal activity on skeletal remains that had previously been elsewhere for weeks than decomposing remains of days.

Didn't I read it would take less than two weeks in the Florida heat? Before the body would be completely skeletonized? I remember being shocked when I read that.

 

[RR0004]

Okay...I hate to throw water on the discussion...but IMO...Cindy never wanted for TES to be involved. Yes, she had to ask them in order for them to come, but she was IMO under extreme pressure to do so. The public couldn't understand why she didn't call sooner. Having been here from the beginning, I can tell you it was discussed A LOT. I think she bowed to the pressure because...once again...it would look bad if she didn't. She went into it with a cr*ppy attitude...and she still has that cr*ppy attitude. It doesn't make what she did or what she said right...but suing her isn't going to fix anything IMHO.

 

[mitzi]

Well now I completely expect JB to ask JP to do an extension on the deposition deadline, JB will claim there is no way that he can look thru all of these files and figure out who might need to be deposed (harrassed)....I hope JP will nip that in the bud and quick.

ITA agree with you. I hope that LDB and JA will at that time object with proof of how many depositions the defense has cancelled, some even twice. Maybe HHJP will give them a short time period, like one month to get it done. Judge Perry is determined that the trial will NOT be delayed again.