2010.08.16 Tim Miller Interview

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To remind, there are whole threads on all of the above mentioned subjects - animal movement, water movement and rainfall, plant growth along with bug activity that goes along with it, etc. Oh and also possible transfer evidence that might have taken place from the A's backyard to the site where Caylee was found. Also ways to test the Pontiac to see if it had any evidence stuck to it compatible to the site, etc. It's amazing to me what all the experts can ascertain from angles the average person would never think of.
 
Okay...I hate to throw water on the discussion...but IMO...Cindy never wanted for TES to be involved. Yes, she had to ask them in order for them to come, but she was IMO under extreme pressure to do so. The public couldn't understand why she didn't call sooner. Having been here from the beginning, I can tell you it was discussed A LOT. I think she bowed to the pressure because...once again...it would look bad if she didn't. She went into it with a cr*ppy attitude...and she still has that cr*ppy attitude. It doesn't make what she did or what she said right...but suing her isn't going to fix anything IMHO.

Oh I didn't know that. I've heard her say that TM promised her to look for an alive Caylee which is not exactly what they do. I know her attitude turned cr*ppy the minute she realized that TES's emphasis was on searching bodies of water and woods. I hadn't realized that CA was pressured to call them in the first place.

You'd think she would have been too busy going door-to-door looking for an alive Caylee to notice what TES was doing. :waitasec: Oh, I forgot, that never happened. :croc:
 
Oh I didn't know that. I've heard her say that TM promised her to look for an alive Caylee which is not exactly what they do. I know her attitude turned cr*ppy the minute she realized that TES's emphasis was on searching bodies of water and woods. I hadn't realized that CA was pressured to call them in the first place.

You'd think she would have been too busy going door-to-door looking for an alive Caylee to notice what TES was doing. :waitasec: Oh, I forgot, that never happened. :croc:

They were too busy searching myspace, driving a sign around, and looking at applications for unpaid personal assistants. Seriously, they had to know what was up. They knew Casey. They were trying to discourage anyone from finding the body.
 
You'd think she would have been too busy going door-to-door looking for an alive Caylee to notice what TES was doing. :waitasec: Oh, I forgot, that never happened. :croc:

Cindy? Door to door? What ever gave you that idea? Oh? Cindy said so? :floorlaugh:
 
:banghead:

Just a question. If someone starts a non-profit but pays themselves 90% of the donated money is that still legal?

From my experience at 2 non-profits - YES. But it must be reported to the IRS, and ANYONE! has the RIGHT to ask to see ANY non-profits financial records at ANY time. You do not have to have ever donated....you do not have to live in the same state...the non-profit might ask for a "copying charge" or "48 hours to produce the records,

BUT

The public has the right to KNOW everything about the financials of any non-profit.

apologies if this has already been answered.
 
Okay...I hate to throw water on the discussion...but IMO...Cindy never wanted for TES to be involved. Yes, she had to ask them in order for them to come, but she was IMO under extreme pressure to do so. The public couldn't understand why she didn't call sooner. Having been here from the beginning, I can tell you it was discussed A LOT. I think she bowed to the pressure because...once again...it would look bad if she didn't. She went into it with a cr*ppy attitude...and she still has that cr*ppy attitude. It doesn't make what she did or what she said right...but suing her isn't going to fix anything IMHO.


So glad you posted that! I was going to post the same thing. I remember how Cindy "asked" TES to come, but only because the public could not understand why she wouldn't! But when they came, it was with "conditions", only look for a "live" Caylee. It was so obvious she did not want them there. Then she went on to prove it by acting in such an abhorent way, eventually going so far as to try to ruin TM's reputation. It was so transparent! Her actions to this day are unbelievable and unforgivable. Not even a thank you. I still wonder why they have not used the Kidfinders Boat for anything but a "day cruise". How can they get up each morning without feeling so ashamed! God Bless Tim Miller. Loved his interview today!
 
As far as I know, it may be different in FL, attorneys aren't allowed it small claims. It's mano a mano.



If you have CC receipts for your hotel and can get proof from TES that you were there at that time it would be enough to go to court with. Even if you lose you still win. JMO



Yep. True story. Even if you lose you win. $35 bucks well spent. The Anthonys can't use a lawyer or even SPEAK about one. If they don't show up - you win.
 
YEP ~ that's them in all of their Glory.
Everytime I see or think of THAT boat, I see George with that 🤬🤬🤬🤬 eating grin on his face, like a little boy that finally got the toy that he has always wanted.

Now, for a real belly laugh, go look at their page for becoming a member; rules and regulations and their expectations.
They want you to recruit at least one member a month if you can, and, if you do, you will be rewarded with a $10 VISA gift card ~!!!

http://extremesearchandrescue.com/guidelines.pdf

Isn't that called a Ponzi Scheme????? JMO.
 
They were too busy searching myspace, driving a sign around, and looking at applications for unpaid personal assistants. Seriously, they had to know what was up. They knew Casey. They were trying to discourage anyone from finding the body.
...and that is the key. They didn't want anybody to find poor Caylee.
 
Very true. This strategy originated from Macaluso and he was the methods and procedures guy ..... so they attack the credibility of TES organization?

Also, maybe to show there were many independent searches and searchers, although you don't need TES records since it is well documented but why not go after TES (CA requires that) -- trampling over that area (cover for SODDI)?

Makes me think now that CA just wants to embarass TM given her involvement with JB to force MN's hand.



I think you make a very viable point.
 
Yep!! Did ya catch the picture of George and his crew on the SS Caylee Marie "in service"? Wonder how much fish they caught that day?:loser:

I'd bet dollars to donuts that boat sees more fishing trips than it does searches. I'd be willing to bet it's done under the guise of "state of the art search equipment testing" or some such horse hockey.

It is simply unconscionable what the defense and the Anthony "family" have done to Tim and his organization, and it's a double whammy, since the defense is now trying to get access to the volunteers. (Yes they CLAIM they want to ask about the area being underwater, but we all know they will pounce on any opportunity to find a scapegoat, disguised as their responsibility as attorneys).

The Anthonys have helped to drain TES' funds, and have hampered future services and really indirectly damaged those children in need of TES' services. I might understand this if there were something questionable with the searchers, but we know they're not involved, and that Casey killed Caylee.

Now THIS is something I'd love to see addressed as part of "Caylee's law" if that ever materializes. I hope the legislature takes note of the need to rectify this. It's amazing the people we have to share this planet with. Utterly disgusting.

:clap:

I hope a lot of law changes come out of this.

YEP ~ that's them in all of their Glory.
Everytime I see or think of THAT boat, I see George with that 🤬🤬🤬🤬 eating grin on his face, like a little boy that finally got the toy that he has always wanted.

Now, for a real belly laugh, go look at their page for becoming a member; rules and regulations and their expectations.
They want you to recruit at least one member a month if you can, and, if you do, you will be rewarded with a $10 VISA gift card ~!!!

http://extremesearchandrescue.com/guidelines.pdf


A few observations here;

*Dues?! Seriously!? Dues?!

* These people being involved with teenage girls who have problems makes me extremely uncomfortable.

*Recruit members and get a reward?! Seriously?! Is this a charitable foundation or Amway?

*Dues?! Seriously?! Dues?!

*IIRC, charitable foundation accounting records have to be made public and I hope the regulatory agencies and just everyday accountants that care go over those documents with a fine tooth comb three times every time they're released.

*Dues?! Seriously?! Dues?!

*Unfortunately if I never came to this board I'd probably believe they were on the up and up. :tsktsk:

*I'd bet a life in hades that these "charities" are not 100% above board. Isn't this the same guy who impersonated a police officer and expected 90% commission on his fund raising from Crimestoppers?

Yes it is;

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Link

Man Who Runs Kid Finders Gets Physical During Interview

...Eyewitness News has also learned that the president of Crime Stoppers in south Florida had a restraining order against Milstead after he allegedly tried to connive a 90-percent cut of any donations he solicited for the group. At the time, Milstead was operating a business called Gotcha Billboards, but he was reportedly representing himself as an employee of the non-profit Crime Stoppers.

Milstead's Kid Finders Network mentions its intentions to raise funds a number of times, mainly so it says it can build more billboards to report on missing children. Its list of accomplishments does not include finding any missing children.

Eyewitness News obtained Kid Finders Network's tax return for its first year in operation, 2006. It shows the organization borrowed $4,800 from someone to get started. It's listed as an asset and a debt. Kid Finders' 2007 return has not yet been submitted.

Fifteen minutes after Eyewitness News confronted them, Kid Finders packed up their posters and their donation cup and they left....


*I can understand a grieving family being suckered in by these scheisters but after all the facts come out and they are still involved is sickening. Even more so that they let the name of their GD be used on the side of the boat.

*Dues?! Seriously?! Dues?!

*I think that since he ran or runs a billboard company that the money raised will end up in the bank accounts of his company or the company of somebody nefariously related to him. They want to build more billboards, I wonder what company will be utilized for that end and at what profit margin? :waitasec:

That reminds me, just before they were heading out to LA, the Orlando mall sighting was in the news and GA did an interview and he said "We think that child (mall) could be Caylee." And I thought, then why are you going to California? They knew all along that Caylee was dead, IMO.

Why let a good trip be spoiled by the finding of your grand daughter? If she's found while you're gone she can wait til you get back. After all it's been a few months what's a few more days?

I honestly believe that CA wants ICA to hang tough and never ever admit guilt, for the sake of the family image and her own guilty conscience.

If ICA never admits to anything, asis her defiant modus operandi then when inevitably found guilty CA forever has plausible deniability that ICA was framed and there is no proof.

If you remove the word "plausible" I agree with you. (not sarcasm aimed at you.)

If KC did confess, CA would insist that KC was tortured or something which forced her to confess even though she really didn't do it.

By the way, can someone explain to me just what exactly the defense thinks one of the TES searchers might have done? As I'm reading this thread, I'm trying to grasp why the records are vital to the defense anyway. All the searchers are assigned to teams correct? I don't get what they think someone could have done to make them responsible for Caylee being found on Suburban Drive? I don't get what the accusation (that would clear KC) is supposed to be. :waitasec:

I'm clueless as to what this whole issue is even about. I do understand why it would be detrimental to TM's organization to cause all of the searchers' personal info to be made public. I totally get that. What does Jose think one of the searchers may have done that would clear KC?

BBM

They say they want to question searchers about the water levels during the searches. I believe they are looking for something in somebodies past they can use to aim the bus at.

Very true. This strategy originated from Macaluso and he was the methods and procedures guy ..... so they attack the credibility of TES organization?

Also, maybe to show there were many independent searches and searchers, although you don't need TES records since it is well documented but why not go after TES (CA requires that) -- trampling over that area (cover for SODDI)?

Makes me think now that CA just wants to embarass TM given her involvement with JB to force MN's hand.

I hope she keeps on trying to embarrass him because it's having the complete opposite effect. I hope that this pub will increase awareness and donations for TES.

*Dues?! Seriously?! Dues?!
 
From my experience at 2 non-profits - YES. But it must be reported to the IRS, and ANYONE! has the RIGHT to ask to see ANY non-profits financial records at ANY time. You do not have to have ever donated....you do not have to live in the same state...the non-profit might ask for a "copying charge" or "48 hours to produce the records,

BUT

The public has the right to KNOW everything about the financials of any non-profit.

apologies if this has already been answered.

Is there a legal limit on the amount each copied page can be?
 
Okay...I hate to throw water on the discussion...but IMO...Cindy never wanted for TES to be involved. Yes, she had to ask them in order for them to come, but she was IMO under extreme pressure to do so. The public couldn't understand why she didn't call sooner. Having been here from the beginning, I can tell you it was discussed A LOT. I think she bowed to the pressure because...once again...it would look bad if she didn't. She went into it with a cr*ppy attitude...and she still has that cr*ppy attitude. It doesn't make what she did or what she said right...but suing her isn't going to fix anything IMHO.

Dear Sweet RR, I humbley beg to differ....If everyone requested the financial records of their ( the A's) 501 (c) 3, they (the A's) might just end up being too damn busy covering their own behinds instead of going out and harrassing good-hearted innocent people. JMO.
 
ITA agree with you. I hope that LDB and JA will at that time object with proof of how many depositions the defense has cancelled, some even twice. Maybe HHJP will give them a short time period, like one month to get it done. Judge Perry is determined that the trial will NOT be delayed again.

From your keyboard to Gods ears.........
 
Is there a legal limit on the amount each copied page can be?

I know there is....but IRS rules state"no gouging or stalling". But in today's environment! Everything should be in an email file!!!!! (No printing cost for the org!)
 
gonna go locate the link for the IRS rules & regs on non-profits...501 (c)3's
brb.




Then maybe next I will find the time to change my profile pic. (I know, I know..I'm a month behind.)
 
Question for the mods;

Is it possible to get an area that lists WS approved charities? It could come with a reminder that many charities are run by charlatans and that WS has found these, listed, charities to be above board and suggests them?
 
Question for the mods;

Is it possible to get an area that lists WS approved charities? It could come with a reminder that many charities are run by charlatans and that WS has found these, listed, charities to be above board and suggests them?

I'll ask Tricia. :)
 
Question for the mods;

Is it possible to get an area that lists WS approved charities? It could come with a reminder that many charities are run by charlatans and that WS has found these, listed, charities to be above board and suggests them?

This is a free choice issue - maybe you don't care if 50% of your donation goes to "overhead" if you have a cause that REALLY NEEDS TO GET OFF THE GROUND. (not shouting!!!) Just that sometimes things are immediate!!
However, if you want to CONSIDER who to give $100.00 or $1,000.00 to at the end of the year for tax purposes, you have the RIGHT to PERUSE non-profit tax records and make your OWN decision if your money is being spent in the fashion you expected it would be.

ps - steely dan (my FAVORITE GROUP SINCE 1972?) I meant the "collective YOU", not you- you!!!!!! No hard feelings?????
 
I'll ask Tricia. :)

If it's done the warning should also include a link to site that does due diligence on charities.

I found this one Charity Navigator by doing a Google search. I can't vouch for it because I just found it. They don't have a page for TES or KFN but here's some examples I found.

Here is a page for a five star charity by their methods;

Advocates for Children of New York


Here's the writeup for a one star charity;

Big Brothers Big Sisters of Central Arizona


This is for a zero star charity;

Agape Villages
 
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