2010.09.14 New Defense Attorney, Ann E. Finnell, Introduced

[shotzie]

I don't care if 20 more come aboard..in the next 8 months we have to wait, they will probably drop by the wayside..The state I believe has a strong case, so let the Defense spin their wheels,,I have faith Casey will found "GUILTY" an Justice for Caylee..

 

[nums24]

BBM.

While these new attorney's are offering their 'services' for FREE my understanding is that is their 'time' ... not their 'expenses' and 'costs' incurred in using other 'services'.

So while the term 'pro bono' is used to suggest the attorney is donating time ... there is still an increasing real cost to the State of Florida. Correct?

I really don't know, I answered you on the invoice thread, but maybe you should ask your question on the legal thread.

It was my understanding that all costs not previously approved would have to back to HHJP and get approved by the JAC.

 

[nums24]

Current Case she is working on:

http://www.crestviewbulletin.com/news/trial-11232-ates-judge.html

 

[nums24]

BBM.

While these new attorney's are offering their 'services' for FREE my understanding is that is their 'time' ... not their 'expenses' and 'costs' incurred in using other 'services'.

So while the term 'pro bono' is used to suggest the attorney is donating time ... there is still an increasing real cost to the State of Florida. Correct?

Here is a memo from the JAC, maybe these will help:

http://justiceadmin.com/court_app_counsel/contracts/IFC memo 2010 statutory changes.pdf

Here is the attorney agreement from the JAC:

http://justiceadmin.com/ind_for_cost/Notices/IFC 5-11-10.pdf

 

[cyberborg]

So ........ AF is joining the team primarily to replace AL and argue the DP penalty phase.

RH in his blog asserts that Sims value is not in arguing the autopsy / manner of death more so than the penalty phase and to suggest that ICA has 'issues' that are not insanity per se but border on it.

It seems that a lot of Defense assets are focused on the Penalty phase and saving ICA from the DP when there is not so much focused on the Guilt phase.

For the Guilt phase they do seem to be focused, currently on the smell in the trunk both to discredit YM as well as use DCS to eliminate the air sample testing.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

So the evidence of death in the trunk is their main obstacle yes? Well that is true because she had access to the car, and therefore if it can be proven that Caylee's body was in it, then that's going to ruin all chances of SODDI defense.

I thought the discovery of Caylee's hair with the distinctive death banding was fairly definitive proof that her body was in that trunk.

So not surprised they focusing on mitigation.

 

[Turnadot]

So the evidence of death in the trunk is their main obstacle yes? Well that is true because she had access to the car, and therefore if it can be proven that Caylee's body was in it, then that's going to ruin all chances of SODDI defense.

I thought the discovery of Caylee's hair with the distinctive death banding was fairly definitive proof that her body was in that trunk.

So not surprised they focusing on mitigation.

BBM

Yes, me too.

 

[Velouria]

AF comparing the media to stalkers was stupid and her and the rest of them making fun of Tennessee was juvenile and rude. Stupid, juvenile and rude...just what I would expect of the defenders of a child killer.

Oh! And CM whining about right wing conservative Florida.....spit!....left wing liberals despise baby killers, too!!

These people make me cranky!

Heh.

I'm rubbing all the fur off my lucky faux rabbit's foot and wishing like holy heck that the foreman of Casey's jury is a transplant from Tennessee...:innocent:

 

[chelle70]

So the evidence of death in the trunk is their main obstacle yes? Well that is true because she had access to the car, and therefore if it can be proven that Caylee's body was in it, then that's going to ruin all chances of SODDI defense.

I thought the discovery of Caylee's hair with the distinctive death banding was fairly definitive proof that her body was in that trunk.

So not surprised they focusing on mitigation.

31 days is another gigantic obstacle. I don't care how many "lawyers" come and go, she is still guilty.

 

[LancelotLink]

Here's a photo of A. Finnell
http://www.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/06/murder-on-a-sunday-morning.png&imgrefurl=http://www.ferdyonfilms.com/%3Fpaged%3D2&usg=__iSHgfAJBdZoK_r5ilwBx_b9oKkw=&h=448&w=800&sz=592&hl=en&start=0&zoom=1&tbnid=CAoRCuJlw3k5HM:&tbnh=131&tbnw=180&prev=/images%3Fq%3DAttorney,%2BAnn%2BE.%2BFinnell%26um%3D1%26hl%3Den%26client%3Dfirefox-a%26sa%3DN%26rlz%3D1R1GGGL_en___US349%26biw%3D1278%26bih%3D613%26tbs%3Disch:1&um=1&itbs=1&iact=hc&vpx=113&vpy=347&dur=1186&hovh=168&hovw=300&tx=153&ty=167&ei=BpaPTMzjD4L98AbM26mlDQ&oei=BpaPTMzjD4L98AbM26mlDQ&esq=1&page=1&ndsp=19&ved=1t:429,r:13,s:0

Thanks. I think I remember that case from the photo.

 

[Mrs G Norris]

So basically, since they couldn't / didn't negotiate a plea they are in the position of defending a client against a charge of capital murder, in a case where the cause of death is not established, and their only wiggle room is between LWOP or the DP.

I still think they only have themselves to blame, and a superior lawyer would have negotiated something for Casey (after spelling out the cold facts to her) in the first few months.

I also don't think that Baez ever had the best interests of his client in mind, he has been in it for himself, and a trial was part of the marketing package.

The whole thing is so far from justice for Caylee that it just makes me sick.

 

[ExpectingUnicorns]

So the evidence of death in the trunk is their main obstacle yes? Well that is true because she had access to the car, and therefore if it can be proven that Caylee's body was in it, then that's going to ruin all chances of SODDI defense.

I thought the discovery of Caylee's hair with the distinctive death banding was fairly definitive proof that her body was in that trunk.

So not surprised they focusing on mitigation.

The car is a huge obstacle, I agree. But I think the biggest obstacle is that Casey was the last known person to have access to Caylee. And other than her transparent lies about ZFG she remains silent on her accountability.

I often become mired in the details of disproving all of Casey's lies. But the simple fact that Casey was the last person to be with Caylee and is unable or unwilling to provide a feasible account of what happened to her is, at least to me, the the weightiest fact pointing to her guilt!

 

[Mrs G Norris]

I love that there is so much evidence pointing to her guilt that we all have differing opinions on which one is the most damning.....that really says it all doesn't it. No debate on guilt here at all, hasn't been any since around day 32 has there?

Plead or risk the needle, there's your options.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

The car is a huge obstacle, I agree. But I think the biggest obstacle is that Casey was the last known person to have access to Caylee. And other than her transparent lies about ZFG she remains silent on her accountability.

I often become mired in the details of disproving all of Casey's lies. But the simple fact that Casey was the last person to be with Caylee and is unable or unwilling to provide a feasible account of what happened to her is, at least to me, the the weightiest fact pointing to her guilt!

Yep. She has never told anyone where she left Caylee or what happened to her. Just two easily disproven nonsense stories.

 

[Bobbisangel]

Heh.

I'm rubbing all the fur off my lucky faux rabbit's foot and wishing like holy heck that the foreman of Casey's jury is a transplant from Tennessee...:innocent:

I can't stand to listen to or look at those two attorneys. By the time the trial starts I may not even beable to watch it. Baez and Mason make me sick to my stomach. Baez thinks he is such a stud and Mason doesn't think at all.

 

[Bobbisangel]

The other attorney's are working pro-bono:

New Casey Attorneys Taking On Case For Free

http://www.wftv.com/news/25001357/detail.html

Pro Bono and for free are the same thing....not getting paid.

 

[Aedrys]

I love that there is so much evidence pointing to her guilt that we all have differing opinions on which one is the most damning.....that really says it all doesn't it. No debate on guilt here at all, hasn't been any since around day 32 has there?

Plead or risk the needle, there's your options.

Well there's a few still around, and a few big ones not around anymore that support Casey. But it's funny, those voices are so small now that you'd think they hadn't been here at all.

But yes, biggest slam dunk case I've ever seen. There's nothing the defense can possibly do to win this or save Casey's life.

 

[wildchild1961]

So ........ AF is joining the team primarily to replace AL and argue the DP penalty phase.

RH in his blog asserts that Sims value is not in arguing the autopsy / manner of death more so than the penalty phase and to suggest that ICA has 'issues' that are not insanity per se but border on it.

It seems that a lot of Defense assets are focused on the Penalty phase and saving ICA from the DP when there is not so much focused on the Guilt phase.

For the Guilt phase they do seem to be focused, currently on the smell in the trunk both to discredit YM as well as use DCS to eliminate the air sample testing.

As usual with the defense team... its more about what they AREN'T saying rather than what they do say.

So what the defense is ACTUALLY saying, is that with the addition of AF, Andrea Lyons is apparently NOT coming back after all, to assist with the penalty phase. Now how did KC say that? "Surprise Surprise".

AL was supposed to be the new wonder woman for the team when she joined and we seen how THAT panned out when she got a good taste of JB's act and the actual evidence (or lack thereof) depending on which side you are on. AL doesn't even want to come back and be associated with the penalty phase.. she's had more than enough of the good ship KC and it's assorted crew of sideshow attractions.

wild

 

[wildchild1961]

31 days is another gigantic obstacle. I don't care how many "lawyers" come and go, she is still guilty.

How does that famous phrase go? Something like.. "1000 monkeys typing for 1000 years on 1000 typewriters... will eventually turn out the collected works of Shakespeare"? Something like that anyways... lolol

KC will EVENTUALLY get a team that finally makes it all the way to trial! Even if JB has to add them to the team the night before the trial starts by gawd!

wild

 

[Just Jayla]

Bill Sheaffer's piece on this press conference was very good-If I were an attorney, I would not touch this case with a 40 foot pole-There is no amount of notariety that would entice me here, because on the back end, these attorneys may do a lot of damage to their own careers, JB in particular.
Mr. Mason is in a position to retire, so he is set-This lady might be, too-But JB is young in his field, and I can only figure he must feel that he will gain from this....I just can't see how, in the long run.

http://www.wftv.com/video/25008726/index.html

ETA-I think Ms. Lyon saw the writing on the wall and bid us adieu for many of the reasons Bill states.