2010.09.21 Doc release: Interview - Joe Jordan

[ExpectingUnicorns]

Tim said in the interview I listened to today that at the end of each day people were supposed to turn their search sheets into the office but there were so many people there it was hard to keep track of all the forms and no one would have known if someone didn't turn theirs in.

So I suppose if you were in a really busy area with people signing up with their ID, would it have been easy for someone to pick up one and be accidently handed another one by one of the leaders or organizers - fill out one and palm the other?

Can someone who was there answer if that was possible?

I worked that table during what I refer to as "the big search" along with 2 and sometimes 3 other people. I was instructed to check the form for completeness, check their photo ID, watch them sign the application and compare it against their ID signature. I didn't see anyone who didn't already have a form in hand that was already filled out. I didn't see any blank application forms there nor did I ever hear anyone ask for one to fill out. I was under the impression that they had all probably downloaded, printed and completed their applications before they arrived ~ just as I had done.

Can't tell you much about the search area forms being turned in at the end of the day as I wasn't involved with that aspect. I do know it took my son quite some time to discover where to turn his in as there was some confusion. I am pretty sure that only the team leaders were involved with these forms ~ not each individual searcher.

I know this doesn't really answer many questions but thought it might give you a better idea of how the process worked (from my limited perspective). It was super busy with all those volunteers and I'm sure I missed a lot of things that were going on around me!

 

[trafficsUP66]

Laura Buchanan?

Yup.

Was just going thru the thread to try and find a link to that last hearing to post....think I watched it on wftv

 

[pip]

Not to mention, JJ got the feeling Mort was asking very leading questions-plus the threat of exposing JJ's domestic relations issues that JJ felt looming.

What kind of PI does that sort of stuff, anyway? Well, okay besides DC and Mort...Isn't the point of being a PI to find out to truth and report to client? It's like hiring a PI to spy on your cheating spouse, and the PI comes back with photoshopped pics-Causes more harm than good and is pointless-Do they do this to justify their existence in this case? Go back to Chi-town, then Mort, and find a legit job.

Baez also spent the past year screaming JJ's name on TV. I get it now. He was planning on throwing Joe under the bus by falsifying docs to 'prove' Joe searched there.
There is no bottom to the deviant behavior. Baez really wants to win.. no..he NEEDS to win, so anything goes.

 

[trafficsUP66]

So the copy the state had that didn't match--does this mean that some one was going to slip the 'original' in one of the boxes at the TES attorney's office while they were there 'flagging' those that the def was interested in???

Can't help wondering with this crew.......

And, wonder if they're going to have to go through all the records to be sure there isn't a match to the 'bogus' one presented to LDB???

 

[butterfly1978]

So the copy the state had that didn't match--does this mean that some one was going to slip the 'original' in one of the boxes at the TES attorney's office while they were there 'flagging' those that the def was interested in???

Can't help wondering with this crew.......

And, wonder if they're going to have to go through all the records to be sure there isn't a match to the 'bogus' one presented to LDB???

thats what i'm thinking they were planning. I just hope that JB wasn't able to slip the doc. in there last time they went to MN office and was rude and left. I hope they didnt have the time to slip it in there

 

[pip]

Cheating to win is not beneath Baez, imo. With his life track record reflecting a weak moral compass, reckless irresponsibility and self-centeredness.. (can't pay child support, need a fancy car and big houses..) I believe Baez only has his eyes on the golden ring and nothing or no one else matters. A well documented pattern. This case is that ONE big case most lawyers only dream of catching. Baez sees it as his jump off into the big league and big money.. an opportunity that may never pass his way again. Yeah. I think he would cheat and claw eyes out to win this one. He wants status, big houses, fancy cars and friends like Geraldo and Geragos types.

 

[pip]

thats what i'm thinking they were planning. I just hope that JB wasn't able to slip the doc. in there last time they went to MN office and was rude and left. I hope they didnt have the time to slip it in there

I hope NeJame planned ahead and fully documented every piece of paper in those boxes.

 

[faefrost]

I hope NeJame planned ahead and fully documented every piece of paper in those boxes.

Wasn't there some discussion about the fraudulent document awhile back? I seem to vaguely recall TM or MN clearly stating that no it was not a part of their records, it was a falsified document? And that there was more that indicated that it was false then the simple fact that it was not in their files. The actual content of the document had some conflict with known confirmed reality of the day it supposedly documented. Something about it quickly and clearly raised a red flag to both the SA and TES.

 

[trafficsUP66]

thats what i'm thinking they were planning. I just hope that JB wasn't able to slip the doc. in there last time they went to MN office and was rude and left. I hope they didnt have the time to slip it in there

I think MN watched him like a hawk. Then again, all it takes is a sec. Phone rings, MN looks the other way.......

I remember once JB asked judge SS if he could appoint a 'master' to go in with his crew.....WITHOUT MN or TM in company. That would've been his opportunity--stick around for hours til the guy has to use the restroom......

If he hasn't gone yet, think the judge will order a recording?? Like with the experts handling the evidence??

Pretty bad when one cannot trust an officer of the court.

 

[pip]

I think MN watched him like a hawk. Then again, all it takes is a sec. Phone rings, MN looks the other way.......

I remember once JB asked judge SS if he could appoint a 'master' to go in with his crew.....WITHOUT MN or TM in company. That would've been his opportunity--stick around for hours til the guy has to use the restroom......

If he hasn't gone yet, think the judge will order a recording?? Like with the experts handling the evidence??

Pretty bad when one cannot trust an officer of the court.

MN said he was respectful and stayed in his office down the hall, available to them if needed.

ETA: Or, it was that he wasn't there but his female law partner was in her office down the hall for them and he was available by phone..I think this was it..

 

[pip]

HaHa..we can only hope a video is released in that room that day..

 

[trafficsUP66]

Cheating to win is not beneath Baez, imo. With his life track record reflecting a weak moral compass, reckless irresponsibility and self-centeredness.. (can't pay child support, need a fancy car and big houses..) I believe Baez only has his eyes on the golden ring and nothing or no one else matters. A well documented pattern. This case is that ONE big case most lawyers only dream of catching. Baez sees it as his jump off into the big league and big money.. an opportunity that may never pass his way again. Yeah. I think he would cheat and claw eyes out to win this one. He wants status, big houses, fancy cars and friends like Geraldo and Geragos types.

But he's going to get KARMA instead.........it's inevitable!

 

[trafficsUP66]

HaHa..we can only hope a video is released in that room that day..

I needed that!:bananapowerslide: (eta: Jb dance when he wins one of his morotions?)

Nite!

 

[mikeysmommom]

I needed that!:bananapowerslide: (eta: Jb dance when he wins one of his morotions?)

Nite!

LMAO and I needed that laugh TY!

 

[PassTheMotrin]

So is JJ saying LBuchanan said she was a Kentucky LEO? Isn't she a blogger from New Jersey?

Not sure if this has been mentioned, but isn't she the chic from Jersey that had the freaky dolls for sale on eBay? I think we ran across her a while back...like maybe 1.5 years ago?

 

[MADJGNLAW]

I worked that table during what I refer to as "the big search" along with 2 and sometimes 3 other people. I was instructed to check the form for completeness, check their photo ID, watch them sign the application and compare it against their ID signature. I didn't see anyone who didn't already have a form in hand that was already filled out. I didn't see any blank application forms there nor did I ever hear anyone ask for one to fill out. I was under the impression that they had all probably downloaded, printed and completed their applications before they arrived ~ just as I had done.

Can't tell you much about the search area forms being turned in at the end of the day as I wasn't involved with that aspect. I do know it took my son quite some time to discover where to turn his in as there was some confusion. I am pretty sure that only the team leaders were involved with these forms ~ not each individual searcher.

I know this doesn't really answer many questions but thought it might give you a better idea of how the process worked (from my limited perspective). It was super busy with all those volunteers and I'm sure I missed a lot of things that were going on around me!

Thanks for sharing your experience with the search, and thank you so much for searching for little Caylee may many Blessing's come your way! :blowkiss:

I have been thinking about this doc/search/LB/defense investigator, and have come to the assumption that if true what JJ is saying that he did not search with this lady/in that area, LE will be able to find out with no problem. I hope! If he did not search on the date in question he should have an alibi, and what better alibi than for him to of been at work or else where with others to back up his where abouts. If LE can prove that JJ was not there on the date in question through solid alibi I question what is going to happen next to LB and the defense team. I am not sure if there is more than one person in question here, as the articles are kind of hard to comprehend for me anyway. One article says that the searcher was an investigator for the defense team, then we have the name LB out there. I am confused as to whom they are referring to when it comes to the search/doc in question. The way I understood it there was two searches? :loser: I am so confused...:loser:

Prosecutors feel the new information regarding Joe Jordan's illegal interview with Casey Anthony's defense team investigator Buchanan helps put the story together of what happened to Caylee.

"snip" http://www.cfnews13.com/article/new...-photos,-video-and-audio-released-as-evidence

In one interview, Joe Jordan stated the water was knee-deep in September 2008, and they called off the search because the area was flooded.

Jordan told Orange County Sheriff’s investigators he obtained an attorney after secretly recording an interview he had with someone with Casey's defense team. ?Anthony defense investigator Buchanan?

Prosecutors said the new information helps put the story together of what happened to Caylee.

New Evidence: Joe Jordan Does Not Think He Ever Searched with Laura Buchanan

More Photos and Audio Interviews Were Also Released
Updated: Tuesday, 21 Sep 2010, 10:59 PM EDT

"Snip" http://www.myfoxorlando.com/dpp/news/anthony_case/092110-anthony-evidence-released

"The field activity report says Odyssey Middle School. In quotation it had my name on it. It was listed in a female handwriting. I said I didn't search Odyssey Middle School and I didn't search the day they found the cross in Blanchard Park," said Joe Jordan.

Even more concerning to Jordan, months before that meeting he was contacted by another volunteer named Laura Buchanan, a woman who claimed she'd searched with him serving as team leader, who Jordan says filled out the documents he's questioning.

"I don't think I've ever searched with Laura Buchanan. I looked her up on the internet on My-space and Face-book or whatever and I don't recognize the woman," Jordan told investigators.

Investigators told Jordan they'd look into the authenticity of that document that Jordan was shown.

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

I wonder if LE is investigating LB and if charges might be coming her way?

Seems she represented herself as a "game warden" of sorts saying she was with Kentucky LE and worked for the Game and Wildlife department, yet she allegedly lives in NJ...if she is impersonating a police officer and it can be proven, I'd think there would be charges coming her way...I also want to know HOW she is connected to the Anthony family and or Baez?

Why would someone fabricate evidence and risk going to jail?

How does this get Caylee justice???

Seems like her heart wasn't in it for Caylee at all...it's all part of the cover up and I wonder WHO was able to get her to commit a felony by lying about searching, making up a fraudulent document, how does this help Caylee get justice?? Why do people risk their freedom for a nobody like ICA???


Justice for Caylee

 

[jerseygirl48]

Didn't JJ bring some of this controversy on himself? I seem to recall a video, from shortly after Caylee was found, where he stated fairly emphatically that he had searched that area and the remains were not there. Only later did he do an about face and realize that his prior search was not the same exact area. I think he may have been Todd M's missing proof for a while there!

Does anyone else remember that first interview? I tried to find it but I'm limited by "no adobe flash" today.

Edited to add: the interview was with a news station or something, not LE.

 

[Gnatcatcher]

Didn't JJ bring some of this controversy on himself? I seem to recall a video, from shortly after Caylee was found, where he stated fairly emphatically that he had searched that area and the remains were not there. Only later did he do an about face and realize that his prior search was not the same exact area. I think he may have been Todd M's missing proof for a while there!

Does anyone else remember that first interview? I tried to find it but I'm limited by "no adobe flash" today.

Edited to add: the interview was with a news station or something, not LE.

I can't help you with finding an interview, but I can back up what you're saying, if I remember right, he had sent an email to Yuri, or one of the other lead LEOs, saying he'd searched there and found nothing and then once he checked a map, he realized he was incorrect and I believe he apologized and admitted he was wrong.


Can I just say that this entire Laura Buchanen / falsifying documents situation is so richly bizzare, and why isn't it being covered more on the news, rather than Jane Valez Mitchell yelling about brand spanking new photos that were released two years ago already? Why does it seem to me that this particular little nugget seems to go unnoticed by anybody but us? Where's the outrage and outcry? Why isn't a news camera scoping out this Laura Buchanen and bombarding her with questions? Why isn't Cindy ever asked about her relationship with this woman who alleges to be good friends with the Anthonys? WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS KIND OF THING!? :banghead:

 

[LiveLaughLuv]

Didn't JJ bring some of this controversy on himself? I seem to recall a video, from shortly after Caylee was found, where he stated fairly emphatically that he had searched that area and the remains were not there. Only later did he do an about face and realize that his prior search was not the same exact area. I think he may have been Todd M's missing proof for a while there!

Does anyone else remember that first interview? I tried to find it but I'm limited by "no adobe flash" today.

Edited to add: the interview was with a news station or something, not LE.

I can't help you with finding an interview, but I can back up what you're saying, if I remember right, he had sent an email to Yuri, or one of the other lead LEOs, saying he'd searched there and found nothing and then once he checked a map, he realized he was incorrect and I believe he apologized and admitted he was wrong.


Can I just say that this entire Laura Buchanen / falsifying documents situation is so richly bizzare, and why isn't it being covered more on the news, rather than Jane Valez Mitchell yelling about brand spanking new photos that were released two years ago already? Why does it seem to me that this particular little nugget seems to go unnoticed by anybody but us? Where's the outrage and outcry? Why isn't a news camera scoping out this Laura Buchanen and bombarding her with questions? Why isn't Cindy ever asked about her relationship with this woman who alleges to be good friends with the Anthonys? WHO ARE THESE PEOPLE THAT DO THIS KIND OF THING!? :banghead:

I remember this as well. JJ misspoke. He realized he did not search where Caylee was ultimately found. This area is about an acre and might have been confused. I believe when LB approached him, saying she was LE, he didn't think before he spoke. Then when she changed her area of involvement, now saying she is working for the defense, he might have caught on that he was being duped and wanted no part of it..I also remember when Baez stated in court that he was waiting for his witness JJ but he never did show up for that hearing...which is why he recorded his conversations with the private eye...maybe he thought he was being set up as the SOD...JMHO I believe he is an honorable man, will stand by his words and will be found credible, especially realizing someone might have commited fraud by copying the TES documents and fraudulently stateing they searched that area and found nothing...JMHO

I'm sure justice will prevail just as the truth will prevail.

No one has any reason to lie about where they searched unless there is a nefarious, underlying reason to cause doubt and dirty the waters, IOW if someone received some form of payment to out and out lie, either way, I believe this is witness tampering...JMHO


Justice for Caylee