2010.09.25 - Levi's Facebook - Misty questioned again???

[grandmaj]

Thanks for coming in to answer questions Levi. This young lady had better be spilling some beans. Her life depends on it.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Ron's evidence may have been something that can look like Misty is the one that killed Haleigh...not that I believe she is.

 

[Nonni Brenda]

Levi, Thank you for giving us this info...and I think Ron should start to worry.

 

[butterfly1978]

Thank you Levi, Please keep us informed. We love you and appreciate you very much.

 

[Amster]

Seems to me, the time to see if what Ronald is telling matches up with Misty and Tommy was before they granted him a deal! Or...are the DA, etc. all in such of awe of Ronald that whatever he told them is taken as gospel? And, so the screws are being put to Misty until her story matches Ronald's? Games....all just pathetic games! If Ronald has known something about Haleigh's disappearance all of this time and used that info as a bargaining chip...then he should be beneath the jail! :furious::furious:

Bless your heart, Haleigh.

 

[daisy.faithfull]

As charged, she cannot get less that 25 years on each of three charges. The 50 years comes in because one of those three charges is in another county and thus might not run concurrently with the sentence on the remaining charges.

If all Misty's charges were in one county, she might serve a minimum 25 years. With two counties involved she faces possibly serving two separate 25-year minimums.

ETA: If Misty did not harm Haleigh and she comes clean now and tells the truth and the entire truth I would be just fine with all her drug charges being dropped completely.

I don't know about dropping all of the charges. The drug problem in Putnam Co. looks to entrenched to do that. But this is Misty's first offense, so if she did not harm Haleigh I'd be okay with some of the charges being dropped and a light sentence.

Just find Haleigh!

I'm scared that once everyone has been sentenced we'll never know know the truth. I really hope that I am wrong though.

 

[bessie]

Ron had to give them something NEW for him to get the deal. And if Ron was sitting on info for a year and half, to me that only means he was involved, otherwise there is no need for him to not tell LE everything he knows from the get-go.

I don't think it is simply Ron agreeing to testify, because he would HAVE to testify if the prosecution called him to the stand in any case, drugs or in any future murder trial.

The only reason Ron could legally get out of testifying would be if he plead the 5th and didn't want to incriminate himself in anything...

So they are not going to give him a deal for simply testifying, because he would have to testify. It has to be more than that. He had to give them something NEW.

First of all, Levi, thank you so much for keeping us posted and for all of your efforts to uncover the truth about what happened to Haleigh.

I've always believed that Ron was willing to sweep Haleigh's death under the carpet, so to speak, because talking about it would bring to light something he wanted to keep hidden. Some illegal activity that would put him in jail. That was the reason for the cover up, and the reason Ron didn't ask too many questions of Misty. As time went on, he picked up on pieces of the puzzle here and there, but turned a blind eye to avoid opening up a big can of worms. That can of worms was Misty's insurance. As long as Ron was holding on to it, he wasn't going to LE with anything he knew about Haleigh's death. That is, until he found himself facing umpteen years on the drug charges and the SA made him an offer he couldn't refuse, as he might say.

We know you have a can of worms, Ron (which I now think relates to illegal guns). You can go to prison for fifty years on the drug charges, plus we'll nail you for the guns. Or, you can hand the can over to us and we'll try to get rid of it and give you a break on the drug sentence, in exchange for the truth. Everything you know about your daughter's death. Without that can of worms, Ron's got nothing to hold him back. He can sing like a bird. He has to or the deal's off. And if Misty's on suicide watch tonight, that, imo, is the reason why.

So I agree with you that Ron has new information to offer, but not necessarily anything that will incriminate him.

 

[dodie20]

well, I truly believe that if Misty is guilty, coming clean is her best defense. She's going to prison anyway, so why not? If she's honest about what she did & why, I think the courts will show her some mercy. If she's guilty, but keeps lying, she's just gonna pizz off the powers that be, & dig her own grave. But, if she's covering for somebody, even Tommy, her own brother, now is the time to fess up, because she's not doing him any favors. I don't see this as her covering for Ron, but if she's not sure about him, she needs to be up front. Misty being the last to be sentenced, is very telling. I think LE, at the least, suspected her, when they were all arrested. Now? I'm not so sure. But Ron is talking, so she had better talk.

 

[Elphaba]

Where was Misty's lawyer during the interrogation?

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Ron had to give them something NEW for him to get the deal. And if Ron was sitting on info for a year and half, to me that only means he was involved, otherwise there is no need for him to not tell LE everything he knows from the get-go.

I don't think it is simply Ron agreeing to testify, because he would HAVE to testify if the prosecution called him to the stand in any case, drugs or in any future murder trial.

The only reason Ron could legally get out of testifying would be if he plead the 5th and didn't want to incriminate himself in anything...

So they are not going to give him a deal for simply testifying, because he would have to testify. It has to be more than that. He had to give them something NEW.

Why do you think Ron had to give them something new? I really don't understand that. The drug arrest happened in 2010. It is common that the closer it gets to trial time is when a DA decides if they are going to plea it out or go to trial. Imo, Ron has long given the information to LE and the DA knows he will need the information given by Ron at any trial held against those involved in Haleigh's disappearance.

I am not sure you are aware of how plea deals really work. Plea deals are always struck closer to trial time. So RCs case isn't any different than other cases. The plea deal was done in a timely manner just like all plea deals are done. So the timing of the plea deal is just standard protocol and has nothing to do with Ron revealing new information.

Of course he could take the 5th. That is everyone's constitutional right but there is absolutely no evidence that Ron was ever going to do that anyway so that point is moot imo. Also there is no proof that Ron has "sat" on any information.

Defense attorneys have a duty to preform. So Ron's attorney negotiated the plea with the DA by letting the DA know that RC was more than willing to testify about what all he has told LE/DA, against anyone involved in Haleigh's disappearance, and the DA knew he needs RC's testimony if there are arrest(s) concerning those involved in Haleigh's case.

Plea deals like this goes on in our court systems on a daily basis.

IMO

 

[Donjeta]

So he got a plea deal without giving the prosecution anything??

 

[Concerned Papa]

Why do you think Ron had to give them something new? I really don't understand that. The drug arrest happened in 2010. It is common that the closer it gets to trial time is when a DA decides if they are going to plea it out or go to trial. Imo, Ron has long given the information to LE and the DA knows he will need the information given by Ron at any trial held against those involved in Haleigh's disappearance.

I am not sure you are aware of how plea deals really work. Plea deals are always struck close to trial time. So RCs case isn't any different than other cases. The plea deal was done in a timely manner just like all plea deals are done. So the timing of the plea deal is just standard protocol and has nothing to do with Ron revealing new information.

Of course he could take the 5th. That is everyone's constitutional right but there is absolutely no evidence that Ron was ever going to do that anyway so that point is moot imo. Also there is no proof that Ron has "sat" on any information.

Defense attorneys have a duty to preform. So Ron's attorney negotiated the plea with the DA by letting the DA know that RC was more than willing to testify about what all he has told LE/DA, against anyone involved in Haleigh's disappearance, and the DA knew he needs RC's testimony if there are arrest(s) concerning those involved in Haleigh's case.

Plea deals like this goes on in our court systems on a daily basis.

IMO

Whatever the information was, the state did not give him a deal for "a lot of valuable information" that was old.

Shoemaker said Cummings spoke with investigators and "offered a lot of valuable information."

http://www.palatkadailynews.com/articles/2010/09/25/news/news01.txt

If it was new information, he "sat" on it for 19 months.

As to his possibly pleading the 5th, he certainly has that right. However, excercising that right would instantly negate the plea deal where he agreed to truthfully answer ALL questions.

In American criminal law, "taking the Fifth", also known as "pleading the Fifth" or "demanding the fifth", is the act of refusing to testify under oath in a court of law or any other tribunal (such as a Congressional committee) on the ground that the answers that would be given could be used as evidence against the witness to convict him or her of a criminal offense.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pleading_the_Fifth

The expressed consequence for Mr. Cummings can be heard here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDiX_kvZg8

 

[4Jacy]

As charged, she cannot get less that 25 years on each of three charges. The 50 years comes in because one of those three charges is in another county and thus might not run concurrently with the sentence on the remaining charges.

If all Misty's charges were in one county, she might serve a minimum 25 years. With two counties involved she faces possibly serving two separate 25-year minimums.

ETA: If Misty did not harm Haleigh and she comes clean now and tells the truth and the entire truth I would be just fine with all her drug charges being dropped completely.

I certainly would not be "fine" with that! If Misty had known from the beginning what happened to little Haleigh she should have come clean immediately.:banghead:

 

[oceanblueeyes]

So he got a plea deal without giving the prosecution anything??

Absolutely not.

No DA pleas a case without already knowing well in advance what the person is going to testify to...... The DA knows everything Ron has said throughout the time Haliegh has been missing and he knows Ron has agreed to testify about the things he has told them.

IMO

 

[oceanblueeyes]

Whatever the information was, the state did not give him a deal for "a lot of valuable information" that was old.



If it was new information, he "sat" on it for 19 months.

As to his possibly pleading the 5th, he certainly has that right. However, exercising that right would instantly negate the plea deal where he agreed to truthfully answer ALL questions.



The expressed consequence for Mr. Cummings can be heard here:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qUDiX_kvZg8

I don't agree.

From one of your links.

"I think he basically tied up a lot of loose ends, which allows them to formulate their theory as to what happened," Shoemaker said.

Seems they are hard at work on solving this case and went back to tie up any loose ends and asked Ron some more detailed questions pertaining to events and time line he had already told them about so they can tighten their case(s).

Seems to me they are fine tuning the case now which is common when they are close to solving the case.

IMO

 

[Concerned Papa]

I don't agree.

From one of your links.

"I think he basically tied up a lot of loose ends, which allows them to formulate their theory as to what happened," Shoemaker said.

Seems they are hard at work on solving this case and went back to tie up any loose ends and asked Ron some more detailed questions pertaining to events and time line he had already told them about so they can tighten their case(s).

Seems to me they are fine tuning the case now which is common when they are close to solving the case.

IMO

Whether it's fine tuning loose ends, minor information, or major information, it was new information the prosecution had not been given previously by Mr. Cummings.

I'm unable to imagine any circumstance that would justify withholding ANY information from LE that is relevant to ANY child that is missing, most certainly my own flesh and blood.

 

[waltzingmatilda]

I don't agree.

From one of your links.

"I think he basically tied up a lot of loose ends, which allows them to formulate their theory as to what happened," Shoemaker said.

Seems they are hard at work on solving this case and went back to tie up any loose ends and asked Ron some more detailed questions pertaining to events and time line he had already told them about so they can tighten their case(s).

Seems to me they are fine tuning the case now which is common when they are close to solving the case.

IMO

OBE, Thanks for your posts and explanations. I repect your opinions and expertise because I always look for your input on the trial threads and I know how many trials you follow. (not stalking you, LOL! I just know that you've followed many of these cases closely and I like reading your opinion!)

I am glad you feel that LE are hard at work solving this case. Somethings gotta give. Poor Haleigh.

MOO

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[Kimster]

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[joeskidbeck]

I may be very naive, but I believe that LE knows that both RC and MC both know exactly what happened to Haleigh. Therefore RC gets a plea deal and MC gets an interrogation where they tell her exactly what RC has accused her of. One last chance for her to tell the truth or go down for the murder of little Haleigh. Misty, it's time for you to finally tell the truth!

 

[Donjeta]

I'm not knowledgeable about plea deals but I don't understand why it would have been worth dropping several serious charges to have Ronald agree to testify to something that he had said all along that he had intended to testify about all along.