2010.10.27 - Will JB Get the Money?

[cyberborg]

lol brilliant. Let's hope he gets the same response as Oliver did!

"Investigators have used (them) up. We just need more, that's all," Mason said.

 

[tygomuk]

IMO JB is haggling or dickering. I feel that against JP's personal feelings he will award 'some' more hours to JB but in a much diminished amount. Thinkin 50 +/-
But it will definitely be the last and that will be made crystal clear. And only if JB can provide a believable argument why those hours are needed. I think simms will be SOL. And other than Yuri, I think there will be no more extensions. JB's wishing well is drying up.

 

[watergirl]

Sigh...I hope he does not, he really needs to clue the court in as to what he has to show for the first 300 hours - in oh... 50 words or less. HHJP really needs a stopwatch to keep JB in check!

:hypno:

HHJP: OK Mr Baez, please tell the court what the defense has accomplished with the first 300 hours and how you can have the audacity to ask for more. You have one minute. GO!

JB: <hem and haw; shuffle color-coded spreadsheets> "Well you see judge its like this..."

HHJP: DING! Sit down Mr Baez, times up! Next???

:hypno:

Its a nice fantasy, yes? Just thought I would share. C'MON FRIDAY!

:slap:

 

[Cher352]

I voted on #1, but wish it wasn't so. Guess I am just down on the judicial system of late, it just seems like we are forever bending over backwards for the defense to keep from having anything come up in appeals.

Going to do my early voting today and trying to fight the urge to vote "no" to retaining of the all the current FL Supreme or Appeal judges on the ballot in office.

 

[Sun]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/58593417/10252010-Motion-for-Additional-Hours-of-Investigation

I've read Baez's Motion for more investigator hours, and it sure didn't convince me that more hours are needed. Am I wrong in thinking that the JAC cap for investigator hours is 100 hours (thought I read this in an attachment to Baez's motion for reconsideration)?

And, Baez has now used up 400 hours. Four times the cap. And, Baez is still asking for more. Am I confused, or am I undestanding things clearely?

 

[ZsaZsa]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/58593417/10252010-Motion-for-Additional-Hours-of-Investigation

I've read Baez's Motion for more investigator hours, and it sure didn't convince me that more hours are needed. Am I wrong in thinking that the JAC cap for investigator hours is 100 hours (thought I read this in an attachment to Baez's motion for reconsideration)?

And, Baez has now used up 400 hours. Four times the cap. And, Baez is still asking for more. Am I confused, or am I undestanding things clearely?

I think that's right. It seems that all a Defense Attorney has to do is wave a banner saying 'Appeal' and they buckle under the pressure and give him what he wants..

 

[nums24]

"Investigators have used (them) up. We just need more, that's all," Mason said.

What could the investigator possibly have to investigate? The deadline for adding witnesses is quickly approaching. If HHJP grants their request, wouldn't that be like HHJP delaying the trial? I just don't see him authorizing this poorly written request! JMO

 

[logicalgirl]

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/58593417/10252010-Motion-for-Additional-Hours-of-Investigation

I've read Baez's Motion for more investigator hours, and it sure didn't convince me that more hours are needed. Am I wrong in thinking that the JAC cap for investigator hours is 100 hours (thought I read this in an attachment to Baez's motion for reconsideration)?

And, Baez has now used up 400 hours. Four times the cap. And, Baez is still asking for more. Am I confused, or am I undestanding things clearely?

I like the part on page two where he's praying....

LOL yes, I know it is legalese, but I had this pic flash of Baez all boohooing on his knees asking for a miracle...:boohoo:

(reminds me of an old joke going around 30 years ago about a fellow who kept praying and praying and bad things kept happening, until he is homeless and penniless. He begs God to tell him what he's done wrong when he's tried so hard to be good. The clouds part and a loud voice says - I don't know Ralph, but there is something about you that just pizzes me off):waitasec:

Sorry, hope that hasn't offended anyone - will delete if so.

 

[BChand]

What could the investigator possibly have to investigate? The deadline for adding witnesses is quickly approaching. If HHJP grants their request, wouldn't that be like HHJP delaying the trial? I just don't see him authorizing this poorly written request! JMO

For once, another reporter besides Kathi Belich asked them a relevent question:

Bristow asked why the defense is doing so much investigation late in the game. “They [the state] are late in the game at disclosing evidence to us,” Mason said.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/

Of course, it's all the prosecutors fault.

 

[beach]

For once, another reporter besides Kathi Belich asked them a relevent question:

Bristow asked why the defense is doing so much investigation late in the game. “They [the state] are late in the game at disclosing evidence to us,” Mason said.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/

Of course, it's all the prosecutors fault.

Of course it is the SA's fault. :innocent:

In fact, I could hear CM's condescending tone when I read his comment, "Investigators have used them up. We just need more, that's all."
Oh, that's ALL? lol

Prepare yourselves - I guarantee you the BIG reason we are about to hear is going to be because the defense discovered those "hundreds" of TES volunteers that were discovered during the doc review/phone bank to have been SOMEWHERE on Suburban Dr. during the search.

:banghead:

 

[Dells]

Of course it is the SA's fault. :innocent:

In fact, I could hear CM's condescending tone when I read his comment, "Investigators have used them up. We just need more, that's all."
Oh, that's ALL? lol

Prepare yourselves - I guarantee you the BIG reason we are about to hear is going to be because the defense discovered those "hundreds" of TES volunteers that were discovered during the doc review/phone bank to have been SOMEWHERE on Suburban Dr. during the search.

:banghead:

Bolding by me....

I agree w/you. But remember, Judge Perry did set this scenario in motion w/the way he allowed the defense team to look at the TES records. The hearing is certainly going to be interesting tomorrow!

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I have to quote myself to insert a correction here - and I hope someone else in the thread has already corrected me - because in addition to the above, Baez and Mason are asking for an additional 300 hours because in their words, they (the hours) are all used up.

Well, I say "cry me a river"

Why not just hire a new PI and stiff them on the bill like Baez did to dim Dominic lol... Or better yet, just hire a psychic directly, since that's what 90% of his work seemed to revolve around.

 

[cyberborg]

What could the investigator possibly have to investigate? The deadline for adding witnesses is quickly approaching. If HHJP grants their request, wouldn't that be like HHJP delaying the trial? I just don't see him authorizing this poorly written request! JMO

Worse than we thought....!!

Bristow interviewed Mason and defense attorney Jose Baez as they walked outside the courthouse. Mason did all the talking. Baez, wearing sunglasses, walked along silently.

Bristow wanted to know if that will be the end. “No,” Mason said. “It’s going to take a lot more than that.”

IMO It will never be over if Mason can play the DP card and seek more time, money, resources, etc. I cannot see this trial starting on May 2011. IMO.

 

[shotgun09]

If more money is allowed and given to the defense, considering the recent motions filed by LKB and statements made by her and Cheney, can the State of Florida REALLY be strong-armed into this? This walking on egg-shells and tip-toeing through the hearings while the defense threatens APPEAL has got to stop! This is threatening behavior that reminds me of Chicago's finest thugs in the 30's. Someone needs to stand up and shout STOP!!, and soon. Florida and its Judicial system needs someone with the cajones to say enough is enough!

 

[Dignity4Victims]

Worse than we thought....!!



IMO It will never be over if Mason can play the DP card and seek more time, money, resources, etc. I cannot see this trial starting on May 2011. IMO.

Judge Perry says what he means and means what he says.

I think many will be surprised at not only the strength of content the State has to offer come trial time, but also the fact that as Judge Perry has promised, the trial will go forward in May of 2011 regardless of what Frick n' Frack are attempting to derail.

We've managed to have patience for over 2 years now. Just a little bit more, for Caylee's sake.
It will happen, and like all things of great reward, the result will have been worth the wait.

 

[nums24]

Worse than we thought....!!



IMO It will never be over if Mason can play the DP card and seek more time, money, resources, etc. I cannot see this trial starting on May 2011. IMO.

CM is so arrogant! You have to see the video, I just posted it in the news thread. He can ask all he wants, but HHJP will get the justice train moving for Caylee.

 

[logicalgirl]

CM is so arrogant! You have to see the video, I just posted it in the news thread. He can ask all he wants, but HHJP will get the justice train moving for Caylee.

Thanks Nums24 - so somebody, anybody tell me please what is all this evidence the State is presenting "late in the game" that needs far more than the additional 300 hours they are currently asking for? :waitasec:

Didn't the state say all but 10% of the evidence had been presented? Or does this mean the Defense finally actually looked over the evidence that has been streaming in for the last two years?:waitasec:

 

[cyberborg]

Thanks Nums24 - so somebody, anybody tell me please what is all this evidence the State is presenting "late in the game" that needs far more than the additional 300 hours they are currently asking for? :waitasec:

Didn't the state say all but 10% of the evidence had been presented? Or does this mean the Defense finally actually looked over the evidence that has been streaming in for the last two years?:waitasec:

I believe that the Defense are using claims from the depo of Dr. G and the Body Farm as well as revelations from their search into TES records as stuff that is new, was only recently 'disclosed' and -- thus requires lots of investigation.

The Defense don't have Zanny, SODDI or, much of anything so to do this at the 11th hour is needed both to seed reasonable doubt and gain an upper hand (in their opinion).

The games people play. It is a game of bluff.

 

[nums24]

Thanks Nums24 - so somebody, anybody tell me please what is all this evidence the State is presenting "late in the game" that needs far more than the additional 300 hours they are currently asking for? :waitasec:

Didn't the state say all but 10% of the evidence had been presented? Or does this mean the Defense finally actually looked over the evidence that has been streaming in for the last two years?:waitasec:

Yes LG, that is what the State said. They've been too busy filing useless motions!

Here is what has been turned over this year, thanks to MuzikMan & WFTV:

EVIDENCE PHOTOS RELEASED 02/16/10
Knife, Duct Tape | Car Seat
Syringe, Gatorade Bottle, Substances
Baby Doll | Steering Wheel Cover
Alternate Light Source | Misc. Pics
Still Image From WFTV Video Of Tape

TRANSCRIPTS RELEASED 03/23/10
Tim Miller | Melissa Earnest | Richard Creque | Tony Rovinski | Lisa Hoffman | Linda Tinelli | Joseph Jordan #1 | Jordan #2 | Daniel Ibison | Carol Conaway | Jennifer Conaway | Brett Reilly | Brett Churchill | Lori Cree | Joy Wray #1 | Wray #2
SHERIFF'S REPORTS: Supplemental #1 | Supplemental #2

EVIDENCE DOCUMENTS RELEASED 04/06/10
Read Casey's Jailhouse Letters
REPORTS: Sheriff's Office | FDLE
TRANSCRIPTS: Robyn Adams | Krystal Holloway | Silvia Hernandez | Linda Tinelli | Rozzie Franco

04/12/2010 Discovery: Discovery Documents Pages 13843-13923

04/14/2010 Discovery: Discovery Documents Pages 13924-14084 (note: pgs 13924-14040 are documents requested at Gotteman's deposition).

05/12/2010 Notice of Provision of Discovery
1. Curriculum Vitae of Sgt. Kevin Stenger (pages 14717-14719)
2. Curriculum Vitae ofDet. Sandra G. (Cawn) Osborne (pages 14720-14721)
3. Letter from Maya Derkovic (pages 14722-14723)

05/14/2010 Notice of Provision of Discovery
CD -Discovery Documents Pages 14717-14774
(Note: Pgs 14717-14723 was previously faxed to defense attorney on 5/12/10)

Provision of Discovery filed 06/22/2010
Pages 14775 - 18372
Pages 18373 - 20140
NOTE: Please note that pages 15760-15779 do not exist. These numbers were inadvertently skipped when numbering supplemental discovery.

2010.07.21 - State's Notice of Provision RE: Robin Lunceford Calls:
http://www.wftv.com/pdf/24354918/detail.html

07/22/2010 Provision of Discovery
1. CD - Discovery Documents Pages 20141-22672
(Pgs 20152-20385 are Letters to Casey Anthony)
(Pgs 20425-22672 are Dominick Casey Emails)
2. CD - Brandon Sparks Cell Records 2008
3. CD - Orange County Jail Calls RE: Robyn Adams, 12/11/08 - 12/20/08
4. CD - Federal Jail Calls RE: Robyn Adams, 01/27/10 - 41/12/10
5. CD - Statement of Clyde Cole
6. CD - Mandy Albriton Int. Pt. 2 07/02/10
7. CD - Audio of Erica Gonzalez; Kronk work & phone records; transcripts (Lee,
Gonzalez, McDonnell, Neally)

07/29/2010 Provision of Discovery
DVD - Cynthia Anthony --- 7-31-08 Eric Edwards, Yuri Melich
(previously disclosed of availability on the Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
dated October 24, 2008)

08/10/2010 Notice of Provision of Supplemental Discovery
Property Form (Page 22692)

08/27/2010 Provision of Discovery
l. CD-R - Supplemental CD from Cpl Melich dated 7/27110.
2. CD-R - OCCD IA Report Sylvia Hernandez.

08/30/2010 Provision of Discovery
I. DVD-R-EvidenceReview 7113/10-7/14/10 Chem Room Camera 1, lof4.
2. DVD-R - Evidence Review 7/13/10-7114/10 Chem Room Camera 1,2 of 4.
3. DVD-R -Evidence Review 71J3/JO-7114/10 Chem Room Camera 1, 3 of4.
4. DVD-R -Evidence Review 7/13110-7114110 Chem Room Camera-I, 4 of4.
5. DVD-R-EvidenceReview 7113/10-7/14/10 West Gal'age Camera 2, lofl .
6. DVD-R - Evidence Review 7/13110-7114/10 East Garage Camera J, 10f4.
7. DVD-R-Evidence Review 7/13/10-7/14110 East Garage Camera 3,2 of4.
8. DVD-R - Evidence Review 7/13/10-7114110 East Garage Camera 3,3 Of 4.
9. DVb-R - Evidence Review 7/13/ J 0-711411 0 East Garage Camera 2 & 3, 4 of 4.

09/10/2010 Provision of discovery
1. CD-R - Discovery Documents Pages 22692-23416
2. CD-R - Messages from OPD Luke Phillips
3. CD-R - Copy of Phone Calls Received 10/15108
NOTE: The three (3) CDs provided to Jose Baez on September 3, 2010.

09/23/2010 - Provision of Discovery
CD-R - Discovery Documents Pages 23417 - 23465 (FBI Documents)

09/29/2010 Provision of Discovery
Discovery Document - Email to Jeff Ashton from Blue Star Forensic. Pg 23466

10/27/2010 - Provision of Discovery
CD-R - Video Superimposition from C.A. Pound Human Identification Lab @ University of FL

 

[CuriousTwo]

I think it's very unfortunate for the taxpayers (who are footing the bill) that KC's lawyers feel their piggy bank is bottomless. Why should she receive a larger defense fund than anyone else currently awaiting trial? Beyond belief!