2010.12.21 Stream of Motions - General Discussion

[strawberry]

I couldn't find a thread for the lying/stealing motion?? Anyway, Mr. George is an excellent writer!

http://www.docstoc.com/docs/69484725/20110118-SA-Response-to-Defenses-Motions-in-Limine

Page 7: "Nevertheless, Cindy Anthony pursued the truth about the welfare of her "little angel" with the dogged determination of a police detective." Wow, just wow. That made me almost cry, the way he quoted CA's blog. Maybe it's the fact that I get the reference. I can't believe this case is finally coming to a conclusion...I haven't been able to let it go since July 2008...and I'm glad Caylee has the tenacious Mr. Ashton, the polite and patient yet searingly truthful LDB, and the still-waters-run-deep Mr. George.

 

[ThinkTank]

The writing was excellent in those State Responses! very intense!
Thank you for getting them MuzikMan!!


2011.01.18 SA Response to Defense's Motions in Limine
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/69484725/20110118-SA-Response-to-Defenses-Motions-in-Limine

pg 9 - the more reasonable explanation is that the Defendant borrowed the shovel with the intent to bury her daughter.

pg 11 - ... getting a tatoo during this time period with the inscription "La Bella vita" (meaning "The Beautiful Life" or "The Good Life") as an expression of her preference for her life without Caylee.

 

[strawberry]

Haha Page 9:

"The notion that Defendant borrowed a shovel to do some light yardwork is preposterous"

 

[strawberry]

The writing was excellent in those State Responses! very intense!
Thank you for getting them MuzikMan!!


2011.01.18 SA Response to Defense's Motions in Limine
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/69484725/20110118-SA-Response-to-Defenses-Motions-in-Limine

pg 9 - the more reasonable explanation is that the Defendant borrowed the shovel with the intent to bury her daughter.

pg 11 - ... getting a tatoo during this time period with the inscription "La Bella vita" (meaning "The Beautiful Life" or "The Good Life") as an expression of her preference for her life without Caylee.

The difference between this writing and the defense's is like Harper Lee compared to a third grader. IMO

 

[whiteangora]

The writing was excellent in those State Responses! very intense!
Thank you for getting them MuzikMan!!


2011.01.18 SA Response to Defense's Motions in Limine
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/69484725/20110118-SA-Response-to-Defenses-Motions-in-Limine

pg 9 - the more reasonable explanation is that the Defendant borrowed the shovel with the intent to bury her daughter.

pg 11 - ... getting a tatoo during this time period with the inscription "La Bella vita" (meaning "The Beautiful Life" or "The Good Life") as an expression of her preference for her life without Caylee.

What a fantastic read! Bravo to Mr. George. After seeing the States response and their reasoning for wanting to use all of this evidence I'm anxious as to what our WS Attorneys think. Will Judge Perry deny all of JB's motions for exclusion?

 

[strawberry]

Page 14 notes that La Bella Vita can also translate as "the good life" and that's right...I typed in La Bella Vita to Google translate and that's what it comes out as. Also if you type in "the good life" it translates to La Bella Vita.

 

[ynotdivein]

These are just plain old well-crafted, logical, respectful and respectable arguments. Where there are arguments on the "other side" (i.e., previous rulings on tattoos), they are listed, and then the State goes on calmly to explain why their arguments are the more valid.

I wonder how many anti-snark edits it went through--the only blatant one they left in was about playing "house" with TonE. Oh, and maybe a little poke about the Hayden Christiansen Connection.

A pleasure to read!

(And I am no lawyer, but those sounded like some pretty persuasive arguments to me!)

 

[cyberborg]

The writing was excellent in those State Responses! very intense!
Thank you for getting them MuzikMan!!


2011.01.18 SA Response to Defense's Motions in Limine
http://www.docstoc.com/docs/69484725/20110118-SA-Response-to-Defenses-Motions-in-Limine

pg 9 - the more reasonable explanation is that the Defendant borrowed the shovel with the intent to bury her daughter.

pg 11 - ... getting a tatoo during this time period with the inscription "La Bella vita" (meaning "The Beautiful Life" or "The Good Life") as an expression of her preference for her life without Caylee.

You cannot argue with articulately expressed common sense. This is not complicated. It is what it is. Plain and simple.

ICA was not a clever murderer by any means, far from it. She acted with cold jealous spite, never looked back and, partied hard while she could ... knowing time was running out.

Her actions and lies speak for themselves as ICA tried to cover and buy more time. ICA focused on her lies to buy time but didn't work much at an alibi story, never even really considered it.

"Just one more day....." -- says it all.

 

[Teresa]

I'm newish, excuse my ignorance. How can I add my thanks too? Where should I look for help on this sort of thing?

Teresa

 

[truckengirl]

Awesome response from SA office!

 

[whiteangora]

I'm newish, excuse my ignorance. How can I add my thanks too? Where should I look for help on this sort of thing?

Teresa

There is a section here on [ame="http://www.websleuths.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=160"]Forum Information & Esoterica[/ame]
:wagon:

 

[whiteangora]

Isn't it just amazing that Mr. George could convey so much information with so few words? I'll bet JB would have penned 50 pages to make that many good points and it still would not have made sense!

 

[faefrost]

Wow! You can really tell from that motion that the state is ready to go to trial today. It was interesting to note that in this filing they were not simply laying out or arguing the law as they typically do. They stopped playing their cards close to their chest and started laying out their case. So much of this motion was pointed directly at the defendant and her actions, and the states interpretations of her actions. Much more so then we have previously seen. These are the arguments and accusations the state will be making at trial. They really don't care that they are giving JB and CM a preview peek at them. They are that solid on their case.

I hope that after reading this someone is planning on having a deep hard soulful talk with the defendant about what her chances truly are in taking this to trial. Failing to do that would be the only true case of "ineffective council" that we have so far witnessed.

 

[AZlawyer]

What a fantastic read! Bravo to Mr. George. After seeing the States response and their reasoning for wanting to use all of this evidence I'm anxious as to what our WS Attorneys think. Will Judge Perry deny all of JB's motions for exclusion?

What a refreshingly well-written response after reading all that carp from the defense.

I anticipate that HHJP will agree with the State's response on every point.

 

[truckengirl]

Wow! You can really tell from that motion that the state is ready to go to trial today. It was interesting to note that in this filing they were not simply laying out or arguing the law as they typically do. They stopped playing their cards close to their chest and started laying out their case. So much of this motion was pointed directly at the defendant and her actions, and the states interpretations of her actions. Much more so then we have previously seen. These are the arguments and accusations the state will be making at trial. They really don't care that they are giving JB and CM a preview peek at them. They are that solid on their case.

I hope that after reading this someone is planning on having a deep hard soulful talk with the defendant about what her chances truly are in taking this to trial. Failing to do that would be the only true case of "ineffective council" that we have so far witnessed.

ITA, after reading this motion I am ready for trial to start because this proves for me the SA office is ready and Caylee will finally get justice.

 

[cyberborg]

ITA, after reading this motion I am ready for trial to start because this proves for me the SA office is ready and Caylee will finally get justice.

Yes ... while the Defense's job is to create reasonable doubt of the Prosecution's case during trial ... it seems that they will do a LOT better job of creating reasonable doubt in their own knowledge, understanding, familiarity, analysis, ability with the Discovery.

I visualize the trial round by round and see the Prosecution dodging and weaving throwing out this fact and that fact and supporting it with written testimony references ... as LDB did. The Defense will lumber and stagger and thrust in an ill-prepared manner and the Prosecution with simply run rings around them and shoot down every angle.

The Defense could get away with a lot if they were articulate, well-spoken, commanded attention, etc. They still lack a lead who can hold the court room floor, sway the Jury and, be as knowledgable and as prepared as the Prosecution are.

Any takers?

The Defense needs help if they are going to stand a fair chance at trial ... they are out-gunned by professionalism, preparation, quality analysis / synthesis of key facts, etc.

If the Defense don't quickly connect and capture the Jury then game over. The SA are simply going to trot out fact after fact supported by references and the Jury is going to take it all in.

The Defense spaghetti will be just seen as merely a distraction IF it is not presented with credibility by a charismatic defense attorney.

It is mainly about presentation, not so much about details. As a consultant I have won many deals based on research, preparation, passion, Q&A responses ... you need to impress. You need to sell your story.

 

[Ssejors]

Wow! You can really tell from that motion that the state is ready to go to trial today. It was interesting to note that in this filing they were not simply laying out or arguing the law as they typically do. They stopped playing their cards close to their chest and started laying out their case. So much of this motion was pointed directly at the defendant and her actions, and the states interpretations of her actions. Much more so then we have previously seen. These are the arguments and accusations the state will be making at trial. They really don't care that they are giving JB and CM a preview peek at them. They are that solid on their case.

I hope that after reading this someone is planning on having a deep hard soulful talk with the defendant about what her chances truly are in taking this to trial. Failing to do that would be the only true case of "ineffective council" that we have so far witnessed.

Fae I think you are one of my favorite posters here! Always love to see what you have to say.


This response has been the most refreshing thing I have seen so far with this case, to date! I am sosososososo happy.


Is the State excited and ready to go to trial?
Is ICA GUILTY?
Do bears squat in the woods?

The answer, of course, is an unequivocal "yes." !

 

[Aedrys]

Haha Page 9:

"The notion that Defendant borrowed a shovel to do some light yardwork is preposterous"

ROFL!!!!! Oh my God I didn't think I could love the SA more, and then Mr. George goes and writes THIS. Bwahahahahahahaha! I think I see smoke coming from Casey's cell, she will be so PIZZED at the SA's office for that! I LOVE IT!!!! :floorlaugh

What do you want to bet this response made the martini hour highlights at the SA's office? Priceless!!!!

 

[Aedrys]

Wow, I just read the whole thing and got goosebumps. Laughter aside, this is not only well written, but Casey needs to be shown this response. Every argument was not only legally sound but logically sound. I bow down to the SA's office. I think I want to print this response out and frame it. You are going down, Casey, and you are going down HARD. This response is just a TASTE of what you'll get if you let this go to trial...

Oh, and kudos to the SA using the word "thwarted" not once, but TWICE in this response! Yes Baez, they stole your argument and your favorite word! LOL.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I'm newish, excuse my ignorance. How can I add my thanks too? Where should I look for help on this sort of thing?

Teresa

:Welcome1:

So happy that you've joined us!!

Wow is all I can say about the State's response to the defenses motions. Early last year, when it was announced that this would not go to trial until May 2011... I was a little upset thinking that Caylee had to wait another year for justice. But after reading this response, I believe that it was the right decision. The State is confident, well beyond prepared, and their compassion for the victim, Miss Caylee, shines through with every word they wrote. They are so ready for trial!