2010.5.24 JVM/Fields quote: Is this case a garage sale?

[froginTtown]

According to Hank, Fields is working for free and Misty doesn't want this to get out...She keeps shushing him in the SKY videos,, Vol. 2 Vid. 2 at about the 17 minute mark..

 

[Quiche]

Of course, in a Garage Sale your really good stuff isn't for sale.

Is Fields representing her on the Haleigh stuff, or is he just bargaining for a reduced sentence on the drug charges with all these statements?

 

[mac66]

"And if this is true, this is the story she's been telling". What the heck does that statement mean! Makes no sense. I have no belief in Art Harris' reporting. He is always a day late and a dollar short, plus, he seems to take a small truth and embellish it for his reader's excitement. He comes across as a really nice guy so it took me many months to come to my cynical conclusion. Just sayn'.

 

[mysticrose]

IMO only I do not think Fields is a very good attorney, she might be better off with a PD..... I know he has a carrpy client but I do not feel he is very good, Baez might be better maybe :innocent:

 

[rileysmom]

I have a hard time believing anything Art Harris says. His stories seem to change depending what program he is on. Imo. Moo

 

[Emma Peel]

I thought he lawyer was not going to work for her on the, Haleigh case?

:biggrin: This quote from AH does make one wonder. Perhaps it's Field's version of ... a compromise...as it's hard to help build a case when your client is a dervish that's still whirling.

FWIW: Where I come from, the term "garage sale" also is used to describe a situation where you trip/fall, (typically while holding things) and you loose everything you were holding all over the place. :waitasec:

And I'm from NY. BUT, I don't think EVERYONE from NY knows that expression...and her attny's from ... I don't know exactly! *runs to see if she can find it*

ETA: http://www.dowdaandfields.com/
Can't seem to find a bio...

 

[snowshuze]

Good Morning WSer's!

Quote by Att. Robert Fields;
"It`s like a garage sale. We`ve put it all out there, and we`re just waiting for someone to buy it."

My interpretation (my opinion only);
"It's like a garage sale. We know the "product" (story) we're trying to sell is "faulty" (a lie) but who knows, someone just might buy it..."


(Respectfully Snipped)
Quote by Donjeta;
"...he wouldn't be implying that his client is a hopeless liar, would he?"
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That may not have been his intention but that's certainly how his statement came across to me Donjeta!

JMHO ~

Haul it to the dump, cuz it's junk, and nobodys buyin it.

 

[Skully]

If this is a garage sale, the prices are way too high! I pass....

 

[Jetaime]

IF Fields did make that statement <im not so sure> - it's possible Mistys story may have implicated Ron.? And Fields probably suspects LE doesn't want to hear anything about a possible Ronald involvement..

 

[BetteDavisEyes]

IMO only I do not think Fields is a very good attorney, she might be better off with a PD..... I know he has a carrpy client but I do not feel he is very good, Baez might be better maybe :innocent:

:waitasec: I thought that Fields is now representing Misty as a public defender. She fired him, then the Court appointed him as Misty's PD.

Baez has his hands full with Casey for now and will probably be ready for the funny farm by the time the trial ends jmo

 

[ladonna]

IF Fields did make that statement <im not so sure> - it's possible Mistys story may have implicated Ron.? And Fields probably suspects LE doesn't want to hear anything about a possible Ronald involvement..

How so? Are you implying that LE has an attitude that hands off on Ron? Interesting comment.

 

[Emma Peel]

IF this is Field's statement, then, we have heard from all 3 attorneys (each incarcerated player) on a "statement to media" regarding their respective clients' testimonies prior to plea basis.

Hoping this means time is drawing near for the next LE step in this case...

Without hearing Fields speak his own words, it's hard to know for certain - but IF this is Field's statement for national press - the words he chose are not those of someone enthusiastic for his client's prospects - as opposed to Werter's or Shoemaker's statements.

Maybe we'll hear from Fields himself directly at some point today...

:cow:

 

[dodie20]

the last I heard from LE on Misty, was that she finally understood the gravity of her situation, & was cooperating,,,so, this comment doesn't make sense to me. I would think LE would know the difference between lies & the truth by now, so I'll just wait on a statement from them, & not Art Harris. Surely they're past the point of being tricked by Misty?

 

[krkrjx]

Fields has been in the picture since before Misty was arrested on the drug charges. I believe Fields came on board to protect Misty from the media and to defend her in the event of possible charges for Haleigh. However, Fields had little control over Misty from the beginning and IIRC has almost walked on her before.

I think Fields might be a very good attorney. I think he could be ethical, and I think he would do anything in his power on behalf of his client. However, he is not being given much to work with from Misty.

In one of the recent tapes, Hank tells Misty that Fields is making noise along the lines of he cannot continue to devote ALL his time to Misty Croslin. I think Fields wants to help Misty but finds himself in a difficult if not impossible situation that is getting worse, not better. For the longest time, Misty would not listen to Fields and even after she appeared to understand that he had her best interests at heart, she dropped bombs that he was not likely to be OK with. Misty had maintained, "I don't know nothin', I was asleep." But then contradicts that in her detailed letter to Chelsea. And then explains it as having come to her in a dream. Her most recent claim is that it was "suggested" to her by others.

Misty may have made a statement to her attorney that he has on tape, and it may be the story Fields intends to go with. It has been said that Fields has stated Misty is sticking to the story. We do not know at this point which of her stories that is but by what AH said, it is the story about Misty and Junior hiding under the covers while Haleigh screamed in the other room.

Of all the stories I have heard, that is the account I give the least credence.

IMO, if that really happened, Junior would have told someone he heard his Sissy screaming; he and Haleigh were close and her screaming is something he would have remembered, IMO, even at his age. And, if Misty hid under the covers paralyzed with fear, how could she have made the bed after JO left with Haleigh? How could she not have been in a state of shock to the point of not being able to even speak to the 911 operator?

One would need hip waders to shop that garage sale.

 

[Emma Peel]

gads.

It annoys me that she was "represented" by TN more than RF from the get go. It annoys me that RF even let those summer "LDT/LVAs" happen. It stinks that RF didn't slam TN and TM publicly for what they pulled with his underage client. Oh, wait, she was emancipated, wasn't she? How convenient.

The girl did not self-destruct. She had help. And she had no help. And her mother emancipated her and threw her to the wolves. And good grief.

It's hard to defend Misty, but for pete's sake, it would be nice to think someone actually tried. Because what if Misty actually didn't do it?

She might be better served by a change in counsel, with limited capacity of a child to understand proceedings arguments.

If that's even possible. Where's Gloria? lol. I'm Grumperella today, I guess.

 

[Emma Peel]

Continuing previous thought:

I wonder if new counsel could argue that she wasn't emancipated because the parent who emancipated her was high as a kite when she signed the paperwork. :crazy:

Argue Misty's limited capacity (as a child) to understand legal proceedings, rewind all the lies, and let the girl start over with proper counsel ...

(slamming the adult advisors in her life at the time - parents, TN, GGMS - not RF)

 

[debs]

Continuing previous thought:

I wonder if new counsel could argue that she wasn't emancipated because the parent who emancipated her was high as a kite when she signed the paperwork. :crazy:

Argue Misty's limited capacity (as a child) to understand legal proceedings, rewind all the lies, and let the girl start over with proper counsel ...

(slamming the adult advisors in her life at the time - parents, TN, GGMS - not RF)

I think Misty has argued herself out of a Limited Capacity defense. Getting engaged, getting divorced, Misty asserts herself as someone achieving what it is she wants in life, even if that divorce (as she says) was what Ron wanted, but 'oh well'.....I can't see them looking at her and retroactively applying the "yeah, you're only 17, how much can you take, little girl?" defense for her. She got what she wanted. She just didn't know what it was she was actually getting along with it all.

 

[Emeralgem]

IF Fields did make that statement <im not so sure> - it's possible Mistys story may have implicated Ron.? And Fields probably suspects LE doesn't want to hear anything about a possible Ronald involvement..

BBM.. Imagine that...JMO

 

[Emma Peel]

I think Misty has argued herself out of a Limited Capacity defense. Getting engaged, getting divorced, Misty asserts herself as someone achieving what it is she wants in life, even if that divorce (as she says) was what Ron wanted, but 'oh well'.....I can't see them looking at her and retroactively applying the "yeah, you're only 17, how much can you take, little girl?" defense for her. She got what she wanted. She just didn't know what it was she was actually getting along with it all.

She didn't understand a lot of things. Grabbed the tail of the wrong tiger.

I don't want her to get away with anything. I just don't want her invented testimony to let others get away with something.

Dear Higher Power: Please deliver lovely package of evidence, tied up with a purple bow, to satisfy all my questions and get this child all the justice she deserves. Thank you.

 

[krkrjx]

Continuing previous thought:

I wonder if new counsel could argue that she wasn't emancipated because the parent who emancipated her was high as a kite when she signed the paperwork. :crazy:

Argue Misty's limited capacity (as a child) to understand legal proceedings, rewind all the lies, and let the girl start over with proper counsel ...

(slamming the adult advisors in her life at the time - parents, TN, GGMS - not RF)

I would be all for giving Misty some kind of chance in life if in fact she did not harm Haleigh herself. (Sorry, but I need to give priority to the little one over Misty if indeed Haleigh suffered at Misty's hand.)

If Misty got drug court or probation on the drug charges, went through rehab and got her life on track, could she stay that way? I seriously doubt it. If she were back with her parents, no way would she succeed. If she went with other relatives, likely the same thing. Friends? All seem to be into drugs.

She's too old for a foster home per se, but I wonder if Florida has adult foster care. Usually that is for physically or mentally disabled persons but if Misty really is a person of diminished capacity she might qualify for placement.

I cannot see Misty succeeding out on her own. She would have to have some type of supervision and likely for quite some time. I do believe it would be possible, but all would depend on her ability to conform and the state's ability to provide the necessary resources. She could get a job but that would likely pay for room and board only; it would not touch mental health and other services she would require.

I see Misty failing on the outside, eventually. I see her getting back into drugs and ending up in prison or dead. That's just my opinion, given her defiance and her "I'm not gonna do..." attitude.

That said, it would be nice if she could be given the chance to try. If she fails, she fails, and so be it.

As for Fields, I agree he probably should step down. I do not see much defense for Misty that could not be provided by another attorney. In Fields' defense, though, I think he tried. Misty did what she wanted to do, much of it against his advice. She even wanted to fire him to work with LP. And look how hard it is to keep Misty from talking/spewing/writing, etc., even from jail? Fields would have needed to hire guards to keep her in tow when she was free. I believe he tried, but there is only so much a person can do with someone who runs unbridled through life.