2011.02.04 - Status Hearing

[Meeko]

Does anyone have a link so I can watch today's hearing? I was working and missed out. Thanks in advance.

 

[sumbunny]

I think he read the discovery. I am PRAYING that the FBI can pin down that ink! That diary could become a solid NAIL in Casey's coffin!

Exactly the reason Baez is all puffed up and angry about it

Baez is clearly overwhelmed with this case, it shows. I believe CM is a foot out the door and ready to throw in the towel.

It's my understanding that because he was never paid by Casey, that he is free to leave this FUN three ring circus anytime he wants? Or am I mistaken?

 

[Amil]

Originally Posted by logicalgirl
Now that you mention Cindy - when the camera panned over to Baez's side of the courtroom immediately as the hearing ended - Cindy and her friend had skedadled - did anyone see her leave and when?



I noticed that Cindy did not do her usual waiting around at the end to give Baez a hug or whisper in his ear this time. I did not see when she left though.
Her church friend, Donna, was right there by her side today, yuckin it up and talking with Cindy and Jim the media guy.
I noticed that Cindy had some type of ring on her left middle finger ... but no wedding rings on her left hand.
It annoyed me to see Cindy so jovial and in such laughing-talking good spirits today. This was a tea party for her and she was lovin every minute of it.

I noticed that CA had a thin gold ring on Mr.Tall Man, but no wedding rings. See this photo for a prior left hand shot. http://itsamysterytome.wordpress.co...deposed-by-the-states-attorneys-office-today/

 

[Amil]

Sometimes she wears no rings at all on the left hand.

http://cayleeanthony.wordpress.com/2008/10/06/aug-4th-police-interview-with-cindy-anthony/

http://***************************/2010/08/does-cindy-anthony-really-believe.html

 

[Purple Iris]

After the hearing, KB followed the defense out into the hallway. From inside the courtroom you could hear CM yelling John Allen! Get these people away from me. So the rest of the audience goes into the hallway to see what the commotion is all about. KB is asking questions of the defense regarding false statements to the court and CM is bumping her post-bunionectomy-shoe walker with his brief case. He calls her an a$$hole and gets on the elevator. She follows him and a deputy comes between them and indicates that she must get off the elevator.
Sgt Allen and another deputy are sitting in the front row behind the prosecution during the hearing. They wouldn't tell KB what they were there for. After the hearing JB and CM come up to them and talk. I think I heard that they promised to get some papers to them. I heard the word polygraph, but I don't know the context nor do I know who said that. The defense left the building without an escort of any kind. Sgt Allen and his co-worker left with the prosecution.

Whoaaaaaaa................oh my, oh my, oh my.......THANK YOU just isn't enough for that little tidbit.

Shoot out at the O-K Coral ~ Orange Kounty Courthouse??
Yikes and uff-da.
Double uff-da actually.
Not even sure what icon to use right now !!!!

 

[cyberborg]

JB whined that in the SAO Defense expert depositions that the SAO are trying to put a 'holistic' picture together, to try to tie the different expert testimonies together into understanding the rebuttal / stance the Defense are going to present.

Makes sense right? Sounds like it did not occur to JB before. Doh!

So ... JB wants to use this "unique opportunity" at the conference to get some of his experts in one place and put their heads together and ... things may/likely will change? Hmmmm?

HHJP schools him on picking up the phone and using numbered photos as exhibits to walk through interactively. No need to wait.

I guess JB needs to know about 'telecon' calls, things like Gotomeeting and Webex, wow ... even videoconferencing to bring people together no matter where they are. Isn't that today's reality? You can be in the airport and join a meeting.

I guess JB needs AL back to assist him with Skype?

What bothers me is ... does this imply that JB has NEVER brought these experts together or the collective knowledge to get on the same page and have a complementary story or various rebuttals? Is he just thinking about that now?

-OR-

Is JB realizing they need to come up with something new, something creative, invent something and have his experts buy into that and try to support it with some informed opinion?

Scary!

 

[darnudes]

Doesn't HHJP read all the discovery? I'll bet he does! And the chocolate comment was Baez talking about ICA could have been talking about in her diary, (not necessarily about murdering Caylee) and if that was the right decision or not.

Regrets + chocolate statement from Baez is what you call REDUCTIO AD ABSURDUM.

 

[beach]

Does anyone have a link so I can watch today's hearing? I was working and missed out. Thanks in advance.

Hi Meeko and Welcome! :greetings:

I just checked WFTV's site and it still hasn't been posted online. Check the News Thread (sticky thread) periodically and it will be linked there when a media outlet finally posts it.

 

[logicalgirl]

BBM


It has never been my experience that judges read all the discovery...

They rule on the pre-trial motions so they review what is necessary to make a ruling, but they don't have the time to review the massive amounts of discovery on all the cases on their dockets.

That said, from what I have read on this thread, it does appear he has reviewed some of it at least.

HHJP did say he researches all the case law presented in motions and more. He even finds case law his clerks don't find for him. He says he usually knows which case law they are going to refer to before the motions are submitted. So I suspect he is reading the major evidence in this case also.

 

[Nore]

Those two were classic HHJP putdowns - plus the location choice lecture - you will love those.
Oh yes, the questioning re Dr. Reich's testimony was funny but the blathering by Baez went on and on as he tried to weasel out of it.

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I wonder if SA is aware of literature news. (I think Baez is reading here,wont get it).That is big time IMO,think I know what A.will say to an objection by B.. All h*11 will break loose.Its funny B. speaks of this right after WS did.

 

[logicalgirl]

JB whined that in the SAO Defense expert depositions that the SAO are trying to put a 'holistic' picture together, to try to tie the different expert testimonies together into understanding the rebuttal / stance the Defense are going to present.

Makes sense right? Sounds like it did not occur to JB before. Doh!

So ... JB wants to use this "unique opportunity" at the conference to get some of his experts in one place and put their heads together and ... things may/likely will change? Hmmmm?

HHJP schools him on picking up the phone and using numbered photos as exhibits to walk through interactively. No need to wait.

I guess JB needs to know about 'telecon' calls, things like Gotomeeting and Webex, wow ... even videoconferencing to bring people together no matter where they are. Isn't that today's reality? You can be in the airport and join a meeting.

I guess JB needs AL back to assist him with Skype?

What bothers me is ... does this imply that JB has NEVER brought these experts together or the collective knowledge to get on the same page and have a complementary story or various rebuttals? Is he just thinking about that now?

-OR-

Is JB realizing they need to come up with something new, something creative, invent something and have his experts buy into that and try to support it with some informed opinion?

Scary!

Well - um - er - Baez did say they may change their opinions once they talked among themselves regarding the evidence and come up with something new.....

 

[ziggy]

Yes LDB picked up the tweets that JB had thrown back at her which landed on her table and placed them quietly within arms reach of CM on the defense table.

Oh snap! I like that woman.

 

[Amil]

Hey Amil! Can you tell us who those girls were sitting next Cindy? And what were your impressions of Cindy during the hearing?

The lady on CA's right side was her faithful companion - I don't know her name. I know the lady on the left seemed to be an atty because the guards in the courtroom and people in the elevator knew her.
CA appeared to be somber and nervous. She didn't have much facial expression and played with her hands quite a bit.

 

[ThinkTank]

This is the first time I have missed watching a hearing live. I must say, I think I prefer just reading the thread and the updates from all of you wonderful people! My blood pressure didn’t go up...I actually laughed out loud a few times. It was enjoyable instead of excrutiating! THANKS TO YOU ALL.

Oh, and regarding the judge asking for the lab number....I know from personal experience in my court that when an attorney reputation gets him to the point that a judge has to call to verify what he has said (i.e., Judge, I'm sorry I missed that hearing this morning I was in another court)....it is very, very bad.

I got the impression that the Judge said he would call the Lab himself, because Baez had Michelle M call and they got an answer that the Lab said they would need a minimum of 10 weeks and could not give a specific date when it would be done, and the Judge wanted a specific date NOW. Ashton said it has already been 8 weeks (since the evidence was submitted to the Lab on Dec 3, 2010), so it should be done in two more weeks.

 

[Aedrys]

The lady on CA's right side was her faithful companion - I don't know her name. I know the lady on the left seemed to be an atty because the guards in the courtroom and people in the elevator knew her.
CA appeared to be somber and nervous. She didn't have much facial expression and played with her hands quite a bit.

Thanks Amil! It is so awesome that you get to go to these hearings!

I think Donna is the church lady's name. Someone said that attorney person, the woman with the glasses, was stroking her hair like Casey. She better watch out or Cindy will make her a replacement for Casey!

 

[nums24]

To summarize today's hearing:


Conference in chambers prior to hearing.

JB - Lot's of Whining, he confirmed he was meeting his experts in Chicago for AAFS (forensics meeting)

CM - Sat quietly, whispered with JB

LDB & JA - Brilliant as usual

CA - Cringed when prosecution spoke, not wearing wedding ring, left to meet M Medina before hearing started.

Dr. Spitz - 3/11/2011 4:00pm deadline to provide reports

Drs. Logan & Reichs - 2/15/2011 4:00pm deadline to provide reports

Dr. Rodriguez - 2/21/2011 4:00pm deadline to provide reports

State to provide Dr. Haskell's additional report by 2/11/2011 4:00pm

Frye Hearings Scheduled for 3/23, 3/24 & 3/25/2011

DNA Report written status by Noon 2/10/2011 and HHJP wanted name & phone number to verify?

May 2 - Change of Venue will be announced to attorneys

May 4 - Deadline to object to Venue Location

We learned that the FBI has diary for additional testing, TES depos/ investigation almost complete.

 

[ThinkTank]

The lady on CA's right side was her faithful companion - I don't know her name. I know the lady on the left seemed to be an atty because the guards in the courtroom and people in the elevator knew her.
CA appeared to be somber and nervous. She didn't have much facial expression and played with her hands quite a bit.

Her church friend's name is Donna. Her and her husband Glenn and their daughter are listed on the program for Caylee's (Cindy's) Memorial. Donna played the piano, and Glenn and the daughter sang.
The Anthonys have a male and female attorney now - Lippman.
Before the Hearing started, Cindy and Donna and the female attorney sure were chatty and laughing a lot.
THANK YOU Amil for all of your first hand observations!

 

[A_News_Junkie]

He said the state had that evidence for 2 1/2 years and waited to test it. That is not true and wasn't corrected by the state. We know BC had it for some time. Evidently something caused the state to go back and get the diary.

Is this not a misrepresentation (aka: LIE) to the judge again? I hope someone fills out bar complaints on each of his knowing lies. He knows when BC turned that over. He knows the manufacturer said it was 2004 (not the '03 somebody tried to obstruct justice by writing) and he knows darn well why there would be ongoing testing and investigation on the diary of delightful chocolates days diary.
:banghead::loser::banghead::loser::banghead:

JB - do you have something in that pocket square causing the telemondo reception problems? What was with the voice (party line sound), flickering, etc today?
Orlando Sentinel - WFTV - somebody be our hero and take over the feed and petition the court to REQUIRE defense to either leave their mic on when addressing the court from their table or show respect and ALWAYS approach the podium. They come in turn it off then talk and we can't hear them! PLEASE - there is chocolates in it for ya!

 

[beach]

HHJP did say he researches all the case law presented in motions and more. He even finds case law his clerks don't find for him. He says he usually knows which case law they are going to refer to before the motions are submitted. So I suspect he is reading the major evidence in this case also.

I agree as far as the discovery related to the evidentiary motions and motions for Frye hearings.


I'm just saying he isn't reading stuff like KC's mail and other tidbits, kwim?

 

[Nore]

Although even a good school doesn't necessarily mean much to me. I ask my doctors WHERE in their class they graduated. I'm worried I'll get the guy that went to Harvard and graduated last in his class because he was out partying and driving the porcelain bus too much...

This guy is one of the laziest liars I've ever seen in any profession, period. He doesn't even have enough sense to be embarrassed by his lack of preparation and/or skills, or the fact that it's transparently obvious to everyone else he is such a slacker.

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