2011.02.10 Defense Accuses Detectives of Destroying Evidence

  • #61
When this motion was discussed on TV did anyone refute the Defense claims?
I don't know why JB would think this would taint a Jury in his favor... he might as well attach a big red flag to all the items that will prove his client guilty.
 
  • #62
Plus they have the car. The car still "stinks". It will have to be destroyed because you can never, ever get that smell out of the car. The chance that JB is taking here is for SA to say that while the "trash" in the bag does not smell (which I would think it still might if it smelled like decomp) then we can just take the jury on a road trip to see the car because it smells exactly like the garbage bag did almost 3 years ago. jmo

My thoughts exactly. So the trash no longer smells, but the car DOES. I don't think the car is stored in an airtight garage or sealed in airtight plastic. What does logic tell us? Motion denied!:loser:
 
  • #63
They think it doesn't smell because they stored it wrong...(aren't cardboard boxes SOP?)...ummmm it doesn't smell because that wasn't the smell. The car still smell though, doesn't it!
 
  • #64
My thoughts exactly. So the trash no longer smells, but the car DOES. I don't think the car is stored in an airtight garage or sealed in airtight plastic. What does logic tell us? Motion denied!:loser:

They think it doesn't smell because they stored it wrong...(aren't cardboard boxes SOP?)...ummmm it doesn't smell because that wasn't the smell. The car still smell though, doesn't it!

Dr. Lee said it on NG, the car still sticks of decomp (this was back in November, 2008 but I'll bet it still has that stench)....which is probably WHY he didn't come back and finish examining that car. Also the State should take those jurors on a field trip, so they can smell that car for themselves...JMHO

Justice for Caylee


NANCY GRACE

Casey Anthony Car Stills Smells of Decomposition

Aired November 14, 2008 - 20:00:00 ET

THIS IS A RUSH TRANSCRIPT. THIS COPY MAY NOT BE IN ITS FINAL FORM AND MAY BE UPDATED.


NANCY GRACE, HOST: Breaking news tonight. Police desperately searching for a beautiful 3-year-old Florida girl, Caylee, after her grandparents report her missing, little Caylee now not seen 21 long weeks, last seen with her mother. So why didn`t Mommy call police?
Bombshell. As we go to air, police confirm, after four long months, the horrible smell of human decomposition still at this hour in mom Casey`s car, the scent of death so bad, investigators say they can still smell it without even opening the car door. The stunning announcement comes as the defense team finally brings in their own forensic expert to examine mom Casey`s car.
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0811/14/ng.01.html
 
  • #65
Maybe this is what was picked up today regarding the 68.00 .

per Fifthessence

New Deposition Released

POSTED: 1:20 pm EST February 9, 2011
UPDATED: 1:34 pm EST February 9, 2011

http://www.wesh.com/caseyanthony/268...=casey+updates

The new transcript is from a Feb. 2 deposition of Texas EquuSearch volunteer William Fitzgerald

I hope someone got that; that was another defense tip-off to a news station. It even said "attorneys release transcript." They're still playing media games. I'm sure this motion will be available today though. oooh oooh if they do hear it maybe I'll get to see my dreamy hero YM testify. :loveyou:
 
  • #66
  • #67
Yep, it will stink and smell forever.

I've told here before about our experience with a vehicle that someone died in.

A few years back, my husband had an opportunity to buy a pretty good used pickup, that hadn't been driven in about 4 or 5yrs.

It belonged to a farmer, just a stripped down, no frills work on the farm pickup that he could use a power washer on if he wanted to.
All vinyl interior, floor mats, etc. Not even a radio in it. Heat only, no a/c.

Now, keep that in mind, as Casey's car had cloth uphosltery, probably carpeted floor mats, etc.~ The smell would have gone down into the seats foam padding.

The farmer passed away in it, and wasn't found for 4 days. He died in the winter, mind you even, in the cold midwest.
The truck reaked ~

The family parked the pickup behind the barn, with the windows down, thinking that by spring, it would have aired out.
It stayed there for years, because it continued to smell.
They removed the dash board, cleaned and ran water through every air duct and oriface that they thought would help.
Took the door panels off and cleaned behind those.
They stripped what could be stripped and put it back together. They even replaced the front seat.
Nothing helped, even after those 4-5yrs of sitting out in the elements to make that smell go away.

We got it pretty cheap ~ I refused to ride in it cause it made me sick. There was no getting rid of that smell.
Hubby rode in it all spring and summer with windows down, rain or shine. Winter, he hated to turn the heat on cause of the rank smell.

As I've explained and told before, yeah, that car is going to smell when this goes to trial.
I don't care if the trial gets delayed for another 20yrs, when it is opened up, people are going to be gagging ~ {sorry}

See post 412 here: http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showthread.php?p=4810952&highlight=episode#post4810952
 
  • #68
Can everyone say..........."Grasping at straws much"?

Looks like JB is down to the "silly" in his bag 'o tricks. Better tell his client to get her new address labels made to read....KC Anthony, Inmate #xxxxxx, D. Row, Town in FLA, FLA.

:cow:
 
  • #69
Is this the sniffer stuff HHJP was referring to? To which HHJP was reffering I mean? So there won't be any dead body scratch and sniff pictures? :waitasec:
 
  • #70
Those napkins with grave wax were in the trash bag so who is saying the garbage does not still smell? Didn't the bag have a rust color stain on it? If the trash, because there was no garbage, did not smell like garbage when it was removed from the bag then it won't smell like that now. If the trash smelled like decomp. it probably still has a faint odor now. If those articles did have an odor I can't imagine LE just putting it in a box they would have sealed it in a plastic bag because of the fact that they have to store it. I don't smell garbage I smell smoke. jmo
 
  • #71
As far as I can remember they haven't used the "dog ate my filing" yet.....so there is that one :twocents:

Or Thwarted by squirrels..perhaps not so happy squirrels?
 
  • #72
Oh, but they have the "great" Dr. Lee stating on NG that there was ham or something like that in the garbage, so yanno it's just gotta be true! *cough, cough* Methinks JB is in a :panic: and this is another straw to grasp. I remember the same thing as you - there was no actual food (NO PIZZA!! :D ) found in that trash.

Geez, I'm getting tired of this BS and I hope HHBP gives him what for and SOON!!

ETA, I've never known liquid laundry detergent to EVER smell badly, even when left in a hot car for weeks in the summertime. I will buy it on sale & tend to keep it in my trunk, lol....t. paper, too (I live alone so no one cares :) . Anyway, IF the lid was loose & IF there was a little bit left in the jug/bottle, it would have evaporated eventually & left a gooey residue, but it wouldn't "stink" - much less smell like a dead body.

re BBM: I CARE ITSY!!!! Pleeeeeeeze let that stuff out of your trunk before it snuffercates........:great::floorlaugh:
 
  • #73
Or Thwarted by squirrels..perhaps not so happy squirrels?

We've learned from this case that squirrels CAN thwart.......but they can be scraped off, thus thwarting their thwart.....okay, time for coffee.....
 
  • #74
Is this the sniffer stuff HHJP was referring to? To which HHJP was reffering I mean? So there won't be any dead body scratch and sniff pictures? :waitasec:

:silly:

:giggle: :goodpost:
 
  • #75
OMG. Just when I think a dumber motion couldn't possibly come up...are you telling me, Mr. Baez, that you are WHINING that you won't be able to say the smell of decomp in the back of Casey's car is garbage because the meanie LE let took the empty containers out of the garbage bag and let them air out? Seriously? So you want the decomp smell out because there's no garbage smell to compare it to? You whined about the sniffer stuff, but now you're saying there's no stuff to sniff? You want to snuff the sniffer stuff because LE took the sniff out of the stuff? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Are we on candid camera or something? Is Ashton Kutcher about to punk HHJP? This just can't be a real motion...yet it is...okay, I need to stop trying to make sense of it because I'm just going to go crazy...

Methinks the only stuff Baez is sniffing is about to give him an overdose! Rehab, Baez! You need an intervention!

I seriously think when the SA and HHJP read this motion, they won't know whether to laugh or cry...
 
  • #76
OMG. Just when I think a dumber motion couldn't possibly come up...are you telling me, Mr. Baez, that you are WHINING that you won't be able to say the smell of decomp in the back of Casey's car is garbage because the meanie LE let took the empty containers out of the garbage bag and let them air out? Seriously? So you want the decomp smell out because there's no garbage smell to compare it to? You whined about the sniffer stuff, but now you're saying there's no stuff to sniff? You want to snuff the sniffer stuff because LE took the sniff out of the stuff? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Are we on candid camera or something? Is Ashton Kutcher about to punk HHJP? This just can't be a real motion...yet it is...okay, I need to stop trying to make sense of it because I'm just going to go crazy...

Methinks the only stuff Baez is sniffing is about to give him an overdose! Rehab, Baez! You need an intervention!

I seriously think when the SA and HHJP read this motion, they won't know whether to laugh or cry...

BBM:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:
 
  • #77
Regarding liquid laundry detergent...I washed a sweatshirt in Gain that I had borrowed and had it in my car to give back. It sat all day in my hot car and my car smelled great!!! It actually makes a great air FRESHENER.
 
  • #78
OMG. Just when I think a dumber motion couldn't possibly come up...are you telling me, Mr. Baez, that you are WHINING that you won't be able to say the smell of decomp in the back of Casey's car is garbage because the meanie LE let took the empty containers out of the garbage bag and let them air out? Seriously? So you want the decomp smell out because there's no garbage smell to compare it to? You whined about the sniffer stuff, but now you're saying there's no stuff to sniff? You want to snuff the sniffer stuff because LE took the sniff out of the stuff? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Are we on candid camera or something? Is Ashton Kutcher about to punk HHJP? This just can't be a real motion...yet it is...okay, I need to stop trying to make sense of it because I'm just going to go crazy...

Methinks the only stuff Baez is sniffing is about to give him an overdose! Rehab, Baez! You need an intervention!

I seriously think when the SA and HHJP read this motion, they won't know whether to laugh or cry...

If LE went out today and purchased all the items in that bag and let them sit in a hot trunk for 12 days right before the trial. Then brought the bag to court, along with a sample from the trunk it would be easy to smell the difference between the two. So it makes no sense to complain that trash that did not smell like garbage would do so after 3 years in storage. JB just does not want anyone to smell anything, including the "roses." jmo
 
  • #79
OMG. Just when I think a dumber motion couldn't possibly come up...are you telling me, Mr. Baez, that you are WHINING that you won't be able to say the smell of decomp in the back of Casey's car is garbage because the meanie LE let took the empty containers out of the garbage bag and let them air out? Seriously? So you want the decomp smell out because there's no garbage smell to compare it to? You whined about the sniffer stuff, but now you're saying there's no stuff to sniff? You want to snuff the sniffer stuff because LE took the sniff out of the stuff? :floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

Are we on candid camera or something? Is Ashton Kutcher about to punk HHJP? This just can't be a real motion...yet it is...okay, I need to stop trying to make sense of it because I'm just going to go crazy...

Methinks the only stuff Baez is sniffing is about to give him an overdose! Rehab, Baez! You need an intervention!

I seriously think when the SA and HHJP read this motion, they won't know whether to laugh or cry...

AND..while I don't want to give the defense any ideas or help, but they always seem to miss the mark. I am no lawyer, but I think the better argument might have been to try and have the garbage thrown out because it was tossed into the dumpster and retrieved later. INSTEAD, they say the yucky stinky garbage isn't yucky stinky anymore, so it needs to be thrown out. I......don't......get......these.......people. To me, this is how I see JB....it's as if you have an itch and you scratch, but it's not quite the right spot.....
 
  • #80

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