2011.02.24 Deviant images & 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 found on a computer and memory stick

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if thats true, that they found those kinds of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the data sources then why havent they both been arrested?! isnt that kind of thing illegal over there in texas? over here they'd have been dragged out the door minute it was found and held till they proved it wasnt thiers. agree on the chances of BD saying she didnt know it was there and hasnt had time to ask SA yet......

grrrrrrrrrrrrr
 
Well, I took a nap..........Holy Moly. I knew something was coming, but this was not what I was expecting. OMG, and just yesterday she was offended about DRINKS being served, I have so many words for miss billie, but they probably would be considered "deviant"...so I'll shut up now.

There you are Teh - we were looking for you. Yes, she was offended by drinks and people looking in ugly places for her daughter -- but I guess kiddie and animal 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is okay.

I think you should probably get back to your nap, as today is gonna be a busy one here on the boards ;)

Big hugs,

Mel
 
What the hell-o does he mean, criminal charges could be filed? They d@mn sure better be filed if there was beastiality and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found.

Sorry, NO wiggle room for me on this.

I don't get it either -- Texas is supposed to be a kick-arss state (death penalty and all). Why are they wrapping these 2 in cotton-wool?

:waitasec:

Mel
 
What the hell-o does he mean, criminal charges could be filed? They d@mn sure better be filed if there was beastiality and child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 found.

Sorry, NO wiggle room for me on this.

I think that statement was made to let them know it could happen at any minute...make em' squirm kinda thing. And the funny thing is, it was found in THEIR bedroom, both of them should have the RSO label attached. Ya can't defend that, there's no defending child 🤬🤬🤬🤬. There is no way he had a memory stick and she didn't know what was on it. No way. They seem to have a jealous type relationship, they knew everything each other did. IMO.
 
if thats true, that they found those kinds of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the data sources then why havent they both been arrested?! isnt that kind of thing illegal over there in texas? over here they'd have been dragged out the door minute it was found and held till they proved it wasnt thiers. agree on the chances of BD saying she didnt know it was there and hasnt had time to ask SA yet......

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

It is certainly illegal. The fact that he has not been arrested yet makes me wonder f they were maybe hoping that if they let him be free to go about his business that maybe he would mess up. I think they are wanting to find Hailey, and until they do, they are putting him on hold. IMO

If he tried to get on a plane and leave the country, or tried to drive over into Mexico, he would be arrested imo.
 
There you are Teh - we were looking for you. Yes, she was offended by drinks and people looking in ugly places for her daughter -- but I guess kiddie and animal 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is okay.

I think you should probably get back to your nap, as today is gonna be a busy one here on the boards ;)

Big hugs,

Mel

Mel.......even better. I have to be gone today. Expect MAJOR news. :floorlaugh:
 
My first post on Hailey's threads but I read here, I just don't post.

Dang.

🤬🤬🤬🤬 doesn't bother me in the least. Deviant acts that are not illegal don't bother me in the least.

What does bother me is that in this particular instance we do not know the exact nature of the deviance that is by the sheer number of the images downloaded and saved of intense interest to one or both.

Exactly how deviant are we talking about? Are we talking about deviance where the images foster the fantasy of sexualized young adolescents? (grown women made up to appear to be between ages of 13-17)? Or are we talking some other deviance that has nothing whatsoever to do with this missing child?

It's not the 🤬🤬🤬🤬, it's not the deviance it's the volume that was saved. Saving means that the image was important enough to keep for another look IMHO.

Sure, I think a great many of us if not all members here at WS have stuff archived on our computer that would make most investigators gut clench up if we were the suspect in a murder case LOL.

And I won't even say that you might not find a trail of 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬 website viewings (I have three teens in my house at this time, they could be curious...it could happen...who knows?) but I can tell you what you won't find...

You won't find over a hundred thousand images of anything much less deviant 🤬🤬🤬🤬. Freakin' holy cow, over one hundred THOUSAND images.

Some body has a really really bad obsession. That stuff will bleed over into your real life, I firmly believe that....JMHO.

I sometimes wish there was a way for WS members to occasionally hide their identity by posting anonymously. This is one of those times.

I have known three men in my life who expressed an interest in bestiality. The whole idea creeps me out, and considering that it is illegal, it would seem the majority of people agree with me.

The first of these men was a coworker. He shared a disk of images with a couple of coworkers, one of whom had held onto it because it creeped HER out too. He started trying to date me, but there was just no way. At the time, my daughter was 7, and the idea of leaving her alone with him gave me the willies (he offered to watch her so I could take a class one night a week). One day I found a message on my home answering machine from his live-in girlfriend (who knew?) asking if I knew about his child-🤬🤬🤬🤬 website, and that the State's Attorney for St. Mary's County was investigating him.

I called the State's Attorney's office to verify (I thought she might think I was interested in him and made it up) and they did not answer directly, but let me know it was true. I was completely freaked out and that's when I learned for the first time about the disk. I never looked at the contents, but she told me there were 3 child-🤬🤬🤬🤬 images on it as well. I asked him directly and he told me that he had viewed child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 for "research purposes" because he had 3 daughters living with an ex-wife in another state and wanted to know what was out there.

I asked if he'd ONLY looked at images involving girl children and he said yes in a way that made me know it was NOT "just research." I felt sort of sick, having just learned all of this stuff about this guy who had been coming on to me for months, and asked him why he'd save images to a disk if it was just research. Somehow this led to him telling me he had several THOUSAND images of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 featuring little girls. I knew that HIS daughters were due to come for a 2-week visit, so I immediately called the Center for Missing and Exploited Children and the FBI. Like Billie, at the time I looked MUCH younger than I was, and was carded whenever I purchased alcohol, etc. and it upset me to think that might have been the reason he was interested in me.

I was interviewed by the FBI. They took my answering machine and my laptop (GFs message and he'd once used my laptop) and went away. I never heard a word from them after that, and never got my electronics back. I assumed he'd never been prosecuted. A few weeks ago I looked him up on the federal RSO website, and found he had served 5 years and was registered. He must have pled out, and my laptop just never got returned.

Second guy was a similar deal. He WAS someone I dated, and when I found out about the bestiality, it killed the relationship. 5 years later HE was convicted of child molestation, and sentenced to 15 years in prison (after 45 years were suspended).

The third guy, also someone I dated, introduced me to 🤬🤬🤬🤬. Not my thing, as it turns out. But once it was introduced, he was "hooked" (I think he just brought his existing addiction out into the open and he'd been into it all along). After a bit, he starting shifting to bestiality, first "by accident" and then "out of curiosity". Then he told me he'd dated a girl once who was very into it, and that HE was now very into it as a result. He asked me to do some things I found distasteful and degrading, and he would not let it go. That was the end of the relationship.

To date, I know of no child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 or molestation convictions, although he'd dated an 18 year old while in his late 40s, but 2 out of 3 guys I knew who were interested in bestiality ALSO were into kids.

Just my experience.

Definitely a deal-killer.
 
Doing some researching here, the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 takes this case to a new level and it may go through the grand jury first before charges are filed. Much to be done about identifying the child victims and if they were known to the perp. Taking it from a 3rd degree felony to a second degree felony. I think the crime meets the standard to charge once it's confirmed the owner of the pics. Beastiality seems to be decriminalized in most states if the animal was not harmed, waiting to find out.

Texas law

Texas Penal Code - Section 43.26. Possession Or Promotion Of Child 🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬

§ 43.26. POSSESSION OR PROMOTION OF CHILD
🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬🤬.

(a) A person commits an offense if:
(1) the person knowingly or intentionally possesses
visual material that visually depicts a child younger than 18 years
of age at the time the image of the child was made who is engaging in
sexual conduct; and
(2) the person knows that the material depicts the
child as described by Subdivision (1).
(b) In this section:
(1) "Promote" has the meaning assigned by Section
43.25.
(2) "Sexual conduct" has the meaning assigned by
Section 43.25.
(3) "Visual material" means:
(A) any film, photograph, videotape, negative,
or slide or any photographic reproduction that contains or
incorporates in any manner any film, photograph, videotape,
negative, or slide; or
(B) any disk, diskette, or other physical medium
that allows an image to be displayed on a computer or other video
screen and any image transmitted to a computer or other video screen
by telephone line, cable, satellite transmission, or other method.
(c) The affirmative defenses provided by Section 43.25(f)
also apply to a prosecution under this section.
(d) An offense under Subsection (a) is a felony of the third
degree.
(e) A person commits an offense if:
(1) the person knowingly or intentionally promotes or
possesses with intent to promote material described by Subsection
(a)(1); and
(2) the person knows that the material depicts the
child as described by Subsection (a)(1).
(f) A person who possesses visual material that contains six
or more identical visual depictions of a child as described by
Subsection (a)(1) is presumed to possess the material with the
intent to promote the material.
(g) An offense under Subsection (e) is a felony of the
second degree.​

http://law.onecle.com/texas/penal/43.26.00.html
 
Dear Lisa B,
Thank you for sharing that difficult stuff. I hope you have finally found a nice,regular guy now. That must have been awful to keep meeting weirdos. Sorry.
 
Ya know.....it just dawned on me. It's pretty stoopid to be going to speak at a child "trafficking" rally, the same week it is released that child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 was found in your home. The two go hand in hand........She has a way of pointing the finger at herself doesn't she?
 
Ya know.....it just dawned on me. It's pretty stoopid to be going to speak at a child "trafficking" rally, the same week it is released that child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 was found in your home. The two go hand in hand........She has a way of pointing the finger at herself doesn't she?

Oops there goes another rubber tree plant, she had high hopes, high hopes.

Morning teh...She's going down down down in that burning ring of fire.

I wonder what else they found on that puter...eh?
 
She had access to computers at work - apparently unfettered access insomuch as she was able to download several hundred pages' worth of differing crimes/criminals' history/info. I don't think it is out of the realm of reason that she could print or view pictures from a thumb drive.

I'm actually really surprised the hospital's internet access didn't have a better firewall in place. I bet it does now. :)
This day and age NO WAY she got on 🤬🤬🤬🤬 sites while at work! Nurses and doctors buzzing all around her! NOT buying it! (maybe after hours? but still unlkely)
I think she had access to a computer AND internet AT HOME! just lied and said she didn't!
I also think she indeed printed the 200+ pages at work cause she didn't have a printer and /or ink cartridges are expensive! (this I do think she did after hours maybe in the Dr's lounge or something?)
MOO :cow:
 
Oops there goes another rubber tree plant, she had high hopes, high hopes.

Morning teh...She's going down down down in that burning ring of fire.

I wonder what else they found on that puter...eh?

I'm almost afraid to find out what "else" was on it. However I am beginning to understand why she stays at home. She knows what all is coming.
 
I think it might be a blessing in disguise if she attends that rally. She will not be warmly received by the other speakers /attendees, imo. A few of them are survivors of child sexual abuse and torture. Some were victims of sex trafficking. How do ya'll think they are going to appreciate someone with a large collection of child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 and bestiality?
 
Ya know.....it just dawned on me. It's pretty stoopid to be going to speak at a child "trafficking" rally, the same week it is released that child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 was found in your home. The two go hand in hand........She has a way of pointing the finger at herself doesn't she?

She always has Teh. You could have knocked me over with a feather when she announced on NG that she failed the lie detector test. Of course, perhaps by stating she failed, she hoped to somehow deflect Shawn's failure of the test.

I'm just seeing a big ol' box of rocks here.
 
if thats true, that they found those kinds of 🤬🤬🤬🤬 on the data sources then why havent they both been arrested?! isnt that kind of thing illegal over there in texas? over here they'd have been dragged out the door minute it was found and held till they proved it wasnt thiers. agree on the chances of BD saying she didnt know it was there and hasnt had time to ask SA yet......

grrrrrrrrrrrrr

bbm. If that's true? Do you mean that you think the Sheriff, an officer of the law, is lying in the statement he made to the press?
 
I'm almost afraid to find out what "else" was on it. However I am beginning to understand why she stays at home. She knows what all is coming.

I wonder how long before she makes some kind of 'statement' in response. ?
 
Doing some researching here, the child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 takes this case to a new level and it may go through the grand jury first before charges are filed. Much to be done about identifying the child victims and if they were known to the perp. Taking it from a 3rd degree felony to a second degree felony. I think the crime meets the standard to charge once it's confirmed the owner of the pics. Beastiality seems to be decriminalized in most states if the animal was not harmed, waiting to find out.

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Why would it need to go to a grand jury? Child 🤬🤬🤬🤬 is against the law regardless of how you look at it. I want to know why arrests haven't been made! They found this in early January?
 
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