2011.03.06 ~ Man's body found in Skyline area of NW Portland

[freefallzzzz]

I agree =)
Actually I've been following the searches via radio and in person, since the beginning being a local, and there are many searches that the media have not published, in part probably because they didn't know or if they did hear on the radio like myself they still have to verify it through MCSO.

I only chose to disclose this location due to the fact that media had been with searchers during the time of that particular location..

The others I have not disclosed due to the fact MCSO has not disclosed to the public..

I don't believe the man found is related to the case but I do find it quite unusual, I guess you would have to drive up there to understand.. it's just odd...

I just hope Kyron is found soon so his family can have resolution...

 

[loves2bmom]

I agree with both of you!

I don't think he's related to this case either but the location of the body is just WOW. I saw a bit of it on the news last night where they were showing an investigator looking for clues where the man was found and also noting the address they quoted. It's less than a mile from one of the main areas that was searched that Sunday when Free was up there. (Free, that UTM you gave me is where I see the most tape) It's just such a weird coincidence. I was one of those that rolled my eyes at the DAD connection simply because he had a house on Sauvie Island. There's no way DAD is connected. I also don't think this guy is connected but it's just incredible how close he was found to the searching. If someone can connect him back to TMH, then I'm totally on board. Since there was no sign of trauma to the body and they are awaiting toxicology results, I'm betting it was just a drug/alcohol OD. MCSO is still calling his death suspicious though.

Doodles, I was also thinking of doing a map where I saw search tape but wasn't sure if that was a good idea before they found him. The tape is spread out over a large area, that's for sure.

 

[GrainneDhu]

I also don't think this guy is connected but it's just incredible how close he was found to the searching. If someone can connect him back to TMH, then I'm totally on board. Since there was no sign of trauma to the body and they are awaiting toxicology results, I'm betting it was just a drug/alcohol OD. MCSO is still calling his death suspicious though.

SBM

I assume that the reason his body was up there was precisely because it is somewhat remote. Less chance of anyone seeing the person(s) who placed the body there.

I assume it's called suspicious because it seems unlikely to me that he hiked up there to lie down and die. Someone had a vehicle and dropped him off there at some point either before or after death.

Since there was no obvious trauma, if it turns out to be an OD then I wonder if the guy OD'd on his own and his significant other, friends or whoever was around at the time of death freaked out and tried to hide the body.

 

[Doodles]

I agree with both of you!

I don't think he's related to this case either but the location of the body is just WOW. I saw a bit of it on the news last night where they were showing an investigator looking for clues where the man was found and also noting the address they quoted. It's less than a mile from one of the main areas that was searched that Sunday when Free was up there. (Free, that UTM you gave me is where I see the most tape) It's just such a weird coincidence. I was one of those that rolled my eyes at the DAD connection simply because he had a house on Sauvie Island. There's no way DAD is connected. I also don't think this guy is connected but it's just incredible how close he was found to the searching. If someone can connect him back to TMH, then I'm totally on board. Since there was no sign of trauma to the body and they are awaiting toxicology results, I'm betting it was just a drug/alcohol OD. MCSO is still calling his death suspicious though.

Doodles, I was also thinking of doing a map where I saw search tape but wasn't sure if that was a good idea before they found him. The tape is spread out over a large area, that's for sure.

It's a bit much to connect anything in the news with the Kyron investigation. The DAD connection because of his house on Sauvie Island made my roll my eyes too. The body found by the side of the road on Skyline reminds me of every body dump across the U.S., especially those along roads near wooded areas. I trust MSCO to do all cross-checks necessary.

Tuba in Forensic Astrology asked for a map because she is interested in many things pertaining to that area and the investigation. Her interest does not mean there is a connection, but if there is one, she will find it.

Doing a map of the search areas would be interesting, but it is a time-consuming task, and it would not be complete without all the search areas. You might be more frustrated with what you do not know. Every time I email MSCO for detailed info about the search areas, they suggest I mind my own @#$% business. (Joking.) When this is over, they may provide the public with a map of the search areas.

My master map at Google will be updated with things that are mentioned relative to the investigation, but that does not mean that anything plotted has something to do with Kyron's disappearance except, of course, the marker for his school.

Here's a no-info map. There is a rumor about an 11-acre search to the east of the school in February. I plotted an area that might be considered "east of the school".
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...297778605998812775.00049d0fbb346fac90d26&z=12

 

[scandi]

It's a bit much to connect anything in the news with the Kyron investigation. The DAD connection because of his house on Sauvie Island made my roll my eyes too. The body found by the side of the road on Skyline reminds me of every body dump across the U.S., especially those along roads near wooded areas. I trust MSCO to do all cross-checks necessary.

Tuba in Forensic Astrology asked for a map because she is interested in many things pertaining to that area and the investigation. Her interest does not mean there is a connection, but if there is one, she will find it.

Doing a map of the search areas would be interesting, but it is a time-consuming task, and it would not be complete without all the search areas. You might be more frustrated with what you do not know. Every time I email MSCO for detailed info about the search areas, they suggest I mind my own @#$% business. (Joking.) When this is over, they may provide the public with a map of the search areas.

My master map at Google will be updated with things that are mentioned relative to the investigation, but that does not mean that anything plotted has something to do with Kyron's disappearance except, of course, the marker for his school.

Here's a no-info map. There is a rumor about an 11-acre search to the east of the school in February. I plotted an area that might be considered "east of the school".
http://maps.google.com/maps/ms?hl=e...297778605998812775.00049d0fbb346fac90d26&z=12

Thanks Doodles, I really appreciate your work here and devotion to Kyron's case.

Re: the area 11 miles E of the school that you have mapped out in pink, can you tell us where the 11 mile marker would be? You have taken it down to the water, but if the southern most point you mark is 11 miles, wouldn't that 11 mile mark go well into SI if you go up to straight east?

In case Desiree gave the wrong direction on purpose so the public would not descend on the search area in droves, could you also draw the 11 mile area from the center point of the school in all directions. If I knew how I'd do it. :waitasec:

As to the interest Tuba has in the recent dead man found off Skyline, I also give her absolute grace even tho LE has said he is not involved with Kyron's case. LE will lie with all legality, no compunction needed on their part, doing whatever they feel it will take to further the case. We've seen it over and over in the cases we study here at WS.

Ta

 

[cluciano63]

Did she say 11 acres or 11 miles?

 

[Doodles]

Thanks Doodles, I really appreciate your work here and devotion to Kyron's case.

Re: the area 11 miles E of the school that you have mapped out in pink, can you tell us where the 11 mile marker would be? You have taken it down to the water, but if the southern most point you mark is 11 miles, wouldn't that 11 mile mark go well into SI if you go up to straight east?

In case Desiree gave the wrong direction on purpose so the public would not descend on the search area in droves, could you also draw the 11 mile area from the center point of the school in all directions. If I knew how I'd do it. :waitasec:

As to the interest Tuba has in the recent dead man found off Skyline, I also give her absolute grace even tho LE has said he is not involved with Kyron's case. LE will lie with all legality, no compunction needed on their part, doing whatever they feel it will take to further the case. We've seen it over and over in the cases we study here at WS.

Ta

Scandi, it's 11 acres of land, not 11 miles. I have an "as the crow flies" line on the map from the school to the east, and it is 3.25 miles before ending at water. The 11 acres could be anywhere to the east.

The pink area is spread away from the school because "east" could mean anything from NE to SE. I have noticed that some news reports state the 1/30 search areas and the location of the man's body were west of the school even though I would consider them NW or NNW.

Tuba has found interesting clues in things I would never consider as possibilities for charting. If there were a possibility of a link, she would find it. If she asks for a map, I will make her one any time. It does not guarantee a link, but she is willing to spend the time to look.

 

[Leomoon80]

Did he know the missing man on the run, D. Durham, who shot the cop?

IF so, then............

Have the LE checked that out thoroughly I wonder.

 

[gwenabob]

Based on the interview Desiree gave, she mentioned the 11 acres east of the school in the context of Sauvie Island. I really thought she meant they were searching east of the school on Sauvie Island, not Skyline school.

 

[scandi]

Scandi, it's 11 acres of land, not 11 miles. I have an "as the crow flies" line on the map from the school to the east, and it is 3.25 miles before ending at water. The 11 acres could be anywhere to the east.

The pink area is spread away from the school because "east" could mean anything from NE to SE. I have noticed that some news reports state the 1/30 search areas and the location of the man's body were west of the school even though I would consider them NW or NNW.

Tuba has found interesting clues in things I would never consider as possibilities for charting. If there were a possibility of a link, she would find it. If she asks for a map, I will make her one any time. It does not guarantee a link, but she is willing to spend the time to look.

Thanks Doodles, I went back to find the link, can't find it written out but here is a link to her presser: http://www.kpic.com/news/local/116678914.html?video=pop&t=a

You were right and she said LE was now searching east of the school in an area where they know she was and it is an 11 acre piece of land. Sorry about that and thanks for the clarification.

Interestingly, right after that Desiree starts to talk about SI and how much land is there to search. She mentioned something about it is the largest body of water in the US {SS} where as I think she wanted to say SI is bigger than Manhattan Island which is huge. I think that as Kaine had said that before.

 

[Ms Suzanne]

Is this another mans body found also?


Police: Body Found In North Portland



http://www.kptv.com/news/27170991/detail.html

 

[loves2bmom]

Is this another mans body found also?


Police: Body Found In North Portland



http://www.kptv.com/news/27170991/detail.html

Yes! No new information since they released that small article last night.

 

[Beatrice]

Coincidences?

Terri's cell phone pinged on Sauvie Island
She told a friend early on that she drove south on Rt. 30 (???)

David Anthony Durham "D.A.D." lives on Sauvie Island and worked at
Williamette Print & Blueprint
3461 NW Yeon Ave.
Portland , OR 97210


Suspicious death #1: Javier Trejo Richarte

Found on Skyline Rd. between Moreland & Johnson

(Near Search Area A and Chas' "north of Logie Rd.")

Addresses associated with victim Javier Trejo Richarte:


3900 NW YEON AVE
PORTLAND OR 97210.................................Container Recovery Inc. (Recycling)

6120 SW 162ND PL
ALOHA OR 97007......................................Terri had lived in Aloha

2435 SW ECOLE AVE
CEDAR HILLS OR 97005...............................Apartment complex

D.A.D worked at Williamette Printing (Yeon Rd)
One Javier address: Industrial containers (Yeon Rd)
Latest murder victim: Greeley Ave. and Interstate Ave. (Directly east of Yeon Rd. area)

 

[scandi]

Coincidences?

Terri's cell phone pinged on Sauvie Island
She told a friend early on that she drove south on Rt. 30 (???)

David Anthony Durham "D.A.D." lives on Sauvie Island and worked at
Williamette Print & Blueprint
3461 NW Yeon Ave.
Portland , OR 97210


Suspicious death #1: Javier Trejo Richarte

Found on Skyline Rd. between Moreland & Johnson

(Near Search Area A and Chas' "north of Logie Rd.")

Addresses associated with victim Javier Trejo Richarte:


3900 NW YEON AVE
PORTLAND OR 97210.................................Container Recovery Inc. (Recycling)

6120 SW 162ND PL
ALOHA OR 97007......................................Terri had lived in Aloha

2435 SW ECOLE AVE
CEDAR HILLS OR 97005...............................Apartment complex

D.A.D worked at Williamette Printing (Yeon Rd)
One Javier address: Industrial containers (Yeon Rd)
Latest murder victim: Greeley Ave. and Interstate Ave. (Directly east of Yeon Rd. area)

I think it's better than you said Beatrice, as she stated she drove on Hwy #30 that morning in her email of June 5th. That was the day after Kyron vanished. That was before she became suspicious to the public and soon thereafter became silent, realizing she might have sunk herself into posterity as suspicious, placing herself in all that she stated. She couldn't take the email back and KOIN found it thru one of their sources.

Thank God for that email of June 5th. xox

 

[loves2bmom]

I don't know Beatrice. If you did 6 degrees of separation, I could be the perp. I'm not meaning that as a dig, I just think that you could link lots of us in Portland to different areas on a map. The guy that was found Friday night was near a large homeless population. If I had to say one of these men is related to Kyron's crime, I'd say the man found up on Skyline but not the other two! If you could connect him more directly to TMH, then I would thoroughly be convinced. JMO of course!

 

[loves2bmom]

Actually, I had another thought about one of those addresses for Mr Richarte. Can anyone remember a Beaverton Apartment address for DDS? I thought she had an address in the Cedar Hills area? By the way, when it says Cedar Hills, 97005 it's really Beaverton.

 

[Beatrice]

Dede L. Spicher's condo:
SW Sagert St
Tualatin, OR 97062

Dede's house:
12712 NW Bishop Rd.
Hillsboro, OR. 97124

 

[Beatrice]

2nd suspicious death:

http://www.oregonlive.com/portland/index.ssf/2011/03/police_investigate_death_in_no.html

 

[loves2bmom]

Dede L. Spicher's condo:
SW Sagert St
Tualatin, OR 97062

Dede's house:
12712 NW Bishop Rd.
Hillsboro, OR. 97124

Thanks for looking those up Beatrice. I think it was an older address for her. An apartment complex in Beaverton near Cedar Hills. I'll have to dig through some old stuff and see if I'm just misremembering. (is that a word..LOL)

 

[PDXMom]

Is this another mans body found also?


Police: Body Found In North Portland



http://www.kptv.com/news/27170991/detail.html

My partner lives very close to this location, and I know there is a big, heavily treed park there where homeless adults often hang out/sleep/party, etc.