2011.04.01 MOD ONLY: Frye Hearing Summary (READ ONLY)

[Melanie]

The difference between this witness and vess (vass) is night and day. I recall the judge just mesmerized - going between Ashton and the witness and back again. He couldn't take his eyes/ears off of him. Now the judge doesn't seem interested at all. This speaks volumes to me -- he's not buying what this witness is trying to sell (IMHO).

Mel

 

[sleutherontheside]

So KC had a little giggle fest with JB and CM...

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Then the other attorney took out his cell phone and was showing KC....
JB was staring at them the whole time like a jealous boyfriend.
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The JB walked in front of KC while on his own phone as if to say..."KC look at me....I have a phone too."
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[wenwe4]

KF normally chemists would be making interpretations of results - someone with a statistical background for statisistical findings

JB are you familiar w/gas chromatigraph

JA same objection -
HHBP i don't know what he is about to ask

 

[wenwe4]

KF normally chemists would be making interpretations of results - someone with a statistical background for statisistical findings

JB are you familiar w/gas chromatigraph

JA same objection -
HHBP i don't know what he is about to ask

 

[Chiquita71]

I missed the first part of this today and so just watched CAs testimony on WESH. What I find MOST frustrating about listening to the Anthony's testify is that every time they are called to the carpet on a lie, they appeal to how traumatic everything was, or something to that extent. It's ridiculous how they side step responsibility at every chance. What I do find amusing is that they seem to believe that it's a good response, when in reality it just paints them in a terrible light. People see through their crap and I don't think this will be lost on a jury.

RespectfullyQuoted jharres :cool2:

ITA. :tyou:

Jose is asking his witness if he has had a chance to review the gas chromographer(sorry wrong spelling like crazy).

HHJP is asking what mr. baez is challenging...says he does not know where he is going. jose is explaining he is not challenging the gas thingy itself but the procedures...

HHJP says, "I thought we were doing a frye hearing."

 

[sleutherontheside]

Me thinks HHJP went back and read the court transcripts. His demeanor has changed with regard to the stipulation.

 

[Softail]

Judge - I thought we were doing a Frye hearing. Enlighten me if we are doing something other than that.

 

[wenwe4]

HHBP We look at opinions and then you have obligation to cross examine - it is virtually impossible to give every opinion that witness might testify to. the problem is that what he will testify to - i do not know. if i can't know what may or may not be coming out of his mouth - then there is an objection

 

[wenwe4]

jb how would you quantify a chemical
kf a variety of methods - internal or external standard - reference to known concentrations that is universal

jb you purchase a standard tells how much a specific chemical is there
kf yes a series of standards - reference unknowns to standard

 

[joypath]

:maddening: Finally able to sit & watch :seeya:................Looks like I missed plenty! :great:


LOL love this qual vs quant education we're getting!

ummmmmmmmm there's a HUGE difference between analytical data for interpretation and overt data to formulate an opinion. N. B. opinions MUST be defended on the stand in court!

And....................isn't this a FRYE HEARING?????? Seems like HHJP WILL be giving latitude to both sides to get in as much information on the record BEFORE he reaches his decision! IMHO, good "judging"! :truce:

 

[sleutherontheside]

HHJP: "A case is a case Mr. Baez."

 

[jharres]

JB: Have you ever seen this in a death penalty case?
JA: Objection
HHJP: Sustained, a case is a case Mr. Baez.

 

[Chiquita71]

Jose is asking witness about the methods Dr. Voss "employed." As a "juror" Jose seems to be asking this witness to discredit Dr. Voss.

JA: objected
Judge: sustained

Jose asking about the stain in the trunk.

JA: objects to the fbi evidence being challenged

Jose says he is not trying to challenge.

sustained rephrase the question.

 

[wenwe4]

JB was dr rickenbocks quanitifcation different than dr vass
JA objection

JB dr vass made crazy
JA I object to counsel editorial commentary

JB i stood here all day and listened to Mr ashton editorial comments

HHBP folks we are going to lunch 5 minutes early - i would stop at favorite atm machine

 

[wenwe4]

JB was dr rickenbocks quanitifcation different than dr vass
JA objection

JB dr vass made crazy
JA I object to counsel editorial commentary

JB i stood here all day and listened to Mr ashton editorial comments

HHBP folks we are going to lunch 5 minutes early - i would stop at favorite atm machine

 

[sleutherontheside]

"You know folks...we're going to lunch. I would stop by my favorite ATM machine."

 

[sleutherontheside]

"You know folks...we're going to lunch. I would stop by my favorite ATM machine."

 

[Chiquita71]

objection: hearsay

JA: editorial comments, we need to be above that...

Judge: gentleman, one at a time

JA: editoral comment is unprofessional

JB: I have listened to editorial comment all day long but I will be professional...

Judge: We are going to lunch...I would stop by my favorite vending machine...both of you have been loud, audible comments, enough is enough folks...the last time I checked folks I don't have a hearing problem I can hear voices...I look for a certain level of professionalism...I have had enough of the back and forth between the two of you this is what I am going to do...100 dollars will go to united way...

I can go through numbers and contempt will be on your records and you will be in contempt...interrupting...enough is enough...not rising when you make an objection...supposed to be seasoned trial lawyers....

 

[KaylynnCouture]

Judge: "We're going to go to lunch. I would stop by the ATM machine....enough is enough folks. I don't have a hearing problem. I can hear normal voices. I look for a certain level of professionalism. I don't look for loud shouting. I've had enough of the back and forth between the two of you. If it happens again you can fork over $100 which will go to United Way or I can go through the numbers and go through contempt, by the numbers, and it will be on your records and then you can pay $100. But enough is enough folks."

Super well said. This is ridiculous. I've never seen 2 people (and adults, at that) who absolutely cannot get along like these two.

 

[Softail]

Baez - Dr. Vass made CRAZY levels of chloroform.

JA - I object to the editorial comments. CRAZY? It is inappropriate.

Baez - I have to listen to editorial comments all day from Mr. Ashton

Judge - Folks we are going to lunch. 5 minutes early. I suggest you stop at an ATM machine. You are both loud, enough is enough folks. Last time I checked, I don't have a hearing problem. YET. I look for a certain level of professionalism, not loud shouting. I've had enough of the back and forth. When it happens again, you can voluntarily give your $100 which will go to the United Way, or I can put it on your records.