2011.05.16 Nancy Grace

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  • #41
NG to JC: why can't we do more of a background search on the jurors?

JC: Constitutionally it's their right. (also adds) I see a lot of stealth jurors.

The End.
 
  • #42
I really want to like NG's shows but I feel so often "baited and switched" . . . just saying . .
 
  • #43
Leonard Padilla (on ICA behavior): when ICA got into the argument with JB it was typical behavior; she will demonstrate her ability to shut down and stay away from it. Talking about when Tracy was with her it was always "which Casey is going to show up?"

Marc Klass (on jury selection; family not in courtroom): Total faith in the system: no doubt that the court will be able to seat the jurors. As far as GA, CA, LA not being there it looks like there will be finger pointing at them during the trial.

The black and white love or hate is a symptom of borderline called splitting.

http://www.bpd411.org/splittingintro.html
 
  • #44
When it comes to NG and her bombshells, why is it that I always end up feeling like Charlie Brown when Lucy holds the football?!

Well remember.....it IS the "NG Entertainment Show" :floorlaugh:
 
  • #45
I am surprised by that last comment regarding 'a lot of stealth jurors'. I just am not seeing alot of stealth jurors. Maybe I am too dumb and naive.
 
  • #46
Diane Dimond: ICA either very good actress or something is very wrong with her; robotic, only noticed speak with JB one time past week.

Jury consultant Carolyn: ICA went from high anxiety, to a jovial personality. Neither one will work and she must be respectful of the court. SA can't be too happy with p/j who have arrest records, wouldn't want them at all.

BBM:

Just tuned into the NG "Entertainment Show" and heard DD's comments:

I "vote" for "good actress" ... MOO MOO MOO ... it is all a "show" for ICA ..

I believe ICA KNOWS what she is doing ... and that she killed her daughter !

NG's video-clip team is great ... I saw some of clips and they really do a great job of showing all the "looks" of ICA in the court room and videos clips from "memory lane" ...
:great:
 
  • #47
Well remember.....it IS the "NG Entertainment Show" :floorlaugh:

I keep coming back . . . hoping I won't be as disappointed this time as I was the last . . .
 
  • #48
NG to JC: why can't we do more of a background search on the jurors?

JC: Constitutionally it's their right. (also adds) I see a lot of stealth jurors.

The End.

I wonder who JC was thinking about when she said she sees ' A LOT' of potential stealth jurors. ???
 
  • #49
Dagnabbit!
I should consider the source before I drop the can of furniture polish and race to the puter..As i whooshed past the hubby, I said I was never cleaning again till after trial..
I look away from the puter for one second..and stuff happens!!!
Thank you Strawberry, it was very Charlie Brownish.. AArrgghhh.
I'm not falling for that again, Mz Grace.
<snarl>

ETA. I'm sorry ladies, got you gals mixed up.. My-T mouse mentioned Charlie Brown.. My apologies.
 
  • #50
I am surprised by that last comment regarding 'a lot of stealth jurors'. I just am not seeing alot of stealth jurors. Maybe I am too dumb and naive.

I remember thinking a couple of times that a few PTs were trying really hard to give the 'right' answers and seemed to be covering up how much knowledge they really had about the case. But I cannot remember who just now because it is all a blur in my mind.

I think the young female nursing student was one I wondered about. Is she still in?
 
  • #51
I wonder who JC was thinking about when she said she sees ' A LOT' of potential stealth jurors. ???

Too bad that was right at the end of the program and she couldn't expand on that thought more.
:waitasec:
 
  • #52
This one?
Juror #1055, female, nursing student, 32 years of age, single, no kids. Wants to be on jury.

Yes, she is currently still on. I personally don't see her as a 'stealth juror'. I sure wouldn't want a whole jury made up of people who didn't want to serve.
 
  • #53
JC has been on IS all week covering the case. She called at least half of the pj's "stealth juror" starting with the first one. They threw that around so much I turned the sound off when JC was commenting.
 
  • #54
JC has been on IS all week covering the case. She called at least half of the pj's "stealth juror" starting with the first one. They threw that around so much I turned the sound off when JC was commenting.

I have been puzzled by JC reporting on this case. She seem to change once she did the interview with CM.

She has said that there are stealth jurors on the jury simply because many of them have not kept up with the Anthony case.

When actually there are a lot of people that aren't interested in crime stories like we are here and at other sites. They really don't watch NG, JVM or GR. I think that is hard for JC to grasp.

IMO
 
  • #55
JV and NG have a lot of damage control to do to save their show. They both have gotten so much bad commercials for their shows the past few days. LMAO I'm sure a few tuned in that never have just to see for themselves so they might get a short lived spike in ratings.
 
  • #56
I was really hoping she would show the clip from Saturday of ICA sitting stone faced as that poor pj detailed loosing her son and how it changes a person and it is out of the natural order and that it is a parental obligation to participate in the death investigation. Oh well. :sigh:
 
  • #57
Just a general observation - and a caveat - I did not see the show tonite. I think it's important to remember that HLN CNN and IN SESSION are all part of the same media conglomerate. For the most part, they play different roles - some of which includes news, but much of which must fall under the head of "infotainment." Somewhere today I said that none of these folks have no real interest in reporting facts, or at least ONLY reporting facts. Their J O B is to parse the information as fine as possible in order to find controversy, expand and exploit that controversy, for the sake of generating controversy, and thereby ratings. It's "churn." It's "spin." Not one of these folks actually has a genuine abiding interest in this case. Not one of them is going to be lining up for a Murrow award anytime soon. It's about numbers - ratings and benjamins. If you can accept that, and fight your way through the general b.s., every once in awhile, you'll get a nugget of information. After that - phhhht. Don't let these personalities get you down (or up for that matter). And never, ever, especially this far into this "circus" take anything at face value. I'd say apply this to your local news as well - keep watching, but with a very, very jaundiced eye. IMHO
 
  • #58
Just a general observation - and a caveat - I did not see the show tonite. I think it's important to remember that HLN CNN and IN SESSION are all part of the same media conglomerate. For the most part, they play different roles - some of which includes news, but much of which must fall under the head of "infotainment." Somewhere today I said that none of these folks have no real interest in reporting facts, or at least ONLY reporting facts. Their J O B is to parse the information as fine as possible in order to find controversy, expand and exploit that controversy, for the sake of generating controversy, and thereby ratings. It's "churn." It's "spin." Not one of these folks actually has a genuine abiding interest in this case. Not one of them is going to be lining up for a Murrow award anytime soon. It's about numbers - ratings and benjamins. If you can accept that, and fight your way through the general b.s., every once in awhile, you'll get a nugget of information. After that - phhhht. Don't let these personalities get you down (or up for that matter). And never, ever, especially this far into this "circus" take anything at face value. I'd say apply this to your local news as well - keep watching, but with a very, very jaundiced eye. IMHO


I disagree.

Nancy Grace may be offensive to some, but I do believe her heart is in it. I do believe that she truly wants justice for victims.

Is her message commercialized? Absolutley, but again, I really believe her HEART is in the right place.

There are not many who even mention any of these victims anymore. So, for that, I give her alot of credit. :twocents:
 
  • #59
Softail - Peace - we're on the same side. I don't argue NG's ardent position. She's positioned as an advocacy journalist. However, as we have seen, her "take" supports her position - there's very little give and take that she suffers. I happen to agree with her on this case, but she's been the font of a great deal of misinformation (see LP et. al.). So while I may applaud her here - I must take what she says with a very healthy grain of salt - and temper it with my own reading of the evidence. And that's basically my point - we have a rare opportunity to read all the actual evidence here. It's a great learning experience.
 
  • #60
I remember thinking a couple of times that a few PTs were trying really hard to give the 'right' answers and seemed to be covering up how much knowledge they really had about the case. But I cannot remember who just now because it is all a blur in my mind.

I think the young female nursing student was one I wondered about. Is she still in?

Softail - Peace - we're on the same side. I don't argue NG's ardent position. She's positioned as an advocacy journalist. However, as we have seen, her "take" supports her position - there's very little give and take that she suffers. I happen to agree with her on this case, but she's been the font of a great deal of misinformation (see LP et. al.). So while I may applaud her here - I must take what she says with a very healthy grain of salt - and temper it with my own reading of the evidence. And that's basically my point - we have a rare opportunity to read all the actual evidence here. It's a great learning experience.


NG is the only talking head speaking out for Caylee, I know she is in your face about things, not entirely accurate to say the least but she is %100 for Caylee and any other victim she spotlights. I don't think she would have much of a show if she wasn't such a forceful advocate for victims everywhere. So I'm gonna give the lady a pass, sometimes, sadly she is all we have.

Now JVM is someone I really wouldn't miss...
 
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