2011.05.18 Sidebar Thread (Jury Selection DAY NINE)

[Della]

JB has had stomach trouble since taking on this case. Don't remember just what - perhaps an ulcer.

 

[A_News_Junkie]

Of note, IMHO - seems all of JB stuff except empty water bottles gone when ICA walks in???? Did I see that correct?

Part 1: View description.
[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RMrSJvo22Bk[/ame]

 

[MaryAnn]

The defense has called that a piecemeal approach, contending it violates Anthony's due process rights.

Perry denied the objection from the defense, saying he had gone above and beyond to give both sides ample opportunity to select a fair and impartial jury.

 

[logicalgirl]

If ICA pleas out - does JB get his death trial status? Maybe he doesn't and he stormed off in a hissy fit.

 

[Aedrys]

Defense counsel Lisabeth Fryer files a motion to contest the method of jury selection Wednesday.

Is this the motion from this morning, or a new one?!!?!?!

 

[gibby207]

If it's plea talk, maybe JB and ICA are saying "no" while the rest of the DT are saying "yes," hence the division of tables at lunch, etc. LOL

Reaching, I know...

 

[MaryAnn]

They are out because they are contesting the method of jury selection .

 

[21merc7]

I still dunno what is going on. But, if you want to check for any Motions being filed, wouldn't you check the Orlando Court since that is where trial would be? They wouldn't just flop something to review the jury selection or recuse Judge P on the bench without first making sure it was filed in the appropriate Court. Well, the shouldn't would be a better choice of words.

If JB is sick, it had best be extremely serious. His rep, or nonrep, just got a million tons more poo added to it if not. I truly do not hope he is sick, don't get me wrong.

 

[mombomb]

Although it is unlikely it seems much more likely then most of the theories going around atm (if that makes sense ).

The only four things that spring to mind: Plea deals are never off the table so to speak, so although the SA can remove an offer at the start of the trial there is always a possibility of re-instating it if the defense asks. Indeed, it is possible to make a agreement/"plea deal" after conviction in many US jurisdictions (if not all).

Secondly, it would be interesting if ICA was wanting to plead out since it is quite inconsistent with the sociopathy that people have suggested previously. Although, saying that, I suppose there was always a possibility for her to face reality and save herself.

Thirdly, there is no reason for JB to come off the case just because she is pleading guilty. Indeed, I view it as poor practice and unethical so to do. If the Client has admitted guilt and wants to plead guilty then she is quite entitled to do so.

Fourthly, I am unsure if there was anything to indicate that DP was likely. Although, perhaps the DT thought that it was a toss up between LWOP and DP and nothing else was going to happen.

But all in all a realistic possibility.

Could there have been a disagreement amongst the DT with everyone suggesting taking a plea deal except JB? Maybe he gave up after his passionate speech this morning. He promised ICA that he would get her off and just left when he realized the rest of the DT was in total disagreement with him.

 

[logicalgirl]

I really don't think there's any way it's a plea deal:

A) To me, JP saying, "Did you have a chance to explain the matter to ICA" rules that out. This tells me that something happened that Mason had to explain to ICA.

I think it's some personal business of JB's, maybe even a family emergency, and since he's lead council, they are going to hold up for him.

B) I cannot believe that she would EVER in a million years agree to a plea deal because that would mean confessing. She will NEVER do that. EVER. Heaven forfend she'll lose the chance to ruin what's left of her parents' and brother's lives.


I really think JB needed to be out for personal reasons.

They will resume tomorrow and have Thursday, Friday, and Saturday to get the Jury and alternates.

The trial will start Monday, just as JP said.

ICA doesn't have to confess. Her lawyer can do it for her. She only needs to agree to the plea change.

 

[Softail]

The defense has called that a piecemeal approach, contending it violates Anthony's due process rights.

Perry denied the objection from the defense, saying he had gone above and beyond to give both sides ample opportunity to select a fair and impartial jury.

This happened 1st thing this morning. It was :denied:

 

[MaryAnn]

Is this the motion from this morning, or a new one?!!?!?!

I think a new one. Posted at 2:08pm today

 

[Trapshooter]

on the replay watch the Judges eyes very closely right after he stated the court will be in recess until tomorrow moring.

Once the Judge said "court will be in recess", I noticed his eyes were shooting daggers towards the DT table and ICA. IIRC, the Judge looked up three times at the DT table before finally stepping down from the bench.

 

[3doglady]

http://www.wftv.com/video/27938803/index.html

This is WFTV's raw video from the break before the state struck the last PJ, I believe. ICA is obviously anxious about something. Wish I could read lips, but I could swear at one point she looks around and says "where is he" and then a little later, "someone find him". I believe this was the short break taken before the lunch break when JB asked for 15 more minutes to be added to the lunch break.

The IS producer said that JB was standing outside the courtroom by himself. The producer asked JB if he was going to lunch alone and JB responded that he was waiting on the DT team. Then CM and the others walked up. The producer said JB was fine, talking and laughing.

 

[FORDANIEL]

I do not understand,why JB becoming ill,would be a matter,that CM would need to discuss with his client,or it could not be announced in court.JMHO

 

[Scamperoo]

I am unsure if this is correct. I have known attorneys to file to withdraw because of the client being unable to continue paying for their services.

http://blogs.orlandosentinel.com/entertainment_tv_tvblog/2010/07/casey-anthony-wesh-explains-why-jose-baez-is-here-to-stay.html


Kealing and Deen pointed to new law passed in reaction to the Anthony case. The law aims to prevent a private attorney from leaving a case when a client becomes indigent.

Deen explained: “If you start out with a private lawyer and you pay that lawyer, and then you go to the court and ask that the state pay your costs, if that lawyer now tries to withdraw, it’s not permitted by statute anymore that the person would get a state-appointed lawyer.”

The law went into effect July 1, meaning that Baez’s window for getting out had closed. Kealing said that Baez had not responded to requests for comment.

 

[21merc7]

I think a new one. Posted at 2:08pm today

Can you give us a link?

TIA

 

[RR0004]

If JB was/is sick - this isn't the same JB who said an hour earlier "well, we better get down to work then". He said this to the judge at the podium! Then he leaves the courtroom and doesn't come back?

Nope - not buying it.

MOO

Mel

So there was nothing different in his behavior? He didn't seem ill?

 

[Elley Mae]

It does not make sense for Baez to be the one to delay this for illness just as Judge Perry is scolding him for the time he is taking with the jury selection.

 

[logicalgirl]

Is this the motion from this morning, or a new one?!!?!?!

This morning with reams of law from HHJP to back up his denied decision. Whatever Ms Fryer used in argument, HHJP countered with a whole batch of US Superior Court decisions.