2011.05.19 Sidebar Thread (Jury Selection Day Ten)

[Eye Wonder]

Eye Wonder - I think you were looking for this lady who was upset. About 12:00 in this video.


http://www.wftv.com/video/27949980/index.html

:tyou:

 

[GetSmart]

So... if she was sentenced to (for example) 25 years.. correct me if I am wrong ..the past 3 yrs in Jail will count as time served....

 

[lowens1975]

Can I say something about how badly CM slaughtered the name of this county without going into time out? I guess I'll go there if I have to...

It's NOT "Pine-Nellis" it's "Pi-nellas"

 

[TigerBalm]

So... if she was sentenced to (for example) 25 years.. correct me if I am wrong ..the past 3 yrs in Jail will count as time served....

Yes, it would be counted as time served.

 

[technicalconfusion]

Again, nurse it wasn't an uncommon request for CM to make. However, before asking for the list CM should have been mindful of how nasty and uncooperative the DT has been to the SAs. You only have to read a bit of the depositions to see how CM made some really personal pot shots at Ashton.

In a normal case professional courtesy would have been given and a list witnesses would have been provided in the order they intend to call them to the stand.

CM is right with that many witnesses it will be hard for them to shuffle through everything, even if it's well organized. Typically you schlep all your notebooks that you will only need that day to Court.

But shouldn't CM have been aware of this process and gotten it started weeks ago? Being that he's seasoned and all?

 

[Joanner]

What is a witness notebook?

 

[Zoe Bogart]

So... if she was sentenced to (for example) 25 years.. correct me if I am wrong ..the past 3 yrs in Jail will count as time served....

Yes, that's normally how it works. That's how it worked in her check fraud (economic) sentencing - one year, time served. Oy vey!

 

[GetSmart]

can i say something about how badly cm slaughtered the name of this county without going into time out? I guess i'll go there if i have to...

It's not "pine-nellis" it's "pi-nellas"

thank you ... Thank you

 

[QueenD]

Defense has mentioned accident, and the lesser charge of manslaughter. Hmmmm....

Also, KC's brain is underdeveloped so she thinks like a - insert age here -.

Hmmm...

Would that be 2-year old.

Her own attorney told her she acted like one.

 

[mitzi]

I did not word my post correctly. I know LKB is NOT really 'working' on the DT now but she seems like she is working undercover for them the way she talks on these shows. She is like a mouthpiece for them. She made my blood boil just a bit just now actually, inferring that the state's case is ALL based upon junk science and nothing more. imoo

She IS a mouthpiece for the defense...the defense knows that they better not DARE to show their faces in the media this close to trial starting, so they are using LKB to say "junk science" for them. When we really get into the forensics, don't worry, the jury won't be thinking junk science...they will be thinking, "Oh my GAWD! She is really guilty."

ETA: It's the defense that has "junk experts."

 

[Zoe Bogart]

What is a witness notebook?

Their notes on all the witnesses, their depos, investigations they made into the characters of the witnesses, that sort of thing. Their files.

 

[Melanie]

Well good morning! This week has just knackered me out, and I woke from a 2 hour nap. Missed everything from 1:00 on (and I've been following this thing pretty darn close). just checked my sugars - 266 (should be 100). NO more comfort food for me - you guys need to put me in an intervention. I should have known - when my sugar is high, I get very very sleepy.

Anyway, I hear we have 2 more jurors. If anyone has the info (seat #, juror#, info) I'd love to update my document. If not, I'm sure I can find it on the net.

DS just brought in his band schedule. Bless his little heart, he has a concert tonight with a call time at 5:15, ending at 8:00. Thank God I made dinner already. Do all teens do this! Arghhh!

Hugs to all of you!

Mel

 

[lib's mom]

Kinda interesting that the juror who cried and talked about duct tape being on Caylee's mouth and nose was given the juror number 3131.

Like a little cosmic backhand for the fact that it took 31 days for someone to make a 911 call for this child.

 

[Truth Seeker]

I am so afraid the defense is going to muddy up the waters with some phoney baloney story they have practiced for years and get her off of 1st degree murder. I bet she doesn't go for LWOP even if convicted. Maybe some sort of neglect charge or something. maybe out with good behavior. Supposedly not many of these jurors know the whole story so they may fall for the defense junk.

Don't be afraid cause it ain't gonna happen. Missing 31 days - found with duct tape over her mouth and wrapped in everything from the Anthony home!!! ICA is going down. jmo

 

[RR0004]

Defense has mentioned accident, and the lesser charge of manslaughter. Hmmmm....

Also, KC's brain is underdeveloped so she thinks like a - insert age here -.

Hmmm...

So her underdeveloped brain is ____ age...and her sexual age is ______?

 

[TigerBalm]

:tyou: for talking about HLN, tuned in to see Judge Alex :blowkiss:

 

[Meemom]

For this reason I simply cannot watch trutv, vinnie, jean c, beth k or any of them! They are soooo pro DT without a question. I do love me some Nancy though! LOL Bombshell tonite!!!!:floorlaugh:

Just had to turn HLN off...:banghead:.....LKB was on, as Vinnie tried to get her to reveal a little DT strategy, she acted like the whole trial is equivaent to a new movie premier and she;s the only one who has access to the spoiler surprise ending.....laughing, ha , ha, JB is playing close to chest, ha, ha, giggle, coy,coy.......and Vinnie playing along....:banghead:

PLEASE MEDIA....can you try to remember this is about an innocent 2 year old that was killed and dumped like trash.....this trial is about her death, not a fecking movie premier...both their attitudes were very unprofessional.....JMO

 

[luvmy4brats]

I'm sitting here looking at the PJ list and I think the state has checkmated the defense and I DON'T think that the defense is going to use their last strike at ALL!

All the jurors questioned today sounded pretty good (I didn't get to listen to the PE teacher's complete questioning though)

HOWEVER, the ONE PJ that the defense REALLY doesn't want is the very last lady (Juror #16/ 3281: info systems granny with yorkie) If I'm understanding correctly, they can only use their strikes against the "main" jury... the first 12. as each PJ is striken, the next available person moves into the 12th seat... If the state strikes 3 PJs, then the DT will be done because she'd be up next. If the DT strikes 1 juror, then the state can turn around and strike 3, getting her on the jury... The ONLY shot the DT has of keeping her off the jury is to strike her as an alternate, which means they can't use their last strike... (and I believe that they cannot "save" that strike to use for alternates, so they lose it) And I'm CERTAIN that she's the first to go when it's time to strike alternates.

I also believe (if I'm understanding correctly) that if they leave a strike "on the table" so to speak, then that hurts their appeals because they didn't use them all.

Am I making sense? It makes sense in my head, but not so sure it makes sense in my fingers...

 

[LyndyLoo]

Yes, that's normally how it works. That's how it worked in her check fraud (economic) sentencing - one year, time served. Oy vey!

Sooooo If she has already used up time served for her Check Fraud..then how can she use that same "Time Served" towards this felony charges?..Isnt that like 2 for one??:maddening::maddening:..NOW that is just not RIGHT!!!:crazy:

 

[JSR]

I saw Mr. George give a hooty laugh as soon as that left JB's mouth. No way that's going to happen. Giving their witnesses in the order that the SA is going to have them testify is almost like handing them a map with the battle plan drawn on it.

BBM.

Kind of but not really. Much like HHJP has said. They would be able to see how many cards the SA is holding but won't know how they intend on using them. The defense still wouldn't know what exhibits the State intends on introducing with each witness. Or what tidbit of information the State plans on extracting from each witness.

The wildcards will be the grandparents. It's up to debate on how the State intends to utilize the A's. The State will be walking a tightrope with them for sure. I'm just not sure how they are going to proceed with them. They are so very hostile and combative witnesses.

Preparing for trial is a lot like playing chess. Even if they had the list of the order of the witnesses they still wouldn't know exactly how the State plans on presenting their case.