2011.05.27 Sidebar Thread

[mrsu]

It would appear that JB may have forgotten the tattoo. "A beautiful life".
What can he say about it? :waitasec:

A - She liked the sexual abuse? Thus, "A beautiful life"? :waitasec:

B - This theory is baloney and I forgot about the tattoo? :waitasec:

I really don't see how he can expect this to fly.

I bet it will be...it was to honor Caylee's "beautiful life" before she drowned and just another way that KC was grieving. Everyone grieves differently.

 

[LolaMoon08]

Caylee died while her life was still beautiful. Remember in her jail letters Casey told Robyn she thought Caylee was in a better place because she wouldn't have to be hurt. :banghead:

That is the funny thing to me. Casey said Caylee was in a better place because she would never have to have her heart broken, but still holds on to the fact that Zanny took Caylee for a few days while she was getting things together to go and move away with Caylee... yet nothing she bought during those days shows that she bought anything for Caylee. She said she was buying all new things for Caylee and herself. :banghead:

I agree. If Casey lived in this alternative reality... she would believe what was going on and it would not change as much as it did. She shows that she knew exactly what she was doing by continuing to change the story. If it were true, she would have never waivered.

 

[goldleaf]

ICA seemed all over the place emotionally today.

 

[kaRN]

I hope that none of the juror's have ever smelled it before. Or even the smell of rotten flesh from wounds...if they are nurses :sick:
I have a feeling if any of them have, they will loose their lunch at the thought of it.

I worry for the student RN but the old timers will be fine. You're supposed to have a full stomach for such tasks actually. I worked in a burn unit 'nuff said.
The RN's will be able to help the other jurors deal with it I hope.

 

[costalpilot]

It is not his duty to follow up on something like that. For all he knows, the car previously DID involve a murder, suicide, anything.......not for him to determine or report.

Now if a body had been visible in the car....yes. Smell, no.

im not saying it is his duty

just that JB is gonna raise the point

and its a good pt.

some will feel that if sb thought it smelled like a dead body he should have done something about it.

 

[AbbieNormal]

I am thinking a car windows have a seal on them and so does the trunk. The backseat in the car has no seal so the smell from the trunk decomp would waft into the inside of the car, making it smell too.

 

[dog.gone.cute]

I don't believe it....Sunny, Beth and Mike B all agree Simon is the most powerful witness yet for the SA..................................YES!!!

:great:

Ahhhh ... but wait until they get to hear Dr. Vass, :great: and Melich .... :great:

:floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[mydailyopinions]

BBM

Long ago we had a patient who had many necrotic (dead flesh) wounds that smelled very very bad. Her family opted to have nothing done as far as medical intervention (she was dying) so for several weeks we kept a pie tin of charcoal under her bed to cut down on the smell.

Just FYI

My brother n law is a paraplegic, he had the most awful bed sore..It was located on his hip and grew from the size of a quarter to larger than a softball in a little under a month. The smell was something unique to me, it was awful, we had to repaint his room, take up the carpet and replace it, buy him a new bed and everything. I even threw away a basket of laundry because we couldn't get the smell out of the clothing.
If human decomposition smells anything like what I was smelling, it is certainly something that is not forgotten and easily noticed.
While visiting a nursing home to see my grandmother before she passed away last month, I recognized that smell in the room next door..I asked the nurse if someone had a bed sore and she said yes that the woman next door has been bed ridden for almost 2 years and had a severe one on her foot.

 

[SallyLu]

Don't think Mr. Baez is going to be able to fluster Simon Birch - he will have his company rules and regulations down to a T, this is going to be really really interesting...I am not watching a camera with ICA's face on it - any reactions from here during this?

Besides all that yanking on her bra straps I mean. I could see when she walked out why she is moving around in her clothes today, that top is not a good fit on her. Too short-waisted and too tight in the sleeves and it wasn't fitting her very well across her back either. Is this the first time we have seen her in black?

I hope JB doesn't try his bully tactics on Simon - or maybe I do hope he tries. It'll backfire and I'll put money on that.

 

[Turnadot]

Following rules and procedures costalpilot - wait for Simon to reel off the company rules... Those towing and storage companies work hand in hand with the police.

Ugh. I hate saying this, but if I were on the jury, the rules explanation would fall flat to me. He knew the smell of human decomp, yet didn't call the police because of procedure...? He didn't even have to call 911 – he could have called the police station and said, 'I have a car here that smells like human decomp. I can't see anything, but I can smell it. The trunk is locked. You might want to send someone out to have a look.'

 

[Soulmagent]

But...don't forget, the body was no longer in the car, I would imagine that would have made it much worse.

The state is saying the body was there for a period of time, My hubby works in a body shop and they have totaled cars that have had bodies in them. He says the smell never goes away. Sometimes the cars sit 6 months before they total them out they stick a biohazard sticker on them and no one goes near.

He has 22 years exp in collision repair.

 

[costalpilot]

ICA seemed all over the place emotionally today.

im sure the IS hosts, if noticing it, will chalk it up to ptsd rather than being on trial for her life.

 

[Wagara]

BBM

Long ago we had a patient who had many necrotic (dead flesh) wounds that smelled very very bad. Her family opted to have nothing done as far as medical intervention (she was dying) so for several weeks we kept a pie tin of charcoal under her bed to cut down on the smell.

Just FYI

I stored a freezer my brother was suppose to have cleaned out for me. He left chicken inside and it was horrible when I opened it. I tried cooking charcoal with no results until I read one snippet online to use active (aquarium) charcoal and it worked. Took several days and probably about 10 lbs of charcoal but it did eventually strip the odor.

 

[2goldfish]

I hope that none of the juror's have ever smelled it before. Or even the smell of rotten flesh from wounds...if they are nurses :sick:
I have a feeling if any of them have, they will loose their lunch at the thought of it.

is decomp similar to wounds? from a previous job I do know wounds, never human decomp though. only curious. the wounds were pretty freaking bad and IMO unmistakable.

 

[YellowSubmarine]

Don't think Mr. Baez is going to be able to fluster Simon Birch - he will have his company rules and regulations down to a T, this is going to be really really interesting...I am not watching a camera with ICA's face on it - any reactions from here during this?

Besides all that yanking on her bra straps I mean. I could see when she walked out why she is moving around in her clothes today, that top is not a good fit on her. Too short-waisted and too tight in the sleeves and it wasn't fitting her very well across her back either. Is this the first time we have seen her in black?

Nope . . . none at all

 

[Turnadot]

I thought he said when he looked in the car he didn't see anything unusual and that's why he just followed company procedure and towed the car.

But he could smell it. The trunk was locked. He sounds like an intelligent man; it's not rocket science, IMO.

 

[BritsKate]

I LOOOVE Simon Birch! I used to work as a dispatcher for a towing company in Wisconsin that processed vehicles for the sheriff and police departments. The things those guys go through - from having weapons pulled on them, to being chased down, to having to witness unimaginable gore of suicides, murders, and traffic accidents - it's a really tough job that gets very little credit. Most folks whose cars are involuntarily towed mistakingly blame the towing company rather than LE who authorises the tow. JMO

I myself will always struggle with the memories of some of the evidence tows I came across and I only saw a dozen or so - I can't imagine living with the images of hundreds.

 

[LolaMoon08]

I worry for the student RN but the old timers will be fine. You're supposed to have a full stomach for such tasks actually. I worked in a burn unit 'nuff said.
The RN's will be able to help the other jurors deal with it I hope.

They're not allowed to discuss the case with each other. The nurse will not be able to help anyone out.

Anyone find it weird that we have become almost used to hearing all this information and we're excited to hear about it because we want the jury to hear about it so badly? That as sickening as it is, it is so important to Caylee? It is part of her story? Sad isn't it?

 

[technicalconfusion]

I worry for the student RN but the old timers will be fine. You're supposed to have a full stomach for such tasks actually. I worked in a burn unit 'nuff said.
The RN's will be able to help the other jurors deal with it I hope.

Why a full stomach, may I ask?

 

[fifteen89]

What are they talking about on IS right now? Who did JP excuse and what made him so mad? Did that happen today and I missed it?