2011.05.31 TRIAL Day Six (Afternoon Session)

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  • #381
JB: did you ever have a situation where you went out to buy food because you thought you were going to meet Jeff?
CA: yes

JB: did you share this with people, co workers
CA: yes
JB:ever occur to you that these people weren't real?
CA: I didn't know they weren't real
 
  • #382
JB is trying to get the whole "Casey's world" thing going on... as opposed to straight lies in order to do that I think he has to show CA was not complicit in (or a willing/knowing part of) those lies

IMO it just shows ICA enjoyed manipulating her mom - especially the fact that he is bringing up that CA bought food to make dinner and ICA cancelled the day of the plans

MOO
 
  • #383
Good grief. Asking all these questions about J Hopkins: the extent and details of ICA's lies are almost unfathomable. That is what I think JB is accomplishing: showing how extensive these lies are.

Question: why does Baez think Cay\sey would lie about a Jeff Hopkins for a couple of years before the "pool accident".
 
  • #384
Isn't it a little late for the insanity defense?
 
  • #385
Cindy: I did not know these are imaginary people.
 
  • #386
I've got it...Cindy believe all these stories, these imaginary people..but she could not believe the truth when ICA told her about the abuse.
If Cindy believed Casey about these people then why did she not believe Casey about the abuse
 
  • #387
who checks their grown childrens friends at these ages!!
 
  • #388
Seems like he is trying to get some sort of mental defense without the benefit of a medical evaluation.
 
  • #389
CA:"Plans with Casey's imaginary friends were ALWAYS cancelled the day of."

I think ICA got a kick out of seeing CA bake cakes, shop for dinners etc and prepare for things that she knew WERE NEVER GOING TO HAPPEN. That's maliciously evil. ICA loved humiliating her mother over and over in these petty ways IMHO.
 
  • #390
I like that Cindy believed the imaginary friends to be true at the time.
 
  • #391
Juliette Lewis, the Actress, best know for "Natural Born Killers"...
 
  • #392
this earlier post from 'Beach is bumped up and lands at random:

ONE MORE THING!

The defense cross-exam is likely coming up soon.

Do me and yourselves a favor:

I am bending over backwards not to issue any timeouts. I want you all to be here to see this trial through. Self-edit and do not post while you are too emotional and angry. Please, please please be careful. Step away from the keyboard for a few seconds if you must. We'll still be here when you calm down.
 
  • #393
he is trying to confuse the jury imhoo

((making them think the lies are truths))

moo

This part may be working because I am confused and I know these imaginary people. (some partially real - middle names changed to protect the innocent :innocent:).

Hopefully, LDB can help clear out the cobwebs. Big job, but maybe she is up for it.
 
  • #394
JB calls her "Cindy"?
disrespectful - as usual
 
  • #395
jb is trying to show how severe the lying was due to ga's abuse. But i think it will backfire - he is just showign what a huge liar kc is and how far she would go with her lies - enough to plan a bbq and have her mom cook for jeff hopkins only to have kc lie and give her an excuse.

The jury will ask themselves if she can lie like this! Why would she tellt he truth about the pool?

Mo

exactly.
 
  • #396
he is trying to confuse the jury imhoo

((making them think the lies are truths))

moo

I think he's trying to establish this as a dysfunctional family.
 
  • #397
Can someone please tell me how this line of questioning about Jeffrey Hopkins is helping ICA's defense?

IMO, I THINK he's trying to establish that it was Casey's usual habit to lie and make up fictional people, thus minimizing the lies she told to family/LE/911 etc. when Caylee goes missing. It's not going to work, but that's what he's doing.
 
  • #398
He's trying to prove the family is sick, evidenced by Cindy's naivete?

All this proves to me is Cindy loved Casey and wanted to believe her. Next!
 
  • #399
Well to me he is making KC look very, very cruel!
 
  • #400
Jose: How long did u wait for Juliette before she Never showed up?

LOL
 
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