2011.06.10 TRIAL Day Fifteen (Afternoon Session)

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  • #1,241
If the judge decides it's better for it not to be used, I'm all for it as I would hate for it to be cause for appeal.

moo
 
  • #1,242
so ask someone that was in or took the picture how old she was when the picture was taken if that is JB's objection. Just ask some one. like CA GA LA TL etc etc
 
  • #1,243
Anybody else saying: Please, please , please, JP let it in!?

Yes.

Though I think the video of Casey WATCHING the video in question should be entered into evidence... even if the video itself isn't.

Just say to the jury "This is video of the defendant looking at her daughter's skull. The same skull which made her sick and hysterical in your presence. This is how she reacted outside your presence."

Wouldn't even need to show the video itself. Oh I wish that was allowed. :banghead:
 
  • #1,244
Waiting......waiting....

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JB: was handed his objection (pest control?! what the...) because he doesn't know how to look them up himeslf
HHJP says: waitill 315.

in fairness to him - thats the whole purpose of having a legal team (paralegal etc)...he should just be focusing on whats going on in the courtroom and others doing the research/printing etc.
 
  • #1,245
If the defense so strongly suggests that that Caylee died by accidental drowning, and can say that George is the one who deposed of Caylee's body, then why the heck are they so afraid of this coming in? Hell, they are going to pin the actual crime of getting rid of a body on George anyways, can't they just say that he put the tape on Caylee?
Fighting this only shows that they know Casey killed this baby.

Let it in, it's for the jury to decide what evidence they weigh!
 
  • #1,246
You know, there's nothing wrong with making an educated approximation of where the tape was, but if the statute is requiring the evidence to be impossible to garner orally, it's hard to see how this can come in. He can testify to it, and make it clear, but JA will need to question carefully. It would be more powerful and certainly easier for the jury to understand visually, but there is an issue of prejudice vs. probative value that is reasonable to consider.

Didn't Mason open the door for this by asking if the tape was all across the nose?
 
  • #1,247
I think that JP will let it in and advise the jury that the cd is only being shown as to how the duct tape could cover Caylees mouth and nose.
 
  • #1,248
IMO- I hope this image stays in her mind for the rest of her life.
 
  • #1,249
I honestly believe the duct tape was either the cause of death or just very important and sensitive to ICA - the moment she put the duct tape on - because she flinches every single time the tape is mentioned or discussed. And she looked PIZZED to the point of being enraged at the animation.
 
  • #1,250
Dr. G. made a comment about the duct tape and it's position, Does anyone remember her exact words?

In her post-mortem report, or do you mean today?
 
  • #1,251
btw - i'm on the fence with this one. While I would love all evidence against ICA to be seen by the jury, I'm not so sure this is necessary...just bring Dr G back for a few more questions.
 
  • #1,252
guys I just do not know about this evidence...it is prejudicial....I mean wow...sigh..i hope if it gets in it doesn't get overturned on appeal.

I don't think HHJP would do anything to jeopardize this case. If he's not sure whether he should allow it or not, I think he will err on the side of caution and say no.

I have faith in him.
 
  • #1,253
Group prayer to allow HHJP the wisdom to make the right decision on allowing this evidence in, without causing any issues in allowance of later appeal based on said evidence.
 
  • #1,254
Someone please correct me if I am mistaken, but isn't this type of computer-generated visual used in court cases all the time to illustrate evidence? Have I been watching too many movies?
 
  • #1,255
I just discovered that a single piece of duct tape can cover both my mouth and nose, and I'm an adult.

I had to try too because of this. One normal width of duct tape covers my nostrils and my closed mouth. I can open my mouth to get the tape off but it would be difficult if the tape was pressed on and then there were more pieces applied.

The jury should be given a roll to check for themselves and then put it in the perspective of a child's nose & mouth and possibly being drugged first.
 
  • #1,256
Mason is almost as good as Jose for the states case. He did a GREAT job with Dr. G convincing the jurys beyond all doubt that Caylee didn't drown 100% of the time acciental drownings are reported to 911
 
  • #1,257
that and the fact he knows DR.G's testimony just put his client away for good!!

Can anyone give me a real brief synopsis of Dr. G's fantastic testimony? Had to go play with the kids and fix some snacks so I missed it! TY!
 
  • #1,258
Isn't this technology used for identifying a Jane/John Doe? If they suspect who the person is they use a pic of the person to match with the skull? Kind of like face recognition technology?

ETA
Oops just saw shezcrafti beat me too it! :biggrin:
 
  • #1,259
anyone have a picture of her watching that video/time lapse? she looked scary mad to me

I was on the fence about what lead to her emotional response yesterday but after seeing her clearly be able to watch her daughters skull photo...with the duct tape on it, and not shed a tear or show any emotion....tells me yesterday's theatrics were a bunch of bull poo.
 
  • #1,260
Oh man. I think HHJP is considering it.

I wish they wouldn't let it in.

I hope they just make him testify without animation.

Animation has been used by both sides many times in all sorts of criminal cases, it isn't at all unusual. I think the Judge will allow it. I do think they should have been able to do some sort of generic presentation of Caylee though, once they had her dimensions, but I can see why they've done it with her photo so that there is no room for believing it's not possible.
 
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