2011.06.13 Sidebar (Trial Day Seventeen)

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just saw on HLN, tonight at 7pm, "Prosecution Blunders"

uuummmmm, ok, LKB

:bricks:

I wish there was an "ignore" function on the television for these shows. Everytime LKB, Geraldo, or Andrea Lyon opens her mouth my t.v. can switch to nails on a chalkboard as that would be more pleasant for me.
 
Well, partly, I am not buying that she loved Caylee all that much; she loved the reflected glory of looking like a good mother. And regardless of most people calling 911, this is Casey Anthony, clearly NOTHING normal about her, which I gathered from the trial alone. So I am just not sure it wouldn't have seemed like a good idea to her to use tape, etc... I don't see her calling 911 for anything unless someone else was with her when Caylee died whom she could put most of the blame on. So I do think she was alone when it happened.

I don't for one second believe the drowning accident theory. Even if true, Casey was not a medical doctor and the conscious decision to not allow her daughter to have the possibility of being revived is a premeditated decision to allow her to die.


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35820985/ns/39322876

Toddler is OK after being pronounced DOA

“There was no question in my mind that he was gone. He was white, his lips were blue. His eyes were rolled back.”
Sara called 911 and started CPR on the lifeless little body. Bronson did not respond. First responders arrived and continued revival efforts. They, too, failed to restore a heartbeat.

When the ambulance arrived at the hospital, Bronson was pronounced DOA — dead on arrival.

Still, he was taken to the ER, where doctors took over resuscitation efforts. After 40 minutes, they finally restored a heartbeat while a ventilator pumped oxygen into Bronson’s lungs.
 
I too want to know about the Home Depot video tape!
 
I don't for one second believe the drowning accident theory. Even if true, Casey was not a medical doctor and the conscious decision to not allow her daughter to have the possibility of being revived is a premeditated decision to allow her to die.


http://today.msnbc.msn.com/id/35820985/ns/39322876

Toddler is OK after being pronounced DOA

I think I would like to print that out and mail it to the inmate.
 
Except isn't Mark Tara's (is that the right name?) ex husband?
CA has said that Caylee had a half brother and I believe that would be Mark's son he had with Tara?

Again, just things I've heard and am confused about. I've not thought about Mark being Caylee's father until I thought about the above.
Remember KC said 'we never put the babies on the phone' or something like that.

The plot thickens as I think Lee was heartbroken by Tara, could he have fathered a child with her? Then Caylee and ________ would be cousins.
hi woe ... Mark did not have sex with ICA. He is not Caylee's dad. Just another co-inki-dink that Tara was his ex-wife and Lee hooked up with her and she may or may not have had an abortion.
do you really think the DT is saying that RK is part of the conspiracy? I'm not getting that from the OS. My take is that they are saying that RK found the body and then had control over the body from Aug - Dec since the OCSO did not properly investigate the scene for months, so therefore the findings/evidence/forensics at the body location are unreliable.
LOL, this is a fantasy in JBs mind. Not true at all. Well, so far it's not. :floorlaugh: I made it up.

I'm not positive, but I think Mark said in his depo that he either had done a DNA test or he agreed to do one.

What I am sure about is that he had knowledge that Casey had withheld Caylee from Cindy in the past. So it appears this was not something new and that the A's may have misrepresented how many days Caylee had been gone from the house in the past.

see above. Yes, Mark knew, as others did, that CA lied to LE and Linda about the number of times Caylee was not sleeping in her own bed(s) at the As.
 
BBM...

I believe she testified under oath here was no fight that night? I could be wrong on that, but I can hear her saying it in my head, LOL!

At the trial, I don't recall CA being asked that question.
She did say that she and KC looked at and downloaded the pictures taken that day of CA's dad at the old folk's home. Cindy stated they were happy.
 
Yes, in Casey's case, I could see it happening. Thinking, I better make this look like she was kidnapped, what do I know about kidnapping, ok, tape the mouth...just saying.


The DT is claiming that ICA had nothing (yep ZERO) part in Caylees death or discarding.

ICA couldn't have placed the duct tape if GA disposed of the body.

To believe that GA disposed of the child, we also have to believe that he put the body in ICAs car for a while (and the DT are claiming there was not a body in the trunk), then popped on some duct tape, and a heart shaped sticker and disposed of Caylee.

So why did GA want to make it look like a kidnapping/murder? How did he know about ICAs Zanny/Universal etc lies before he disposed of the baby?

Nah - GA was the wrong target for the DT. They should have chosen the more obvious (if you believe the abuse claims) and nervously laughing, lying to protect ICA, brother - LA would have made more senses, but still a tough sell.

All IMHO
 
Hit and runs are often not reported.

Unattended deaths are sometimes hidden.

So 100 percent of accidents are not reported.

Not all unreported deaths are murder.

But WHY would the jury even consider hit and runs or unattended deaths at this point? They have been given two scenarios and two only by the opposing sides. So there is no reason to look at other random choices. I think they would only be deliberating the truth of the two versions offered them.
 
But WHY would the jury even consider hit and runs or unattended deaths at this point? They have been given two scenarios and two only by the opposing sides. So there is no reason to look at other random choices. I think they would only be deliberating the truth of the two versions offered them.

What do you mean by "unattended deaths"?
 
We will need rehab Maybe we can get a group rate at some place really beautiful.

Since Dr. Drew has taken an active interest in Caylee's story, I'm thinking of asking him to host a post trial rehab session for those of us who will be going through withdrawal.
With all the bad things that happen in the world everyday, Caylee and her wacky (sorry Caylee) family have grabbed peoples' attention like no other.
 
bobkealing
#CaseyAnthony court papers filed today indicate Anthonys defense wants to call multiple scientists from the Body Farm.

Can they still call witnesses that were not previously listed?
 
I would so love this case to be tied up with video of KC purchasing chemicals to make chloroform from Home Depot.
 
I was a foster parent for a total of 17 years.We took medically fragile babies,for the most part.

It is disgusting what happens to children in this country EVERY SINGLE DAY.

I had a 5 week old with a broken femur.
Several shaken babies with brain damage and torn retinas,one toddler ,who called me momma upon arrival and been molested with hair styling implements.Babies who were left in bed nonstop with bottles so their heads were flat and new teeth rotted.
One who had meningitis,but was not taken to the dr until he was almost dead.Mom was high on crack.Now he is deaf,blind and completely brain damaged and tube fed.
One toddler who had been so deprived of food he would eat til he threw up.I was so ticked off at the special program he was enrolled in,they laughed at him because he was always hiding food. OMG ! He had been starved like an animal.
How many babies that were left home alone, born addicted to drugs or prenatally exposed to alcohol (the very worst,IME)? Lost count.

Yes,it's horrendous to think of Caylee suffering,but it's happening right this very minute,to another child,somewhere in our country.
Bless you MissJames for having such a big heart and caring for these precious children.:blowkiss:
 
Wow, so Caylee's drowning hardly registered as a blip in the radar for either George or Casey :waitasec:

Not only do they not know what time of day it was, they didn't even know what day it was.

I hadn't seen that missing child poster until today on this thread. It raises some questions for me, because it's not the first reference to June 9th.

In one of the 911 calls CA made on July 15, she reported that she hadn't seen her granddaughter since June 9th.

KC also made reference to June 9th, until LA corrected her during one of the jail visitations (which we saw in the video) and then there was that whole cryptic conversation between KC and LA that followed where KC told her brother "I had some time to think about that..." (paraphrasing).

In 2008, Father's Day was Sunday June 15.

June 9, 2008 was a Monday.


I don't understand how those two dates could have been so messed up by not only 1, but 2 people directly involved in this case, especially when it concerns something as crucial as a beloved missing child.

And come to find out - the correct date wasn't even on the missing child poster??!!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16449
 
bobkealing
#CaseyAnthony court papers filed today indicate Anthonys defense wants to call multiple scientists from the Body Farm.

Can they still call witnesses that were not previously listed?

Or can they call "experts" that they have not hired or put under contract?
 
I just got in and turned on the tv and found that court was in recess for the day. Can someone please fill me in really fast on why? I tried to find the trial thread for today and couldn't find it :( TIA :)
 
I hadn't seen that missing child poster until today on this thread. It raises some questions for me, because it's not the first reference to June 9th.

In one of the 911 calls CA made on July 15, she reported that she hadn't seen her granddaughter since June 9th.

KC also made reference to June 9th, until LA corrected her during one of the jail visitations (which we saw in the video) and then there was that whole cryptic conversation between KC and LA that followed where KC told her brother "I had some time to think about that..." (paraphrasing).

In 2008, Father's Day was Sunday June 15.

June 9, 2008 was a Monday.


I don't understand how those two dates could have been so messed up by not only 1, but 2 people directly involved in this case, especially when it concerns something as crucial as a beloved missing child.

And come to find out - the correct date wasn't even on the missing child poster??!!

http://www.websleuths.com/forums/attachment.php?attachmentid=16449

I don't understand this mix-up at all ?!?!
Because on the 911 call Casey very precisely states how many days she has been missing, and counting back it does not bring us back to the 9th June.

Casey Anthony: "My daughter has been missing for the last 31 days."
 
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