2011.08.05 Hearing on Casey's probation

[krkrjx]

The thought that the SA is being vindictive is just making me roar with laughter. Let me see now - was it 13 felony cheque fraud charges she pled guilty to, and was found guilty on seven, the rest adjudicated, with one year of probation and four counts of lying to the LE - sentenced to one year each to run concurrently, and she was actually in jail for three years.

For a total of 11 guilty sentences, she spent a total of three years in jail and did not serve any probation. Without giving any consideration as to her guilt or innocence on the capital murder charges, what on earth could be considered vindictive about a mere three years? Seriously???????

Let's ask the general pop in the closest jail whether or not that time served is vindictive, shall we?

The four years on lying to LE were to run consecutively.

Agree with everything else you have posted. And it goes without saying that state attorneys or judges seeking justice are not being vindictive.

 

[RR0004]

The entire Anthony trial generated way more income for Orange County and Orlando than it cost the taxpayers. The media exposure alone was worth millions to the tourism for the area. Furthermore the reality of the situation is the trial is making Orlando lots of money. Over 300 news outlets are camped out in the downtown area filling high end hotel rooms and eating at expensive restaurants. That doesn't count those who visited downtown to get a sneak peak at the trial action. It's like being the city hosting the Superbowl 75 days in a row.


http://smallbusiness.foxbusiness.com/entrepreneurs/2011/06/24/cashing-in-on-casey-anthony-trial/

Personally I think what they generated in income in the downtown area may have been lost on sales at the parks (though I'm not sure of Kissimmee). I'd like to see the numbers after the season is over.

ETA: 3 years= 2 weeks?

 

[logicalgirl]

Unfortunately he probably will. ICA is different. Laws and rules are changed as needed so to not inconvenience her. Her right to hide outweighs the public's right to know when felons are on the loose.
She should have to face public scorn. She earned it..

ZsaZsa - are you really thinking FKC is going to be able to hide? So she is going to live in another state, get a job, have a life and nobody involved in her life around her is not going to take pictures of her, report where she is, etc.? Do you think this will all end because HHBP orders administrative probation?

This will go on for years.....

 

[logicalgirl]

The four years on lying to LE were to run consecutively.

Agree with everything else you have posted. And it goes without saying that state attorneys or judges seeking justice are not being vindictive.

You are absolutely correct and I have no idea why I wrote that. :maddening: Will see if I can correct it thank you!

Too late - again - thanks very much for pointing out my duh error!

 

[Horace Finklestein]

With the criminal record KC has with the State of Florida, not much doubt in my mind, she will want to stay away as much as possible but,.......it doesn't leave her any less responsible for the astronomical cost(s) she has incurred to the Florida taxpayers (already in a budget crunch and cutting costs everywhere) or to organizations like TES. If she's going to make the money after declaring indigency, she can pay her bills, just like the rest of us and doesn't have to ever step foot in Florida again.

Why is it desirable for her to get out of FL? She has to go somewhere and the idea of pawning her off on another community is not much of a desirable thing imo. It's not fair to the people she will be victimizing next imo.

 

[Searchfortruth]

Thank you for replying with actual facts. I should apologize for simply stating my opinions when facts are sorely needed in this discussion.

Miss James, I always enjoy your posts, you have nothing to apologize for. It would be a pretty boring place if we didn't share our thoughts here. :seeya:

 

[Horace Finklestein]

FG said he did not know Casey was serving probation in jail and that he was unaware of anyone in his office being notified. LDB was sitting right there .The DT could have asked her if she knew. I actually believe she is ethical and would have interjected if she knew ,to set the record straight.

Yet they're still in a budget crunch.

 

[Horace Finklestein]

I suspect the DT realizes Casey is incapable of staying clean and employed for a year. Her only real job skills are lying and stealing. She would make a good hostess at a restaurant as long as no one ticks her off.

Haha true. "Here's your ****ing table."

 

[LambChop]

The entire Anthony trial generated way more income for Orange County and Orlando than it cost the taxpayers. The media exposure alone was worth millions to the tourism for the area. Furthermore the reality of the situation is the trial is making Orlando lots of money. Over 300 news outlets are camped out in the downtown area filling high end hotel rooms and eating at expensive restaurants. That doesn't count those who visited downtown to get a sneak peak at the trial action. It's like being the city hosting the Superbowl 75 days in a row.


http://smallbusiness.foxbusiness.com/entrepreneurs/2011/06/24/cashing-in-on-casey-anthony-trial/

Well we all know it's the land of entertainment (Disney, Universal, etc.) down there, make-believe and I doubt this trial made a dent considering all the restaurants available to them to pick from....hundreds and hundreds in that area. Slight increase in business, yes, but merchants certainly did not a killing on this trial. As for the taxpayers, the bill comes out to about the same regardless of what the downtown restaurants and hotels may have made. jmo

 

[LambChop]

Haha true. "Here's your ****ing table."

You need the Time Out chair.....you are just way toooooooo funny. :floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh::floorlaugh:

 

[rossva]

I believe it was the State, not the Defense that levied the charges against Caseyu Anthony, forcing her to go to trial and spend the thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars to prove her "not guiltyness". As it has been pointed out ad infinitum even if she had told the State the accidental drowning story on the day she was arrested and charged, State wasn't just going to say: "oh, she drowned. You might as well go home now, we'll drop all charges. Our bad."

As a Florida resident and taxpayer, I find the State accountable for all costs incurred. They rushed the case to court, did not look at the entire range of charges they could have and should have made, and made mistake after mistake in the process.

Why do I have the feeling that the good Judge who manages the budgets for these areas could care less how much Orange County and Orlando made in profits? A defendant and her DT just wasted thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars that should have gone to other cases, just because the defendant is a habitual liar and her Defense Lawyer liked the media spotlight.

 

[kimmera]

Why is it desirable for her to get out of FL? She has to go somewhere and the idea of pawning her off on another community is not much of a desirable thing imo. It's not fair to the people she will be victimizing next imo.

ITA, she is Florida's problem unfortunately. But I personally hope she stays in Florida...thinking of Misty C and Ron C.

 

[rossva]

As one of those good people of Florida, one living less than 60 miles from Hope Springs Drive, I couldn't care less where Casey, or any of the Anthony's are.

Since she is a habitual liar, I think the good people of Florida have good reason to want to know where she is, since it is unlikely miracles will again bless her in the future.

 

[Searchfortruth]

I believe it was the State, not the Defense that levied the charges against Caseyu Anthony, forcing her to go to trial and spend the thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars to prove her "not guiltyness". As it has been pointed out ad infinitum even if she had told the State the accidental drowning story on the day she was arrested and charged, State wasn't just going to say: "oh, she drowned. You might as well go home now, we'll drop all charges. Our bad."

As a Florida resident and taxpayer, I find the State accountable for all costs incurred. They rushed the case to court, did not look at the entire range of charges they could have and should have made, and made mistake after mistake in the process.

Well, when most parents report an accidental death (and most of them do report it), there isn't conflicting evidence of murder and a cover up. They don't wait to tell authorities that the accident occurred and how it occurred. They certainly don't wait for three years, while in jail awaiting a murder trial.

 

[margE]

I believe it was the State, not the Defense that levied the charges against Caseyu Anthony, forcing her to go to trial and spend the thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars to prove her "not guiltyness". As it has been pointed out ad infinitum even if she had told the State the accidental drowning story on the day she was arrested and charged, State wasn't just going to say: "oh, she drowned. You might as well go home now, we'll drop all charges. Our bad."

As a Florida resident and taxpayer, I find the State accountable for all costs incurred. They rushed the case to court, did not look at the entire range of charges they could have and should have made, and made mistake after mistake in the process.

With much respect to your post, I however disagree strongly with this. Ms Anthonys lying and actions prompted charges against her. She could have told them from the beginning IF Caylee had drowned,told them where the body was, have an autopsy done and cleared her name ..SIMPLE.. She didn't do that. She waited 3 years to tell them "she drowned". IMO

 

[logicalgirl]

I believe it was the State, not the Defense that levied the charges against Caseyu Anthony, forcing her to go to trial and spend the thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars to prove her "not guiltyness". As it has been pointed out ad infinitum even if she had told the State the accidental drowning story on the day she was arrested and charged, State wasn't just going to say: "oh, she drowned. You might as well go home now, we'll drop all charges. Our bad."

As a Florida resident and taxpayer, I find the State accountable for all costs incurred. They rushed the case to court, did not look at the entire range of charges they could have and should have made, and made mistake after mistake in the process.

RUSHED????? Three years is RUSHING?

So how about if she said it was an accident on the day it actually happened? How many accidental drownings are prosecuted??

The State's case was brilliant - they made no mistakes in their irrefutable evidence, and the only mistake they made was thinking the people on the jury knew that CSI and the legal shows on TV are fairy tales, not real life. In real life, it is intended that the jury use their brains and are able to focus for more than three minutes. Jurors aren't meant to be bystanders but participants in the process.

 

[logicalgirl]

As one of those good people of Florida, one living less than 60 miles from Hope Springs Drive, I couldn't care less where Casey, or any of the Anthony's are.

Excellent! Got a room to rent?

 

[jcamille]

Yep....and to quote Whisperer from a couple days ago: Why does this defense team keep kicking the gift horse in the mouth?

one word...........ARROGANCE!

 

[LambChop]

I believe it was the State, not the Defense that levied the charges against Caseyu Anthony, forcing her to go to trial and spend the thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars to prove her "not guiltyness". As it has been pointed out ad infinitum even if she had told the State the accidental drowning story on the day she was arrested and charged, State wasn't just going to say: "oh, she drowned. You might as well go home now, we'll drop all charges. Our bad."

As a Florida resident and taxpayer, I find the State accountable for all costs incurred. They rushed the case to court, did not look at the entire range of charges they could have and should have made, and made mistake after mistake in the process.

I believe KC owns that responsibility of being arrested and then standing trial. The State can only bring her to trial based on the information they have. If KC lied she bears that responsbility on her own and has to face the consquences of her actions. KC, and KC alone decided to lie and was proven guilty of lying. Facts remain there was a child who died and KC was illegally responsible for the welfare of her child in a court of law. Her lying benefitted her solely in buying enough time to keep the ME from determining exactly how the child died....mission accomplished.

Not sure what you mean about "rushing" the case to court. It took 3 years for KC and that certainly is not a "rushed" case. If KC should benefit in any way monitarilly by the death of her daughter she should have to pay them back for the time LE wasted and all associated costs of the State while looking for a missing child when the child was never missing. It's called "responsibility" a word foreign to Ms. A....but I have a feeling she will learn it's meaning very shortly. jmo

 

[Aedrys]

I believe it was the State, not the Defense that levied the charges against Caseyu Anthony, forcing her to go to trial and spend the thousands and thousands of taxpayer dollars to prove her "not guiltyness". As it has been pointed out ad infinitum even if she had told the State the accidental drowning story on the day she was arrested and charged, State wasn't just going to say: "oh, she drowned. You might as well go home now, we'll drop all charges. Our bad."

As a Florida resident and taxpayer, I find the State accountable for all costs incurred. They rushed the case to court, did not look at the entire range of charges they could have and should have made, and made mistake after mistake in the process.

Okay, let's say she did tell them it was an accident. THEN, she would have had to lead them to the body. THEN, the state STILL would have seen a dead two year old with duct tape over her face, and enough of the body would have been left to do testing to prove that Casey was lying about it being an accident. Ergo, it STILL would have been a capital murder case, except Casey certainly would have been convicted a lot faster (or even accepted a deal) and probably be on death row or at least in jail in some capacity right now.

Let me state, THERE IS NO WAY IF SHE COPPED TO AN ACCIDENT THAT THIS WOULD HAVE JUST GONE AWAY. Just saying it's an accident is NOT enough. The state would have required the body to close the case. And it costs money to do an autopsy, and then bring charges against Casey. The state and LE are not ignorant people that would have let her go, have a nice day, if she said it was an accident. The state and Le's reaction is NORMAL. Seriously? Just let her go without a body because she says it's an accident? Wow. That is NOT how the law works. No one gets to say it was accident with no body and/or no proof of an accident and just go home and live their lives. Wow. I would be terrified of a world where what was acceptable for law enforcement to do. TERRIFIED.

No, the state didn't waste money going after someone that everything that came out of her mouth PROVED to be a lie. It was her defense that delayed, delayed, delayed with ineptness for three years while she sat her on butt in jail for three years. And heck, all she had to do was tell her defense she wanted to make a deal at any time or cop to the accident. SHE NEVER DID THAT. And honestly, even if she DID cop to an accident, the defense would have done their darndest to delay, delay, DELAY again. So still, it would have probably been three years or more of waiting to get to trial.

The only difference, IMO, is that the case wouldn't been have started with Casey's lies, would have nothing to do with Casey's lies had she copped to the accident. So therefore, the state couldn't sue her for the money spent on her case if she got an acquittal in the event she had admitted this was just an accident. It's naive to think state wasted money because they wouldn't just let Casey cop to an accident three years ago, and okay, go on your way, Casey, sorry we inconvenienced you. With no body. No proof of an accident. I don't want to live in a world where THAT is suddenly okay to do in law enforcement. Good freaking GOD.

And three years is not rushing. Good Lord. The state just wanted the darn case to GET INTO COURT in the first place. Anger should be directed at Casey and her defense which made this into a three year fiasco, not the state.