2012.05.17 Doc Dump Thread

[Kentjbkent]

You know it really does look like he fell into some bushes. He sure has a lot of scratches. What the heck are those from?

And are the wounds on TM knuckles (as described in autopsy report) a result of TM attempting to pull George out of those supposed bushes???????

 

[elementary]

There's a picture of GZ in the following article which shows him using a pizza cutter with his left hand.

Does anyone know for sure whether he's left handed or right handed?

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/art...vaged-burglaries-vandalism-just-shooting.html

Ooooooh, very interesting! I was going to argue that perhaps the pic was flipped, but I see the words 'Australia' in the background, and he is, indeed, using his left hand. I guess it might be that he's ambidextrous, or is one of those who uses their dominant hand for some things and not others. For example, I am left-handed but I use scissors with my right hand. Still, you bring up a good question!

 

[JBean]

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[HiHater]

And are the wounds on TM knuckles (as described in autopsy report) a result of TM attempting to pull George out of those supposed bushes???????

There is only ONE wound, iirc

 

[ariesgodofwar]

Adderall (which I am intimately familiar with and have been for as long as it has been in existence) is so seriously an issue for abusers, that Doctors in Florida must now see people with Rx every 3 months! Doctors cannot prescribe it without including their DEA number on the Rx.

That is because it is classified as Schedule II Substance by the DEA. All doctors will have their DEA number on their scripts. They would not be able to write scripts for any schedule II or III medications without them.

It is not that it is an issue for "abusers" who by definition have an "issue" already. It has a "high potential for abuse," but legitimate medical purpose, which is the Federal definition of a Schedule II Substance.

 

[suzihawk]

That's because they didn't order a toxicology report on GZ, only on the victim! So we'll never know how much speed, I mean Adderall - or anything else, George may have been in his system that night.

....From a justice standpoint it's too bad that GZ didn't go to the ER for a CT scan, because the docs would have performed a drug test there and then we would have that piece of the puzzle. Based on my experience with brain injury, I've found his avoidance of the ER mighty suspicious for a man who supposedly had his head beaten into cement, even once, let alone repeatedly.

Maybe that's why he declined going to the hospital 4 times?

 

[Lovelymountains]

Anybody see a grass stain? I don't...

http://globalgrind.com/news/evidenc...merman-sanford-florida-details?gpage=12&#gtop

Nope. I don't either.

 

[beach]

In none of the color pictures does it look like this:

http://globalgrind.com/news/trayvon-martin-evidence-pictures-photos

JMO

Is this the photo that was taken at the scene? The one reportedly taken by the LE officer took with his iPhone?

 

[mikeysmommom]

Photo of GZ from night.

Per abc news: http://abclocal.go.com/ktrk/story?section=news/national_world&id=8666187

WOW his nose sure looks like it is broken and swelling.

 

[Yoda]

The findings from the hoodie and shirt said 'contact shot' did someone else spot the intermediate (?) distance in the docs? Tia

 

[TorisMom003]

There was ONE small wound on Trayvon's left ring finger. There was no ring. There was no DNA found under Trayvon's fingernails other than his own.

 

[jaded cat]

I thought that's where it was reported his "bruising" was, near his ring. But maybe it was the ring finger, sans ring, and I'm mistaken. Apologies if this is bad info!

The only wound on TMs hand was on his left ring FINGER. It was mentioned many, many times yesterday.

 

[Lovelymountains]

BBM Who are "they"? What was TM doing that night that made him a ""? Buying tea and skittles at the corner store?

I will defend any young man that was minding his own business walking back from the store and got shot by an overzealous wanna be cop anyday. Who had the gun and who had the skittles? IMO the only "" that night was GZ

Yes and I will stand against a person like Zimmerman any day of the week.

 

[JBean]

name calling is not allowed in this forum. please edit posts. thank you.

 

[jaded cat]

There was ONE small wound on Trayvon's right ring finger. There was no ring. There was no DNA found under Trayvon's fingernails other than his own.

Which makes me wonder...how was TM slamming GZ's head on the concrete if he has no traces of GZ's DNA under his nails or on his hands?

 

[m00c0w]

Which makes me wonder...how was TM slamming GZ's head on the concrete if he has no traces of GZ's DNA under his nails or on his hands?

Maybe he had short fingernails?

 

[BiancaS]

According to a witness the report states that: One resident told the investigator that he heard a commotion and when he investigated, "he witnessed a black male, wearing a dark colored "hoodie" on top of a white or Hispanic male who was yelling for help. He elaborated by stating that black male was mounted on the white or Hispanic male and throwing punches "MMA (mixed martial arts) style." He stated he yelled out to the two individuals that he was going to call the police. He then heard a "pop." He stated that after hearing the "pop," he observed the person he had previously observed on top of the other person (the black male wearing the hoodie) laid out on the grass.

Wasn't GZ a student of MMA, not TM??

 

[Lovelymountains]

The swelling is greatest on GZ's right side. That's consistent with a left-handed punch to his nose. IMO, the photos clearly show that GZ sustained a beating. And, per the autopsy report, TM did not.

JMO, OMO, and :moo:

I don't think these photos show that Zimmerman sustained a beating. Quite the reverse. Everything looks like a minor injury to me, even the nose. I agree with the poster who said it looks like GZ fell in a bush.

 

[AJ Noiter]

Which makes me wonder...how was TM slamming GZ's head on the concrete if he has no traces of GZ's DNA under his nails or on his hands?

Just like I wouldn't assume that he'd have injuries based on a report of a head being slammed into the ground, why would I assume he had the individual's DNA under his fingernails? You do not have to use the tips of your fingers to do this act.

 

[TorisMom003]

The findings from the hoodie and shirt said 'contact shot' did someone else spot the intermediate (?) distance in the docs? Tia

Yes, it does say intermediate distance in the docs. It is in the autopsy report.

Page 128 in the following link
http://www.scribd.com/doc/93951121/State-v-Zimmerman-Evidence-released-by-prosecutor