2015.08.26 Jimmy Rodgers: Charged with Murder in the Second Degree

[DexterMorgan]

He is on a parole violation hold. So he may be locked up in county jail until he is sentenced for the parole violation. Now they should leave him with other inmates and see if he runs his mouth about the hit. Jmo.

 

[LvsAMystry]

If JR was in the US Marshals Service Witness Security Program, he would not be listed on the BOP Inmate Locator with a Release Date of 02/22/2016.
There would not be a current BOP entry line item for him, and I believe his prior entry as RELEASED (09/24/2014) would also not be listed.

This is what currently shows on BOP Find an inmate:
http://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/
JIMMY RODGERS 36938-044 25 White Male 02/22/2016 NOT IN BOP CUSTODY

Actually I just checked and incarcerated witnesses remain under BOP rather than US Marshal Service, not sure if that would make a difference on the BOP entry. Just strange that they would say he's NOT in BOP custody

 

[KateB]

He is on a parole violation hold. So he may be locked up in county jail until he is sentenced for the parole violation. Now they should leave him with other inmates and see if he runs his mouth about the hit. Jmo.

He was sentenced September 2 to 6 months.
http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/02/missouri-man-accused-in-florida-doctors-death-in-court/

 

[SeesSeas]

Actually I just checked and incarcerated witnesses remain under BOP rather than US Marshal Service, not sure if that would make a difference on the BOP entry. Just strange that they would say he's NOT in BOP custody

Yes, you are correct that “incarcerated witnesses remain under BOP rather than US Marshal Service”.
But, those incarcerated in BOP with ‘witness protection’ are housed in separate BOP facilities.
IIRC there are 7 BOP facilities throughout the US which house the federal inmates under witness protection. The facilities are on the same campus, but separate from, a regular BOP facility. I’d need to research my detail about this from a year ago when I had to really dig to find this information.

The Location of NOT IN BOP CUSTODY typically means the inmate has not yet arrived at their designated facility. Usually this is what it means.

 

[ohreally]

Actually I just checked and incarcerated witnesses remain under BOP rather than US Marshal Service, not sure if that would make a difference on the BOP entry. Just strange that they would say he's NOT in BOP custody

This is my understanding. The US Marshal service is responsible for the transportation of the prisoners. Once they transport them to a prison they are then in the custody of BOP. The BOP is the one that puts the prisoners through intake.

 

[Blondie in Spokane]

I know others saw this, but many of us hadn't.



link: http://www.abc-7.com/story/29893665/arrest-warrant-sought-in-dr-teresa-sievers-murder

Just catching up guys but had to jump in. Thanks Felicity for posting this link...I hadn't seen this video before.....lots of info!

 

[ohreally]

Yes, you are correct that “incarcerated witnesses remain under BOP rather than US Marshal Service”.
But, those incarcerated in BOP with ‘witness protection’ are housed in separate BOP facilities.
IIRC there are 7 BOP facilities throughout the US which house the federal inmates under witness protection. The facilities are on the same campus, but separate from, a regular BOP facility. I’d need to research my detail about this from a year ago when I had to really dig to find this information.

The Location of NOT IN BOP CUSTODY typically means the inmate has not yet arrived at their designated facility. Usually this is what it means.

I am trying to understand this. I appreciate your input, and I am only trying to understand. Are you saying that while he may be in a federal prison he is under the marshal service custody until a final prison has been chosen for him?

 

[SeesSeas]

I am trying to understand this. I appreciate your input, and I am only trying to understand. Are you saying that while he may be in a federal prison he is under the marshal service custody until a final prison has been chosen for him?

Yes, sort of. JR could still be in the processing stage where he hasn't yet arrived at his designated facility [aka prison]. Depends on where he is in that process whether he is housed with BOP or US Marshals.

http://www.bop.gov/inmates/custody_and_care/designations.jsp
The Bureau's classification and designation functions are centralized at the Designation and Sentence Computation Center (DSCC), located at the Grand Prairie Office Complex in Texas.
Upon sentencing in Federal District Court, the Bureau of Prisons has the sole responsibility in determining where an offender will be designated for service of his/her sentence in accordance with Program Statement 5100.08, Inmate Security and Custody Classification manual. Prior to a designation occurring, the DSCC must receive for consideration all sentencing material regarding the offender. These documents are received from the sentencing Court, U.S. Probation Office, and the U.S. Marshals Service and processed.
The Bureau attempts to designate inmates to facilities commensurate with their security and program needs within a 500-mile radius of their release residence. If an inmate is placed at an institution that is more than 500 miles from his/her release residence, generally, it is due to specific security, programming, or population concerns. The same criteria apply when making decisions for both initial designation and re-designation for transfer to a new facility.
Inmates are designated/re-designated to institutions based on:

• the level of security and staff supervision the inmate requires,
• the level of security and staff supervision the institution provides,
• the medical classification care level of the inmate and the care level of the institution,
• the inmate's program needs (e.g., substance abuse treatment, educational/vocational training, individual and/or group counseling, medical/mental health treatment), and
• various administrative factors (e.g., institution bed space capacity; the inmate's release residence; judicial recommendations; separation needs; and security measures needed to ensure protection of victims, witnesses, and the general public).

 

[SeesSeas]

Who knows if the Witness Security Program will apply to anyone in this case, but for anyone interested, here is some information about the Protective Custody Units (PCU) located in BOP facilities in the US, which is where WITSEC inmates are housed:

https://oig.justice.gov/reports/BOP/a0901/final.pdf
THE FEDERAL BUREAU OF PRISONS’
WITNESS SECURITY PROGRAM
U.S. Department of Justice
Office of the Inspector General
Audit Division
Audit Report 09-01
October 2008
Page ii . . . The BOP’s WITSEC inmates are housed in 1 of 7 Protective Custody Units (PCU) located in BOP facilities throughout the country. Although located within BOP institutions housing non-WITSEC inmates, the PCUs are separate facilities, each of which houses only WITSEC inmates.

I found 6 of the 7 PCU’s to be here:
FCI Otisville in New York.
FCI Fairton in New Jersey
FCI Phoenix in Arizona
FCI Sandstone in Minnesota
FCI El Tuna in Texas
FCI Marianna in Florida

 

[DexterMorgan]

He was sentenced September 2 to 6 months.
http://www.winknews.com/2015/09/02/missouri-man-accused-in-florida-doctors-death-in-court/

Well 6 months is usually county time since it's not a long stay. But in his case who knows. I wonder if CWW told him what happened to the missing guy from the 90s and now he may be spilling the beans which could implicate others as well. But Florida will not show him leniency on hearsay about a MO cold case.

So yes. I'm still clueless to his actual whereabouts.

 

[SeesSeas]

Another thought is that BOP’s processing and assessment of JR could include the possibility that Florida has requested that JR be placed in a Florida prison near Lee County. I think someone else mentioned this idea a couple of weeks ago, but not recalling who or when.

 

[SeesSeas]

More details about the complexity of placing federal inmates -
Federal Bureau of Prisons
Inmate Security Designation and Custody Classification
108 pages at this link:
https://www.bop.gov/policy/progstat/5100_008.pdf
1. PURPOSE AND SCOPE. This Program Statement provides policy and procedure regarding the Bureau of Prisons inmate classification system. The classification of inmates is necessary to place each inmate in the most appropriate security level institution that also meets their program needs and is consistent with the Bureau’s mission to protect society.

 

[beach]

I was thinking that, too. He'd already started talking to his GF and she told LE some things, so he might be considered a snitch and therefore a target in prison. Especially if he's in the same one as CWW. I wonder who all or what all CWW has connections to?

He's not being held in the same facility as CWW but re. the BBM among other reasons...

Exactly and who knows what else and how much he told his gf, it could be so much more than what is known publicly. He would know what he told though, and if he knows he's done for why not turn.

There is a reason we can't find him listed anywhere. I believe it is intentional. He is not only charged with a felony but, IMO, a KEY witness. And as SMS has said repeatedly, this investigation is far from over. It is my belief that the people that need to know where he is (namely, LE) know exactly where he is.

Just my opinion. But, the feds can do whatever the hay they need to do, for a while at least.

 

[IQuestion]

Sometime I have to re-read what was said to the press. This is what was said in the press:
'Evidently quite a bit of evidence. He brought it all here and threw it away and told Taylor where it was. I think they found the bloody jumpsuit he wore,' Cathy Gaston, a family member of his girlfriend, said. ""
Okay then, "the bloody jumpsuit HE WORE!" That changes my theory a little....BUT IF THIS IS WHAT THE GF said....then she knew JRR wore the jumpsuit. No where have I read "THEY" wore jumpsuits, or the jumpsuit his accomplice CWW wore....THE LADY WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHO HID IT AND WHO WORE IT! DHaaaannnngggg....how did I miss that the first 20 times I read that article?

 

[beach]

Sometime I have to re-read what was said to the press. This is what was said in the press:
'Evidently quite a bit of evidence. He brought it all here and threw it away and told Taylor where it was. I think they found the bloody jumpsuit he wore,' Cathy Gaston, a family member of his girlfriend, said. ""
Okay then, "the bloody jumpsuit HE WORE!" That changes my theory a little....BUT IF THIS IS WHAT THE GF said....then she knew JRR wore the jumpsuit. No where have I read "THEY" wore jumpsuits, or the jumpsuit his accomplice CWW wore....THE LADY WAS VERY SPECIFIC ABOUT WHO HID IT AND WHO WORE IT! DHaaaannnngggg....how did I miss that the first 20 times I read that article?

I remember her and her statement. Personally, I'm not putting all my faith in what that lady said. We don't know how much she really knows or, more importantly, how she interpreted what she had been told.

We'll be finding out sooner than later who wore that bloody jumpsuit. Love me some FL Sunshine Laws.

 

[FelicityLemon]

If JR was in the US Marshals Service Witness Security Program, he would not be listed on the BOP Inmate Locator with a Release Date of 02/22/2016.
There would not be a current BOP entry line item for him, and I believe his prior entry as RELEASED (09/24/2014) would also not be listed.

This is what currently shows on BOP Find an inmate:
http://www.bop.gov/inmateloc/
JIMMY RODGERS 36938-044 25 White Male 02/22/2016 NOT IN BOP CUSTODY

Maybe Protective Custody rather than Witness Protection.

 

[IQuestion]

'Evidently quite a bit of evidence. He brought it all here and threw it away and told Taylor where it was. I think they found the bloody jumpsuit he wore,' Cathy Gaston, a family member of his girlfriend, said. ""

I remember her and her statement. Personally, I'm not putting all my faith in what that lady said. We don't know how much she really knows or, more importantly, how she interpreted what she had been told.

We'll be finding out sooner than later who wore that bloody jumpsuit. Love me some FL Sunshine Laws.

Yes, it is difficult to interpret the true meaning of a statement...but CG (Don't know if I can use her name from the article) was ABSOLUTELY CORRECT when she said, "quite a bit of evidence" and "the bloody jumpsuit" and identified herself as a family member of gf....
so, I have no reason to doubt the accuracy of what the lady said to the reporter interviewing her IN MISSOURI...as they were helping gf move out of the trailer at the time. (Looking forward to Sunshine Laws...wish we had them here!)

 

[beach]

Maybe Protective Custody rather than Witness Protection.

Agreed. I think Protective Custody is the most likely scenario.

 

[Dmacky]

I wonder why, if any reasoning is behind it, LE arrested JR a day and a half before CWW?

Probably for his own protection. By this time, LE already knows that CWW is very dangerous man.

* I am so far behind, (computer crash) so this may have already been discussed.

 

[SeesSeas]

Per NaplesNews.com 9/30/2015 - Jimmy Rodgers remains in the custody of U.S. Marshals in the St. Louis area.

http://www.naplesnews.com/news/crim...rtis-wayne-wright-to-be-extradited-to-florida
3:25 PM, Sep 30, 2015
A second suspect in the case, 25-year-old Jimmy Rodgers, remains in the custody of U.S. Marshals in the St. Louis area. Rodgers must finish serving a six-month federal prison sentence before he can be transferred to face the charge in Lee County.