2015.08.27 Curtis Wayne Wright: Charged with Murder in the 2nd Degree

[DexterMorgan]

The 3884 was part of one of his phone numbers by the way. Thanks for the heads up, AmazonRain.

-Nin

Good catch on the numbers. But I must say. I seen his MySpace and the Halloween party seemed fun and innocent.

I just don't understand. You are suppose to let the good times roll. And not get in a position where you feel that it is necessary to kill your best friends wife.

So at the moment. I am definitely waiting for sms to state the dang motive for CWW involvement . Lol. Jmo

 

[howonkee]

Lovely comment. And now MS may not be guilty.

Why the last minute Walmart shopping if this was planned?

Why not a Greyhound or Amtrak ticket paid by cash a week earlier since they knew she was leaving the funeral trip by herself.

Good point. And would CWW trust jr with his bloody jumper. Idk. Especially while driving 16 hrs with 2 excons in the car. Plus jr on probation; which would have flagged his name during a traffic stop. Idk.

That last minute Walmart stop tells us that either this wasn't planned by MS or it was planned at the very last minute. Jmo. Thanks

I don't think CWW would trust JR to pull the entire thing off by himself, so he had to go with him to help orchestrate it.

Greyhound and Amtrak take too long and there would be a lot of people who could later identify them.

As far as the drive is concerned, I don't think they would chance JR driving since he wasn't supposed to leave the state. So CWW could have done the driving, but with a copy of MS's driver's license, which he could have obtained easily as was discussed earlier.

They could have purchased raw meat at Walmart to distract the dogs, knowing that they were old dogs and didn't have much fight in them, which MS could have told them or not. Maybe they even put something in the meat to get the dogs to go to sleep temporarily. This could have all been done before TS got home. Then they could attack in the garage, sneaking in as she drove in.

 

[DexterMorgan]

I don't think CWW would trust JR to pull the entire thing off by himself, so he had to go with him to help orchestrate it.

Greyhound and Amtrak take too long and there would be a lot of people who could later identify them.

As far as the drive is concerned, I don't think they would chance JR driving since he wasn't supposed to leave the state. So CWW could have done the driving, but with a copy of MS's driver's license, which he could have obtained easily as was discussed earlier.

They could have purchased raw meat at Walmart to distract the dogs, knowing that they were old dogs and didn't have much fight in them, which MS could have told them or not. Maybe they even put something in the meat to get the dogs to go to sleep temporarily. This could have all been done before TS got home. Then they could attack in the garage, sneaking in as she drove in.

You definitely have your thinking cap on.

Good job.

 

[human]

Driving that far would be a chore for one guy, I feel.

I think JR looked at CWW like a father. I bet sociopathetic CWW encouraged that .

 

[creepingskills]

I don't think CWW would trust JR to pull the entire thing off by himself, so he had to go with him to help orchestrate it.

Greyhound and Amtrak take too long and there would be a lot of people who could later identify them.

As far as the drive is concerned, I don't think they would chance JR driving since he wasn't supposed to leave the state. So CWW could have done the driving, but with a copy of MS's driver's license, which he could have obtained easily as was discussed earlier.

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If JR had a valid driver's license then I don't think there would be any issues, from a traffic stop perspective, that the terms of his probation require him to get permission. If that was true, then there has to be some sort of system where PO's can flag a probationer as 'w permission to travel'. Of course maybe the PO sees the hypothetical speeding ticket and issues a violation because JR did not have permission, but LE pulling him over on the highway won't enforce the terms of the probation. In other words, a traffic stop out of state wouldn't be an immediate problem for JR's probation. MOO.

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

I don't think CWW would trust JR to pull the entire thing off by himself, so he had to go with him to help orchestrate it.

Greyhound and Amtrak take too long and there would be a lot of people who could later identify them.

As far as the drive is concerned, I don't think they would chance JR driving since he wasn't supposed to leave the state. So CWW could have done the driving, but with a copy of MS's driver's license, which he could have obtained easily as was discussed earlier.

They could have purchased raw meat at Walmart to distract the dogs, knowing that they were old dogs and didn't have much fight in them, which MS could have told them or not. Maybe they even put something in the meat to get the dogs to go to sleep temporarily. This could have all been done before TS got home. Then they could attack in the garage, sneaking in as she drove in.

(Honey approaches butcher at the counter) "Can I have a pound of roast beef, rare, & sliced thin with some valiums rolled in too please"


Seriously though.....can you hypothesize on what you think happened--was it just CWW who committed this heinous crime, howonkee? I would really like to hear more of your theories, please.

 

[human]

If JR had a valid driver's license then I don't think there would be any issues, from a traffic stop perspective, that the terms of his probation require him to get permission. If that was true, then there has to be some sort of system where PO's can flag a probationer as 'w permission to travel'. Of course maybe the PO sees the hypothetical speeding ticket and issues a violation because JR did not have permission, but LE pulling him over on the highway won't enforce the terms of the probation. In other words, a traffic stop out of state wouldn't be an immediate problem for JR's probation. MOO.

When LE runs a tab, doesn't the whole criminal history come up?

Did they rent a car or use a CWW car? I seem to remember talk about CWW and his car on FB.

For an IT mastermind, it seems so weird that CWW wouldn't know that Walmart has cameras everywhere.

We know that there must be cameras on the road to the Siever house. I feel they were caught on camera and the dots started being connected.

How did they get to the Siever house? I doubt they parked by the house.

Two guys walking to the house.When? Dark?

Do they have motion detector lights at the house?

Did they have a key to get into the house?

 

[relay]

You definitely have your thinking cap on.

Good job.

What DexterMorgan said! Great post howonkee!

 

[creepingskills]

When LE runs a tab, doesn't the whole criminal history come up?

Did they rent a car or use a CWW car? I seem to remember talk about CWW and his car on FB.

For an IT mastermind, it seems so weird that CWW wouldn't know that Walmart has cameras everywhere.

We know that there must be cameras on the road to the Siever house. I feel they were caught on camera and the dots started being connected.

How did they get to the Siever house? I doubt they parked by the house.

Two guys walking to the house.When? Dark?

Do they have motion detector lights at the house?

Did they have a key to get into the house?

BBM. Yes the criminal history comes up and status as 'supervised release' but not every supervised release needs permission to leave the state. IMO probation terms and whether terms are currently in compliance isn't available unless the LE calls MO.

 

[human]

How hard is it to start a pharmacy?

Could CWW have a pretend pharmacy and have drugs delivered to his pharmacy?

Or does someone come and certify a pharmacy?

Could he order drugs for his pretend pharmacy using TS patients?

 

[howonkee]

BBM. Yes the criminal history comes up and status as 'supervised release' but not every supervised release needs permission to leave the state. IMO probation terms and whether terms are currently in compliance isn't available unless the LE calls MO.

I did not know that. I figured with the automation they have today, the probation status and stipulations would show up when they ran the guy thru the system. However, it's entirely possible that JR and CWW also thought what I thought, and went on the presumption that they didn't want JR to be stopped and looked up so therefore CWW did most, if not all, of the driving. Besides, if CWW was the master planner, he would have wanted JR to not be dead tired when he needed him to swing the hammer.

 

[howonkee]

(Honey approaches butcher at the counter) "Can I have a pound of roast beef, rare, & sliced thin with some valiums rolled in too please"


Seriously though.....can you hypothesize on what you think happened--was it just CWW who committed this heinous crime, howonkee? I would really like to hear more of your theories, please.

In my opinion, I think both JR and CWW participated in the murder and each one had specific roles determined by CWW.

I tend to believe JR did the killing with the hammer, because in addition to him giving himself the nickname of the Hammer on his facebook page, one of TS's neighbors said that one of the crime scene investigators told her that a hammer was used to kill TS. And that was way in the beginning in the first day or two. Nobody had even heard of JR. Plus JR had posted on facebook that meme with the caption to the effect of "She said what the **** are you doing with that hammer?" just a couple weeks prior to the murder. And then, why else would he get $10K for his assistance? Certainly not just for being the driver.

 

[howonkee]

How hard is it to start a pharmacy?

Could CWW have a pretend pharmacy and have drugs delivered to his pharmacy?

Or does someone come and certify a pharmacy?

Could he order drugs for his pretend pharmacy using TS patients?

He could have set up a mail order pharmacy, but it would most likely have required a licensed pharmacist be involved. That's just my opinion, I have no facts on the requirements for a pharmacy license.

 

[Sunkist]

I may be way off base, but I don't think CWW was worried much about evidence or video cameras at WalMart or anything else. I think he believed they were invincible, and that he is charismatic enough to convince any other co-conspirators of the same. This is also why I don't think CWW cared/worried about the things JR posted on FB.

If CWW murdered Ronnie Bolin (and I think he did), he got away with it for 20 years in spite of being the primary suspect and in spite of others talking.

Just my gut feeling, but even now I think CWW feels he is going to get away with TS's murder. He thinks (imo) that he is smarter than everyone else, and believes he can offer enough doubt to get away with murder again.

If CWW killed RB in 1996, it is hard for me to believe he hasn't killed again before TS. Or at least been on the fringes of other murders- accomplice, witness, something. And if that's the case, it is no wonder he feels invincible.


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[beach]

Sunkist, I have tears streaming after reading your post.

If you haven't yet read the 62 pg. doc I posted in Ronnie Bolin's thread, I hope you'll go read it soon. You will certainly get an even much clearer picture of who the real CWW is, what he is capable of...wondering if he has a conscience at all.

That doc is sobering...haunting. So much so that it's 6:20a and I have yet to fall asleep.

 

[Sunkist]

Sunkist, I have tears streaming after reading your post.

If you haven't yet read the 62 pg. doc I posted in Ronnie Bolin's thread, I hope you'll go read it soon. You will certainly get an even much clearer picture of who the real CWW is, what he is capable of...wondering if he has a conscience at all.

That doc is sobering...haunting. So much so that it's 6:20a and I have yet to fall asleep.

I'm about 25 pages into it. Wish I didn't have such a crazy day planned...anxious to get back into it tonight. Thanks so much to you and Kate for your hard work.


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[MsArk]

How hard is it to start a pharmacy?

Could CWW have a pretend pharmacy and have drugs delivered to his pharmacy?

Or does someone come and certify a pharmacy?

Could he order drugs for his pretend pharmacy using TS patients?

I highly doubt it would have been difficult for CWW to obtain some Valium or other sedative. It seems as if he has all KINDS of shady contacts. No need to set up a legit pharmacy or even use TS's cover to obtain that sort of drug.

 

[Webjunkie]

In my opinion, I think both JR and CWW participated in the murder and each one had specific roles determined by CWW.

I tend to believe JR did the killing with the hammer, because in addition to him giving himself the nickname of the Hammer on his facebook page, one of TS's neighbors said that one of the crime scene investigators told her that a hammer was used to kill TS. And that was way in the beginning in the first day or two. Nobody had even heard of JR. Plus JR had posted on facebook that meme with the caption to the effect of "She said what the **** are you doing with that hammer?" just a couple weeks prior to the murder. And then, why else would he get $10K for his assistance? Certainly not just for being the driver.

Is that even possible? Wouldn't that break CSI rule #1? Was it that persons first day on the job? I can't believe it! Maybe said neighbor "knew" instead of was "told". Freudian slip?

 

[ATasteOfHoney]

In my opinion, I think both JR and CWW participated in the murder and each one had specific roles determined by CWW.

I tend to believe JR did the killing with the hammer, because in addition to him giving himself the nickname of the Hammer on his facebook page, one of TS's neighbors said that one of the crime scene investigators told her that a hammer was used to kill TS. And that was way in the beginning in the first day or two. Nobody had even heard of JR. Plus JR had posted on facebook that meme with the caption to the effect of "She said what the **** are you doing with that hammer?" just a couple weeks prior to the murder. And then, why else would he get $10K for his assistance? Certainly not just for being the driver.

Did you notice in the 62 page affidavit on the RB thread (big kudos to mods beach & KateB) that towards the end, a **HAMMER** is mentioned again---allegedly used in the disposal of RB's skull.

Once again, the hammer.

 

[Webjunkie]

Did you notice in the 62 page affidavit on the RB thread (big kudos to mods beach & KateB) that towards the end, a **HAMMER** is mentioned again---allegedly used in the disposal of RB's skull.

Once again, the hammer.

Maybe the favorite weapon theory was adopted by JR because he so admired his "father figure" CWW? In other words, CWW says it's his favorite, so now it becomes a good idea to JR too. It's just that CWW wasn't stupid enough to go around posting it on FB.

This is kind of strange, but, maybe guys do sit around and talk about their favorite weapons?? I actually did hear someone state a favorite weapon to be an icicle while at a summer party. I was not even sure what they were talking about, but it got my attention! I remember feeling alarmed and happened to say something like "WHAT? if anything happens to your wife, I'll remember that!" Guys can be weird sometimes.