2016.01.07 Discovery Docs Batch 3 - Crime Scene Images included

[Bobbywoo]

That's the one NIN, thanks. No schooling supplies as I had hoped. What struck me about this pic was the position of the chairs. As close as the girls seem to be I could picture them pulling their chairs up really close to each other, heads together, giggling and chatting while doing school work. Sadly that is probably completely my imagination.

 

[flgrl017]

Did anyone else notice this? Didn't they have some sort of ownership in the building that her medical practice was in? I rememeber some lengthy discussion when they got evicted about it but I don't know where to find it. Why was she looking for a new one to lease? I wonder where this was found?

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[Paulas88]

I know that Sinner said MS's father died very young. Late 50's IIRC ? He had been a Vet, but had gone back to school to becomes a MD. Unfortunately he died of pancreatic cancer either in last year of med school, or shortly after graduating. I honestly think it is his dad. JMO

* Special thanks to Nin, for posting the pic.

Possibly, but I don't think the bald W/goatee look, that's so popular nowadays was in style back then. IMO, it's CWW.

ETA: Photo of CWW with thick glasses. View attachment 86955

 

[flgrl017]

Was the shredded life insurance letter found at the seiver's home or at cww's or do we know?

 

[ohreally]

I'm having a hard time pulling up pics at this time but I recall seeing a pic of a desk type structure against a wall with 2 chairs pulled up to it. Does that look like a learning area? Hopefully someone can find the pic.

I'm on an iphone6. New phone to me, I've always used androids. How are you iPhone or Apple folks viewing the pics? Any help is appreciated

I saw the picture and also think that is where the girls did thier school work. I also notice that if this was where they did thier learning that it was IMO odd to have the display of swords on the wall above it.

 

[rexxy]

Did anyone else notice this? Didn't they have some sort of ownership in the building that her medical practice was in? I rememeber some lengthy discussion when they got evicted about it but I don't know where to find it. Why was she looking for a new one to lease? I wonder where this was found?

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2015.06.29 Sequence of Details learned from the discovery documents



I know right? I think the only stress MS had was keeping up with his lies.



I think MP was referring to the fact that MS was running TS's practice into the ground and the fact that they had cash flow issues, a lot of debt, etc... Because MP also mentions that TS was trying to get out of her lease.



I suspect that the fights between the couple that multiple neighbors mentioned in their statements and the "stress" MP referred to correspond directly to TS learning that they owed the IRS a large sum of money, the issues with her leased office space and the fact that they had cash flow issues.



TS met MP when she was in med school and he was a resident. He may have mentored her and it sounds like he was privy to the business issues related to her practice.



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BATES 5292



JN: No malpractice lawsuits?



MP: No. I --uh, I -- she would have told me about that. I don't know what with the, uh, office building that she is in, I don't know what is going on. I know we talked about it on several occasions, about, uh, her lease and she was tryin' to get out of it and move to a different location.



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Perhaps he was one of TS's confidants. I thought it was interesting that MP asked his wife to call TS on Sunday. And she had planned on calling TS on Monday. Idk, just made me think that MP knew there was trouble in paradise and that TS might want to talk when MS wasn't around. http://www.websleuths.com/forums/showpost.php?p=12273837


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[SweetCaroline]

I'm not sure if I missed this, or if it hasn't been divulged yet. Sheriff Scott said that CWW was on their radar as early as the day of the funeral. I think that was July 6th? But the CTW didn't come forward until a couple days later. So what was it that put him on their radar originally? I wonder if LE found the photo on the fridge as strange as we do.

 

[4senthia]

As for the syringes, it's possible one of the adults in the home was injecting B-12 or the B-12 formulation called "Lipo". When I need an extra boost because of my schedule, I stop in at the local shot nurse and get one.
TS was in great shape. Maybe she was doing the same.
I don't find syringes in a DR's home very odd.
We know very little about most of this, IMO.
And I would think a lot of the papers on the floors and all around were done by CWW and JR.
jmo

 

[Eileen730]

I think you are talking about this desk and the 2 chairs, Bates# 28855:

We're there any computers in the home?

 

[Matlacha]

#29638 Book on Mark's desk, Love & Respect: The Love She Most Desires, The Respect He Desperately Needs. As the author is identified as a pastor, I doubt he recommends sending tapes of your sexual exploits with other women as a means of gaining respect.

#29694 Box for a Sig P226. Didn't see the gun, just the box, though it could be hidden in the shadows of the underexposed photos. Unlike the other handguns I've seen in the photos, this is a modern, well respected semi-auto that might be chosen for self-defense or issued to LE.

 

[Frigga]

I saw one on a desk in the evidence photos- a Dell IIRC.

 

[mikeinmo]

I'm not sure if I missed this, or if it hasn't been divulged yet. Sheriff Scott said that CWW was on their radar as early as the day of the funeral. I think that was July 6th? But the CTW didn't come forward until a couple days later. So what was it that put him on their radar originally? I wonder if LE found the photo on the fridge as strange as we do.

Well it may have been as simple as listening to conversations at the funeral and wake. If AW was still complaining to random people that she was left home last week to work while CWW took a trip to florida may have triggered a LE response as I am sure they were there both overtly and covertly. As was said before a lot of criminals return to the scene afterwards.

 

[SurfieTX]

I'm not sure if I missed this, or if it hasn't been divulged yet. Sheriff Scott said that CWW was on their radar as early as the day of the funeral. I think that was July 6th? But the CTW didn't come forward until a couple days later. So what was it that put him on their radar originally? I wonder if LE found the photo on the fridge as strange as we do.

That was the morning he rushed over to the office to dump the peripherals in the dumpster. Someone saw it and reported it to LE. I might be mistaken, but I think the shredded life insurance policy was left in the office shredder bin and when they retrieved it from the dumpster, they found it shredded, but relatively intact enough to see what it was. And then, bingo...on the radar.

There's a picture somewhere of the shredder and someone holding the insurance policy. It looks to me like it was in the bunch (of photos) when they went to the dumpster. Maybe NIN can help with that.

 

[Dmacky]

Here it is, addressed to TS:

Thanks again for this picture Nin. It actually helps confirm the Life Insurance motive. Especially since is was the last thing in shredded.

Looks like to me that MS was making sure the LI company received their "payment" for JULY??? Can anyone with the ability to blow up pictures look and see if there is a due date on there? (if it shows) I wonder if that was the ONLY bill that was paid for July?
It likely didn't completely shred because the shredder can was full or paper was stuck in there.

 

[No it's not]

That was the morning he rushed over to the office to dump the peripherals in the dumpster. Someone saw it and reported it to LE. I might be mistaken, but I think the shredded life insurance policy was left in the office shredder bin and when they retrieved it from the dumpster, they found it shredded, but relatively intact enough to see what it was. And then, bingo...on the radar.

There's a picture somewhere of the shredder and someone holding the insurance policy. It looks to me like it was in the bunch (of photos) when they went to the dumpster. Maybe NIN can help with that.

Here we go Surfie:

 

[creepingskills]

The amount of money stashed in drawers here and there around the house puzzles me. Most of it doesn't appear to be extremely large amounts as far as I can tell...a few hundred here, a thousand there, two thousand somewhere else. But why do that? We use cash for our everyday purchases, but it's in our wallets and we go to the bank ATM when we need more. If we put it in drawers we'd forget we had it!

Surely, if this was intended to look like a burglary gone bad, the "burglars" could have found that cash easily. I honestly believe that this is another symptom of the messed up mind of MS. JMO

Part of me wonders if MS was stashing away small amounts of cash in anticipation of divorce? On the other hand, nothing about the state of things in that house seems organized except TS's areas.

As others have pointed out TS's dresser, car, suitcase are neatly kept. The kitchen appears organized. I wonder if there was a kind of 'stand off' when it came to MS's hoarder like disorganized ways-- TS wasn't going to clean up his mess and as a result, lived with it. All MOO - MS passive aggressively enjoyed any discontentment TS suffered. Clearly he is the messy spouse and I bet he spent at least 50% more time at home than TS.

TS lived a structured life, played by the rules, IOW had her *stuff* together. MS, however, appears to live a very a different life with no real (job) structure or schedule and it shows.


This room looks like TS's office space, pretty organized and neat. Immediately to the left of this area is the wall with pictures of TS, TS's mother, and the canvas about mothers. Disturbingly this is the wall along which I think JR was probably hiding while CWW approached TS from behind.

 

[FightTheOstrich]

(b) The parent shall maintain a portfolio of records and materials. The portfolio shall consist of the following:
1. A log of educational activities that is made contemporaneously with the instruction and that designates by title any reading materials used.
2. Samples of any writings, worksheets, workbooks, or creative materials used or developed by the student.
The portfolio shall be preserved by the parent for 2 years and shall be made available for inspection by the district school superintendent, or the district school superintendent’s agent, upon 15 days’ written notice. Nothing in this section shall require the district school superintendent to inspect the portfolio.
(c) The parent shall provide for an annual educational evaluation in which is documented the student’s demonstration of educational progress at a level commensurate with her or his ability. The parent shall select the method of evaluation and shall file a copy of the evaluation annually with the district school superintendent’s office in the county in which the student resides. The annual educational evaluation shall consist of one of the following:
1. A teacher selected by the parent shall evaluate the student’s educational progress upon review of the portfolio and discussion with the student. Such teacher shall hold a valid regular Florida certificate to teach academic subjects at the elementary or secondary level;
2. The student shall take any nationally normed student achievement test administered by a certified teacher;
3. The student shall take a state student assessment test used by the school district and administered by a certified teacher, at a location and under testing conditions approved by the school district;
4. The student shall be evaluated by an individual holding a valid, active license pursuant to the provisions of s. 490.003(7) or (8); or
5. The student shall be evaluated with any other valid measurement tool as mutually agreed upon by the district school superintendent of the district in which the student resides and the student’s parent.
(2) The district school superintendent shall review and accept the results of the annual educational evaluation of the student in a home education program. If the student does not demonstrate educational progress at a level commensurate with her or his ability, the district school superintendent shall notify the parent, in writing, that such progress has not been achieved. The parent shall have 1 year from the date of receipt of the written notification to provide remedial instruction to the student. At the end of the 1-year probationary period, the student shall be reevaluated as specified in paragraph (1)(c). Continuation in a home education program shall be contingent upon the student demonstrating educational progress commensurate with her or his ability at the end of the probationary period.

http://www.leg.state.fl.us/statutes...2.41&URL=1000-1099/1002/Sections/1002.41.html

Maybe we aren't seeing a designated teaching/learning area in the home because it was summer and the girls weren't working on daily lessons. Plus, didn't they employ a tutor? If so,
1. I can't imagine a tutor worth their salt would agree to teach in such a messy environment (although who knows what the home looks like on a regular basis.
2. I bet the tutor has given much insight to LE as to the day to day norms of the family.
3. Wonder if MS has taken over the role of teacher/tutor now? Shudder

A tutor was at the house in December.
http://www.abc-7.com/story/30664036/longtime-friend-claims-curtis-wayne-wrights-innocence

 

[FelicityLemon]

Patience please- random thoughts and observations about all of these photos that I have to write here because no one else gets my obsession with this case...

- I'm both shocked and not at the state of the house. Mom's side of my family were rich and slob pack rats while dad's were poor and meticulously clean. I've also been in a lot of houses that look like this and almost always one partner is super intelligent and in their own world of 'action' and seemed to look right through things like decorating and cleaning. The spouse was either super obsessed with both of these things or a slob. So in that way, I don't see the shape of their house as all that unusual (although his office was truly disgusting).

- while I think of myself as a neat freak as far as dirt and dust and the like, clutter can get the best of me sometimes. After seeing all of these pics, I got up today and made my SO join me in a rabid organizing frenzy lest something happens to me unexpectedly. Although it brought some relief of a sort, I was a little shocked a a few things:
- I counted, no lie, over $300 in bills folded and stuck here and there in plain sight.
- there was a loaded handgun on our sofa side table (no kids). I honestly had not noticed it there before.
- in cleaning out random drawers, I found and threw away 8 expired prescription bottles with my name and 5 with my SO (and 2 for our cats). Again, shocked. My SO is on 2 prescriptions and I'm on 3.
- after seeing pics of her pantry, I see that TS and I took 2 brands of the same supplements (not the one's mentioned here before, or that she did the videos for, but I recognized the labels). I also saw her food and personal,care products were eerily similar. After a diagnosis of 2 severe and serious autoimmune diseases 2 years ago, I delved into reading scientific studies on root causes and treatments. And those supplements have gotten me off of 4 horrific prescription meds so far.

I guess all of this is to say that we all seem to realize what an amazing person TS was, but the peek into her life through these pics invariably brings out thoughts of "I can't believe" or " I could never". I suppose it's natural. But such pics by their nature can never tell the true story of a person..... Everyone I know describes me as the ultimate goody two shoes and morality barometer. But strangers seeing what I describe above might assume differently.

Excellent post, thank you for inspiring me to reign myself in regarding judgments. DH and I also had the discussion last night about what happens when one unexpectedly (and suspiciously) dies. I lie to myself about "organized chaos". Once again, I set about getting our affairs in order, all important info together in a notebook that I started so years ago *sigh* many UFOs on my part (UnFinished Objects/Objectives in the craft world) that I start for organization. Suze Orman trusts, wills, etc. started...

Something I'll stand firm on is a clean, well-lit, organized and calm dedicated space for learning. A space with no distractions (mess), but inspiring and enthusiastic about knowledge and while not all of us can have an entire room, that size house certainly does.

 

[mikeinmo]

Excellent post, thank you for inspiring me to reign myself in regarding judgments. DH and I also had the discussion last night about what happens when one unexpectedly (and suspiciously) dies. I lie to myself about "organized chaos". Once again, I set about getting our affairs in order, all important info together in a notebook that I started so years ago *sigh* many UFOs on my part (UnFinished Objects/Objectives in the craft world) that I start for organization. Suze Orman trusts, wills, etc. started...

Something I'll stand firm on is a clean, well-lit, organized and calm dedicated space for learning. A space with no distractions (mess), but inspiring and enthusiastic about knowledge and while not all of us can have an entire room, that size house certainly does.

As a parent of 4 now a great grand parent raising 2 we can clean scrub organize the house perfectly till the children wake up or come home then chaos begins within 5 minutes and you would never believe it was the same house

 

[debbiegarcia36]

I'm not sure if I missed this, or if it hasn't been divulged yet. Sheriff Scott said that CWW was on their radar as early as the day of the funeral. I think that was July 6th? But the CTW didn't come forward until a couple days later. So what was it that put him on their radar originally? I wonder if LE found the photo on the fridge as strange as we do.

By July 6 LE had downloaded contents of MS phone. Maybe the messaging between MS and CWW raised a flag of suspicion?

Did anyone else notice this? Didn't they have some sort of ownership in the building that her medical practice was in? I rememeber some lengthy discussion when they got evicted about it but I don't know where to find it. Why was she looking for a new one to lease? I wonder where this was found?

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