2016.06.27 Batch 7 ***Some Graphic Content***

[GutInstinct]

Bates #38679 (very top of page) 12/21/2014:

Message is top 2015 - assume it was written by TS since part of it is "my website"

Last line - "Taxes 2013 resolved with IRS by end of May"

TS's goal was to get it resolved by the end of May. MS's goal was to get it resolved with life insurance payouts. <IMO

:thinking:

Bingo TrueCrimeAddict55! Great find! 1+1=2

 

[Xara]

LOL, because then AL wouldn't know how sweet, cute, funny, loving and adoring he is of her sister. uke:

And we know he needs an audience!

Sad that he pays his wife so much lip service ALL for everyone else to witness, but his actions drowned out his words in almost every way in their private life.

I was just wondering if you have noticed that when he sends these
"accidental" texts......does he then immediately send the text to TS after realizing his mistake?

 

[FelicityLemon]

I was just wondering if you have noticed that when he sends these
"accidental" texts......does he then immediately send the text to TS after realizing his mistake?

Only once that I've seen. Add to that, to my knowledge, he has never sent one to a male friend or business associate.

I suspect he deliberately may have sent something wildly inappropriate to his BIL but we don't see that message, we only see Frank's response and it doesn't reference anything specific. Just where my mind was going after all we'd seen MS do up to that point.

 

[FelicityLemon]

I think I'm confused, are these all messages from all phones? I see notes that are obviously MS, but see others that are obviously TS. Has anyone figured anything out about how to decipher which phone they came from? Not that it matters much, I guess, since we pretty much know or totally suspect MS was hacking and spoofing.

messages & notes 2.pdf

Are there clues so we know who is typing which entry?

 

[FelicityLemon]

He spent time at the shooting range with two female psychologists. I'd love to know what they thought about him during the times they spent together. Especially want to know what the what they think NOW.

He obviously fooled so many well-educated and experienced people - at least the women. I'd also love to know what these women's husbands thought about MS.

 

[Xara]

Only once that I've seen. Add to that, to my knowledge, he has never sent one to a male friend or business associate.

I suspect he deliberately may have sent something wildly inappropriate to his BIL but we don't see that message, we only see Frank's response and it doesn't reference anything specific. Just where my mind was going after all we'd seen MS do up to that point.

Thanks for your response. So, pretty much as I thought....these texts are no accident. And isn't it quite a coincidence that it only happens to women? LOL. He is a piece of work.

 

[Zuri]

I was very baffled as to the texts between MS and the team putting together the videos of TS, right up until they left for CT. He is inquiring as to the editing and revisions and scheduling and make up artists. He went to such great lengths to "mask" any involvement with what was to befall Teresa. Unbelievable. IMO

 

[FelicityLemon]

Thanks for your response. So, pretty much as I thought....these texts are no accident. And isn't it quite a coincidence that it only happens to women? LOL. He is a piece of work.

You betcha! I do want you to know though, that I still haven't read everything (most of it, but not all) and I've been known to miss things, so my information is only what I've noted so far. Other people are more accurate than me, hopefully someone else will jump in here.

 

[Zuri]

If I was to look at the texts at face value, I would have thought MS was a very caring person who was a very devoted father and very involved in managing his wife's career. IMO

 

[Paulas88]

If I was to look at the texts at face value, I would have thought MS was a very caring person who was a very devoted father and very involved in managing his wife's career. IMO

In this batch, maybe.

 

[MinnesotaMary]

IMO, MS' tricking the P husband and wife to think that MS and TS were going through a little choppy water and could benefit from some Men Are From Mars sorts of married love/mancave books was all a part of MS' murder plot. MS thought it all out. MS wanted the P couple to think that MS and TS were human 'like everyone else', not perfect people forever in love like Taylor Swift and that 18 year old Kennedy boy are. Oh I meant Calvin Harris. If MS acted like all was too perfect he thought that might seem suspicious.

Because of the posts about MS' filthy desk area, I went back and looked at those photographs to refresh my memory. It so fits. MS wanted $ $ $ $. So of course he just threw all the bills like he did. All MS did was use people, chew everyone around him up for his purposes and spit 'em out. MS had his desk such a slobby pit because not only was MS saying, "I will not pay you ever" but also, "I will not pay you ever S U C K E R ! ! ! ! ! !". MS enjoyed looking at the paper mess, in between accidental s@x texts to grandmas and other ladies and TS's own brother, because it was a nice constant reminder to MS of what a brilliant a schemer he 'is'. "No one can ever catch me", MS truly thought.

All is fallen apart now for MS. His trial will be insane because MS is a complete desperate lunatic and he will continue to tell him his lawyer to do what MS says to do, keep doing things like call his Hit Man to the stand in a little hearing about how his two tots are coping, just to try to weasel an answer to MS' brilliant question, "Did you hammer her head three times?"

Is anyone here going to send pen pal letters to MS once the trial is over? I think the trial will keep MS busy but after it's over MS will get acting like Drew Peterson ( remember his titillating love letters with lines like "What is your shoe size?").

 

[FelicityLemon]

I was very baffled as to the texts between MS and the team putting together the videos of TS, right up until they left for CT. He is inquiring as to the editing and revisions and scheduling and make up artists. He went to such great lengths to "mask" any involvement with what was to befall Teresa. Unbelievable. IMO

I think I noticed a pattern of his texting and timing. It seems there very long periods, months of no texts (that we're privy to) and then he starts it up. End of the year 2014 schmoozing, then in May he starts contacting and communicating again. Almost as though he wants his "niceness" to be fresh in people's minds right before he brutalizes his wife...just in case they get interviewed by LE or the press.
:thinking:

I still think that he began thinking about murdering her back in 2013.

I believe he was using and manipulating the female psychologists in particular as shooting buddies to bolster his lies about himself and I wonder if he had plans at one time to shoot TS himself. Maybe saying it was self-defense or mistaken identity or an "accident the gun went off while I was cleaning it." Who among those who knew him so well would think he would ever in a million years intentionally harm his beloved wife to whom he was so devoted?

He must have thought he had it made if he thought he had fooled those two.

 

[Bobbywoo]

Only once that I've seen. Add to that, to my knowledge, he has never sent one to a male friend or business associate.

I suspect he deliberately may have sent something wildly inappropriate to his BIL but we don't see that message, we only see Frank's response and it doesn't reference anything specific. Just where my mind was going after all we'd seen MS do up to that point.

He "accidentally" sent the complimentary texts to the women and "accidentally" sent the sexually explicit one to the male. Coincidence? I think not. Men are from Mars and women are from Venus after all.

ETA: I use the word complimentary loosely. I find it rather degrading myself. A "you look hot" every once in a while is ok, but how about throwing in a "you are a smart, loving, intelligent woman" every once in a while too????? Idiot

 

[Zuri]

I think I noticed a pattern of his texting and timing. It seems there very long periods, months of no texts (that we're privy to) and then he starts it up. End of the year 2014 schmoozing, then in May he starts contacting and communicating again. Almost as though he wants his "niceness" to be fresh in people's minds right before he brutalizes his wife...just in case they get interviewed by LE or the press.
:thinking:

I still think that he began thinking about murdering her back in 2013.

I believe he was using and manipulating the female psychologists in particular as shooting buddies to bolster his lies about himself and I wonder if he had plans at one time to shoot TS himself. Maybe saying it was self-defense or mistaken identity or an "accident the gun went off while I was cleaning it." Who among those who knew him so well would think he would ever in a million years intentionally harm his beloved wife to whom he was so devoted?

He must have thought he had it made if he thought he had fooled those two.

You make excellent points. I hadn't thought about the psychologists' roles in this and just in case, could testify to his devotion as a dad. I see your point: He was setting this up a long time ago, whether it was for custody due to divorce or something else.

 

[Oregonmama]

^^^
Wow... AmazonRain has said all along it was about the $$$- I wanted to believe otherwise. I wanted to believe there was some genuine and redeeming quality about Mark Sievers- but I'm afraid she may be right.

This murder was all about the money and whoever controls the girls, controls the money.

If his concern was ever for the girls he would not have brainwashed them or turned them against Teresa's family.

It's ALL about the $$, I'm afraid. I'm sorry I ever even doubted it. That man should rot in hell.

So......you think the girls were just part of his plan? Have them and i (mark) gets what he wants.....money!

There are still a lot of missing texts in there, a lot of business ones .....I still think drug selling was done

 

[Deleted member 159541]

I think I'm confused, are these all messages from all phones? I see notes that are obviously MS, but see others that are obviously TS. Has anyone figured anything out about how to decipher which phone they came from? Not that it matters much, I guess, since we pretty much know or totally suspect MS was hacking and spoofing.

messages & notes 2.pdf

Are there clues so we know who is typing which entry?

As I have been reading batch 7, I can clearly tell what was definitively written by Teresa. She has a certain tone and style. The notes are long enough that it strikes me as tablet (Ipad?) type entries. Possible they were "sharing" a tablet. But since I also know for a fact that MS used Teresa's phone and now know of his (possible) manipulation to have texts forwarded to his phone from Teresa's phone - I think there could be manipulation with any type of tablet or laptop. I have to stress that Teresa was not a suspicious person nor was she overly private. I don't think she would intentionally keep too much from MS unless something changed dramatically in the week's surrounding her death. So (a) they could've shared a tablet or (b) MS could've set up systems that copied all activity to his phone. That was his controlling, gas lighting, manipulative, insecure method of operating so it wouldn't surprise me. MS and CWW certainly controlled everything electronic. They were all using apple iphones, too and if you look it up, receiving information from another iphone isn't as hard as you would think - if you control the phones.

Since it is the anniversary of her death, I'd like to point out some wonderful things about Teresa that are supported by notes in Batch 7. She loved animals. She practiced gratitude. She had remorse when she felt she hurt someone. She was generous. She prayed and relied on faith. She loved music. She believed as written in one of her notes the Stevie Wonder lyric that she was going to "keep on trying till I reach the higher ground." She wanted to understand how to better sell "health" to her patients but didn't want to be "cute-sie." She'd prefer to look people in the eye. She also wanted to understand how to better ask people for monetary donations for the charities she cared about. She felt her mother taught her valuable lessons "You can't rob peter to pay paul" and "never leave a dessert unfinished, there is always room." And she also felt as she wrote in one of her notes "A mother's love and support is one of the best ingredients for good health." This is particularly heart wrenching when I think of her baby getting sick after her death. She appreciated cuddle time with her girls or being able to jump in the pool with them. She kept track of gifts to make sure her girls exercised the good old fashioned habit of writing a thank you note. And finally, she was too good to her husband.

She had no idea the monster she was dealing with. In my opinion, he was quick to "love bomb" her from the beginning and continued to do it as needed on and off throughout their marriage. Love bombing is a particular tool of narcissists - this explains things really well. http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/idealize-devalue-discard-the-dizzying-cycle-of-narcissism-0325154

I think MS had this plan in motion as a back up for YEARS but finalized details when he felt the well was going to run dry. Remember my comments before he was ever arrested - MS talked about money incessantly. He was inauthentic from the day I met him and had my dear friend not had two small girls I would have been much more vocal about it. But it doesn't surprise me one bit that he had so many people fooled about the faux-love for his wife. When he was on display, it was there for the world to see.

 

[Paulas88]

As I have been reading batch 7, I can clearly tell what was definitively written by Teresa. She has a certain tone and style. The notes are long enough that it strikes me as tablet (Ipad?) type entries. Possible they were "sharing" a tablet. But since I also know for a fact that MS used Teresa's phone and now know of his (possible) manipulation to have texts forwarded to his phone from Teresa's phone - I think there could be manipulation with any type of tablet or laptop. I have to stress that Teresa was not a suspicious person nor was she overly private. I don't think she would intentionally keep too much from MS unless something changed dramatically in the week's surrounding her death. So (a) they could've shared a tablet or (b) MS could've set up systems that copied all activity to his phone. That was his controlling, gas lighting, manipulative, insecure method of operating so it wouldn't surprise me. MS and CWW certainly controlled everything electronic. They were all using apple iphones, too and if you look it up, receiving information from another iphone isn't as hard as you would think - if you control the phones.

Since it is the anniversary of her death, I'd like to point out some wonderful things about Teresa that are supported by notes in Batch 7. She loved animals. She practiced gratitude. She had remorse when she felt she hurt someone. She was generous. She prayed and relied on faith. She loved music. She believed as written in one of her notes the Stevie Wonder lyric that she was going to "keep on trying till I reach the higher ground." She wanted to understand how to better sell "health" to her patients but didn't want to be "cute-sie." She'd prefer to look people in the eye. She also wanted to understand how to better ask people for monetary donations for the charities she cared about. She felt her mother taught her valuable lessons "You can't rob peter to pay paul" and "never leave a dessert unfinished, there is always room." And she also felt as she wrote in one of her notes "A mother's love and support is one of the best ingredients for good health." This is particularly heart wrenching when I think of her baby getting sick after her death. She appreciated cuddle time with her girls or being able to jump in the pool with them. She kept track of gifts to make sure her girls exercised the good old fashioned habit of writing a thank you note. And finally, she was too good to her husband.

She had no idea the monster she was dealing with. In my opinion, he was quick to "love bomb" her from the beginning and continued to do it as needed on and off throughout their marriage. Love bombing is a particular tool of narcissists - this explains things really well. http://www.goodtherapy.org/blog/idealize-devalue-discard-the-dizzying-cycle-of-narcissism-0325154

I think MS had this plan in motion as a back up for YEARS but finalized details when he felt the well was going to run dry. Remember my comments before he was ever arrested - MS talked about money incessantly. He was inauthentic from the day I met him and had my dear friend not had two small girls I would have been much more vocal about it. But it doesn't surprise me one bit that he had so many people fooled about the faux-love for his wife. When he was on display, it was there for the world to see.

AR, everyone should be so lucky to have a steadfast friend like you. From the beginning you had MS's pegged and your insights have been invaluable and spot on! Thank you!

 

[FelicityLemon]

37952: MS to someone who's sending something to TS' office

 

[Oregonmama]

37952: MS to someone who's sending something to TS' office

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This! ^^^^^^

There is more like that. I'm still not ruling out the drug part.........

 

[kaen]

i trust that I will get the gist of the communications from all of you. Reading anymore MS bs is not in my scope of doing right now. I am so aware of the manipulation and cruelty that this man has done. I am grateful that he will be held accountable. I think of all murder victims tonight because they all deserve justice. Teresa will have hers---I am so aware that it was a senseless death.