5801 Eagle Drive for sale

  • #61
Maybe everybody else already knows this and I'm just a dork, but have you noticed that the link to the former Routier home is on the JFD website?
 
  • #62
No, I didn't know that and for some reason it strikes me as very odd that they would feel a need to include it on their site. But then, I've found ALL of their actions odd from the night of the murders, clear on through to the present day!
 
  • #63
beesy said:
Should I chime in here? We've got a 2600 sq ft. house that we paid $94,000 for. And no it's not falling down. It could use a decorater, but the houses in this part of VA are more laid back than what I've seen in the Dallas area. And no, it's not in a bad neighborhood and it's not a poor little mill town. It's a well off paper mill town. Even the nicest homes don't have all those BIG drapes and fancy doo dads on the walls, etc. Our house has a big front porch, with a swing, a breakfast nook, kitchen(duh), formal dining room, living room, large foyer, family room, 3 full baths and 3 large bedrooms on about 1/2 acre for less than $95,000! And I love it because it was built about 1920 by one of the original owners of the paper mill. Lots of history, and no creepy feelings.

Sounds like the small Virginia paper mill town I grew up in. Beautiful.
 
  • #64
Would anyone be willing to tell me the names of some of the papermill towns in Virginia? I grew up in Virginia, and sometimes think of moving back there... but don't really know any areas to investigate and check on real estate prices. I do know that I could never afford to go back to the area I grew up in... Virginia Beach. The prices there are through the roof!
 
  • #65
Marine Mom said:
Sounds like the small Virginia paper mill town I grew up in. Beautiful.
Umm....which VA paper mill town? Wouldn't that be wild?
 
  • #66
beesy said:
Umm....which VA paper mill town? Wouldn't that be wild?
Covington.
 
  • #67
HeartofTexas said:
Would anyone be willing to tell me the names of some of the papermill towns in Virginia? I grew up in Virginia, and sometimes think of moving back there... but don't really know any areas to investigate and check on real estate prices. I do know that I could never afford to go back to the area I grew up in... Virginia Beach. The prices there are through the roof!
Well, I live in Franklin, which is about 50-60 miles west of Va Beach/Norfolk. The paper mill was called Union Camp or Camp's by the locals. It was bought out by International Paper about 10 yrs ago.
 
  • #68
Marine Mom said:
Covington.
oh well, darn! I was just about to get all freaked out about meeting a fellow Franklinite online. LOL..where is Covington and which mill?
 
  • #69
Beesy, I was bracing myself but it didn't happen. :)

HeartofTexas, Mead/Westvaco is the heart and soal of Covington. If it ever went under, the town would shrivel up. We say there's 10,000 people, but that's stretching it. Huge, lovely old homes with high ceilings, humongus rooms, oversized wrap around porches...millionaires and average folks live in the same neighborhoods. Very few people "put on airs." And the view!
 
  • #70
beesy said:
oh well, darn! I was just about to get all freaked out about meeting a fellow Franklinite online. LOL..where is Covington and which mill?

Covington is up in the mountains about an hour from Roanoke. Nice roads, pretty scenery.

Before the Mead Westvaco merge, it was just Westvaco. A big old stinky plant that took up over half the town. Daddy worked there until he retired. But the plant smelled good on paydays!
 
  • #71
Wow, Beesy, that's an incredible location! That would be so perfect for me, too. Close enough to the beach to be able to drive there and occasionally enjoy it, but not so close that hurricanes would destroy too much (I hope!) and reasonable prices on homes.

MarineMom, I did a search of papermill towns in Va. yesterday and Covington was the one that came up... so I visited several sites for your town. Lovely place. I want so much to return to my Virginia roots.
 
  • #72
HeartofTexas said:
Wow, Beesy, that's an incredible location! That would be so perfect for me, too. Close enough to the beach to be able to drive there and occasionally enjoy it, but not so close that hurricanes would destroy too much (I hope!) and reasonable prices on homes
Close to the Outer Banks too. Richmond isn't very far away either or DC. I left town for about ten years to get my BA and MS, then came back with a husband in tow. We'd been looking and looking for a house all over town. This one was for sale by owner and we eventually saw it. I walked in the back door and knew I wanted it. I managed to play it cool though. LOL:cool:
We have had trouble with 2 hurricanes in the past few years. Floyd in '99 flooded our old downtown and Isabel in '03 did some damage, but most of the hurricanes lose their strength when they pass over the Outer Banks. Good news is that we bounced back quickly. There were no deaths or homeless either.

http://www.ci.franklin.va.us/defaultnext.htm
 
  • #73
Marine Mom said:
Beesy, I was bracing myself but it didn't happen. :)
LOL you sound relieved!
Mead/Westvaco is the heart and soal of Covington. If it ever went under, the town would shrivel up. We say there's 10,000 people, but that's stretching it. Huge, lovely old homes with high ceilings, humongus rooms, oversized wrap around porches...millionaires and average folks live in the same neighborhoods. Very few people "put on airs." And the view!
Yep, yep, sounds just like Franklin. UC is the bloodlife of our town. Most of us still have trouble calling it IP. Our next door neighbor's house is HUGE, but then the one on the other side is under 1,000 sq ft. We don't have that wonderful mountain view, but we do have the beaches, some within an hour's drive. We have about 8,000 people here. Before the govt. made the mill clean itself up, you could only hang laundry on certain days, unless you wanted black soot on your clean clothes. We can't smell it much anymore, only on days when the clouds are low pushing the smell towards us.
Here's the link: http://www.ci.franklin.va.us/defaultnext.htm
 
  • #74
Silly Beesy. I was bracing myself to be excited. Really.

I clicked your link. The Cemetary Rules and Regulations are typical of what is important to small towns. On the home page!

It looks just like Main Street in my home town. One of our websites boasts the fine funeral homes in the area complete with photos.
 
  • #75
Looking at the pictures of this house made me so sad. Two little boys used to run around that yard and up and down the stairs there before they were brutally murdered. It's just so sad. I could never live in a house where something like that happened. Even is someone had never heard of the Routier case, surely they would find out before they bought the house because of the noteriety of the case.
 
  • #76
NewMom2003 said:
I could never live in a house where something like that happened.

Me neither. No way. I'd never sleep. Awful, just awful. :(
 
  • #77
Jules said:
Me neither. No way. I'd never sleep. Awful, just awful. :(


After I received all of the books and especially MTJD, I was pretty freaked out about this whole thing. I never sleep good anyway, but I kept waking up at the same time every night. Turns out to be very close to the time of the murders. I had to take a step back from talking about this case and think about other things. I don't even like looking at that house. I'd never go into it, much less buy the damn thing. I think it should just be torn down.
 
  • #78
NewMom2003 said:
Looking at the pictures of this house made me so sad. Two little boys used to run around that yard and up and down the stairs there before they were brutally murdered. It's just so sad. I could never live in a house where something like that happened. Even is someone had never heard of the Routier case, surely they would find out before they bought the house because of the noteriety of the case.
Nope--- Not me either..as silly as it sounds, I even feel sorry for the house itself-- can you imagine how sad "it" must be too? IT also knows exactly what happened that night.....

Jeana said some neighbors had some things they bought or were given from the house--- again.....wouldnt be in my house :(
 
  • #79
Jeana (DP) said:
After I received all of the books and especially MTJD, I was pretty freaked out about this whole thing. I never sleep good anyway, but I kept waking up at the same time every night. Turns out to be very close to the time of the murders. I had to take a step back from talking about this case and think about other things. I don't even like looking at that house. I'd never go into it, much less buy the damn thing. I think it should just be torn down.

Jeana, I'm the same way. I took a criminal psych course many years ago and studied Manson throughout the course. I had read several things about he and his followers doing "creepy crawls" where they would enter someone's home - silently - rearrange things and leave. People would wake up the next morning and their furniture would be turned the other way, etc. It creeped me out so bad that I was afraid to sleep. Any noise and I bolted out of bed. I had to take a step back too and focus on other things. To this day I'm a light sleeper though and will jump at a noise.
 
  • #80
Jules said:
Jeana, I'm the same way. I took a criminal psych course many years ago and studied Manson throughout the course. I had read several things about he and his followers doing "creepy crawls" where they would enter someone's home - silently - rearrange things and leave. People would wake up the next morning and their furniture would be turned the other way, etc. It creeped me out so bad that I was afraid to sleep. Any noise and I bolted out of bed. I had to take a step back too and focus on other things. To this day I'm a light sleeper though and will jump at a noise.


Its strange how it gets into one's subconscience, isn't it? I would wake up at the same time as the murders and HAVE to go in and check on my kids, and then I was up for the rest of the day. No going back to sleep.
I wonder how Darlie sleeps. :furious:
 

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